GoBigBlue Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Eighteen??! On a little ol' 3A team??! WOW!! That's amazing!! I knew the two that went on to play pro ball, though.... :huh: It's been a few years but someone went to UT-Arlington when they had football and then transferred to Kansas State. I know becasue the KSU coach used him to try and recruit me. I remember telling the KSU guy, "That's great and everything but how long has it been since you won?" Thinking back now it might have been Gene Rowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLEMAN Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Nope we cant argue with FACKS.....because we dont know what those are....lol....So...you sir...meet the qualifications for an IDIOT Sorry about the spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLEMAN Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 DF holds some national records it all goes back to the 83 team. Don't think they could beat a great 5A team that year but they sure as heck could have beat most. As far as the gu that called me an idiot i got you. Lets compair brain pans and education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyforchrist Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 DF holds some national records it all goes back to the 83 team. Don't think they could beat a great 5A team that year but they sure as heck could have beat most. As far as the gu that called me an idiot i got you. Lets compair brain pans and education I have a question for the guy that called you that. Name any team in Texas high school football from 1a to 5a that could of held every team Daingerfield played in 1983 to 12 inches every time the ball was snapped. The Daingerfield offense was average or good, but the D was the best that ever played at the high school level. If memory serves me right, only one team crossed the fifty yard line. Here is one for you to think about, divide 560 feet by 16 games = 35 feet per game is what they allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLEMAN Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I have a question for the guy that called you that. Name any team in Texas high school football from 1a to 5a that could of held every team Daingerfield played in 1983 to 12 inches every time the ball was snapped. The Daingerfield offense was average or good, but the D was the best that ever played at the high school level. If memory serves me right, only one team crossed the fifty yard line. Here is one for you to think about, divide 560 feet by 16 games = 35 feet per game is what they allowed. You the man. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Price of gas in 1983 $1.24. Price of Gas today $3.84 with additives . The gas has gotten better, but increased in cost. Teams have gotten faster, smarter, stronger. The debate in my eyes is which team was the greatest to ever play, while playing teams that were in the same classification. Name one team, other than Big Sandy that dominated their classification more than 83 Tigers. People we are talking about a team that gave up an average of feet per play, not yards. The question was which team was the most dominant HS team ever. They were the most dominate defense ever in HS football. People always try to compare them to bigger classifications or different years. You can only compare what a team has done on any given year against the teams that they have played. Get's it............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Aside from everyone giving their opinion on the greatest team ever maybe we should take up a collection to sponsor a doctoral candidate that is working on their thesis to statistically evaluate the referenced teams to see which is the best of all time! They could take into consideration advances/declines in the game, the growth and speed increase of players, talent per capita, strength of schedule, margin of victory, statistical measurements per game, coaching decisions, field and weather conditions, etc. This would provide the ability to extrapolate the variances between 1A through 5A thereby providing a somewhat indicative comparison. A few variables would have to be included which could be: desire to win, expecting to win, knowing you will win, and the fear factor that the other teams had facing you. Since I do not have any extra money lying around and I do not have the time to do the research myself, I will continue with my opinion that the '83 Tigers are the best. gets it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 The thread title didn't say "GREATEST" it said most "DOMINATE". That title alone doesn't invite comparisons between classes or years, it asks simply, which team had the most dominate year against the competition they played. That is a simple Answer! Daingerfield '83. No one else can even come close! Gets it........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 The most dominant 2A team of all time, yes. The most dominate Texas High School football team of all time? HELL no. 88' Carter 83' Judson 92' Judson 08' LT 03'Katy 95' La Marque 93' Lewisville 00' Midland Lee Dude I probably could name 50 teams that would've beat D-Field's 83' team, heck 100 if I felt like it. I'm not saying they weren't dominant, because they were......in their own classification. Gilmer 04' would've tortured 83 D-Field. Clueless............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Clueless............ Nope, that would be you and anyone else who thinks 83' D-Field would whoop anyone in the state, when they wouldn't even beat 11' Tenaha. Some of you small school fans in EAST TEXAS can't except the fact that you're the best in your respective class. What's wrong with that? 2006 Cedar Hill is the best football team I've ever seen. You're crazy to think otherswise unless you bring some good names to the table, like 03' North Shore. Best defense I've ever seen and a bunch of others would agree. Shut down numerous offenses and did it against stiff competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachc45 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Nope, that would be you and anyone else who thinks 83' D-Field would whoop anyone in the state, when they wouldn't even beat 11' Tenaha. Some of you small school fans in EAST TEXAS can't except the fact that you're the best in your respective class. What's wrong with that? 2006 Cedar Hill is the best football team I've ever seen. You're crazy to think otherswise unless you bring some good names to the table, like 03' North Shore. Best defense I've ever seen and a bunch of others would agree. Shut down numerous offenses and did it against stiff competition. And not once did you see the Daingerfield team play! I did, and all the ones you list also. So do me and everyone else a favor and don't discuss things you know nothing about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclejohn Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Nope, that would be you and anyone else who thinks 83' D-Field would whoop anyone in the state, when they wouldn't even beat 11' Tenaha. Some of you small school fans in EAST TEXAS can't except the fact that you're the best in your respective class. What's wrong with that? 2006 Cedar Hill is the best football team I've ever seen. You're crazy to think otherswise unless you bring some good names to the table, like 03' North Shore. Best defense I've ever seen and a bunch of others would agree. Shut down numerous offenses and did it against stiff competition. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Nope, that would be you and anyone else who thinks 83' D-Field would whoop anyone in the state, when they wouldn't even beat 11' Tenaha. Some of you small school fans in EAST TEXAS can't except the fact that you're the best in your respective class. What's wrong with that? 2006 Cedar Hill is the best football team I've ever seen. You're crazy to think otherswise unless you bring some good names to the table, like 03' North Shore. Best defense I've ever seen and a bunch of others would agree. Shut down numerous offenses and did it against stiff competition. Most dominate HS football team ever is the topic Wolfie, nothing more nothing less........ 1. 1983 Daingerfield Tigers 2. 1973-75 Big Sandy Wildcates 3 1980 Pittsburg Pirates You having trouble grasping the difference between Most Dominant and Best Ever is no concern of mine.............none of the teams you've listed in this thread dominated like the three listed above "and a bunch of others would agree" (I guess if you put that in, it gives it credibility).......and it's not even close!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 And not once did you see the Daingerfield team play! I did, and all the ones you list also. So do me and everyone else a favor and don't discuss things you know nothing about! +1...........just to cancel out unclejohn :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Just to lighten it up a bit.............:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 And not once did you see the Daingerfield team play! I did, and all the ones you list also. So do me and everyone else a favor and don't discuss things you know nothing about! So I don't know what I'm talking about because my fact isn't the same as your opinion? Oh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilEagle Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Nope, that would be you and anyone else who thinks 83' D-Field would whoop anyone in the state, when they wouldn't even beat 11' Tenaha. Some of you small school fans in EAST TEXAS can't except the fact that you're the best in your respective class. What's wrong with that? 2006 Cedar Hill is the best football team I've ever seen. You're crazy to think otherswise unless you bring some good names to the table, like 03' North Shore. Best defense I've ever seen and a bunch of others would agree. Shut down numerous offenses and did it against stiff competition. Read this article and maybe just maybe you will get it. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/124478-the-top-ten-fighters-of-all-time Great article describing the top 10 boxers of all time and why. He has Sugar Ray Robinson ranked above Muhammad Ali as the greatest of all time. I really do not believe that anyone would bet on Robinson to beat Muhammad Ali. Again this is why football has classifications and boxing has different weights. Surely you can see everyone's argument. If not, then there really is no hope for you. Could other teams have beaten the 83 Tiger, most likely yes. But there are not many, if any, that can say they dominated there own classification like they did. Those are the facts! 2011 Tenaha beating the 83 Tigers. Come on, you are starting to make yourself look more foolish by the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32dive Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 '73 Big Sandy. Final answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Read this article and maybe just maybe you will get it. http://bleacherrepor...ers-of-all-time Great article describing the top 10 boxers of all time and why. He has Sugar Ray Robinson ranked above Muhammad Ali as the greatest of all time. I really do not believe that anyone would bet on Robinson to beat Muhammad Ali. Again this is why football has classifications and boxing has different weights. Surely you can see everyone's argument. If not, then there really is no hope for you. Could other teams have beaten the 83 Tiger, most likely yes. But there are not many, if any, that can say they dominated there own classification like they did. Those are the facts! 2011 Tenaha beating the 83 Tigers. Come on, you are starting to make yourself look more foolish by the post. Preach that to someone else. Apparently, classification don't mean squat around East Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose53 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 no This is the best defense ever, no doubt ! AND they would beat anybody out there. The offense was not the best, but then again they did not have to be. Recent teams would not be able to handle the brutal type of football these people played. This old coach knows what he is talking about. Once in a lifetime you had to see with your on eyes and the stats are all that is left. They three backs that averged 10 yrds acarry.they did the same thing next year.they even made one of those running backs a line backer.the tight end was 6ft 4 and i saw him run away from a group of defence backs.he also pun ted avg ine the 40rties with a hang time of 4 sec.this was the first time that any had a weight room and alexander used it .they could lay with anybody.there was not a team out there that had any speed or strenghrto matich up.i forget how many ia class people was on that team.but for a 3a they sure had a lot.any time you shut out every playoff you play that is saying a lot.esprcilly in texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachc45 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Nope, that would be you and anyone else who thinks 83' D-Field would whoop anyone in the state, when they wouldn't even beat 11' Tenaha. Some of you small school fans in EAST TEXAS can't except the fact that you're the best in your respective class. What's wrong with that? 2006 Cedar Hill is the best football team I've ever seen. You're crazy to think otherswise unless you bring some good names to the table, like 03' North Shore. Best defense I've ever seen and a bunch of others would agree. Shut down numerous offenses and did it against stiff competition. Show me one FACT? All I see is opinion. And ignorance! If you truly think '11 Teneha could beat '83 Daingerfield then you are bsolutely the dumbest Human on earth! (My daddy always said it was better to have people think your are ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!) I will agree that my statements are indeed opinion, but at least they are informed opinions, formed with my own 2 eyes! I have never said that Daingerfield would beat all those great teams or that they are the best of all time....just that they are the most dominate of all-time! Big difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclejohn Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Show me one FACT? All I see is opinion. And ignorance! If you truly think '11 Teneha could put beat ;83 Daingerfield then you are bsolutely the dumbest Human on earth! (My daddy always said it was better to have people think your are ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!) I will agree that my statements are indeed opinion, but at least they are informed opinions, formed with my own 2 eyes! I have never said that Daingerfield would beat all those great teams or that they are the best of all time....just that they are the most dominate of all-time! Big difference! The most dominate in 3A. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachc45 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 The most dominate in 3A. Yes. Most Dominate of any classification.....Name any team in any classification to do what they did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilEagle Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Preach that to someone else. Apparently, classification don't mean squat around East Texas. Classification does mean squat. Almost everyone that you argue with agrees that a 3A could not beat a 5A or a 2A could not beat a 4A. But up or down one classification, then that is a different story. Some 2A schools could and have won in 3A, same with other classifications. Look at Longview. Does not matter if they are in 4A or 5A they have won many games and have always made it far in the playoffs. So I guess since Sugar Ray Robinson was not a heavy weight, he should not even be considered one of the greatest ever. Give a little respect to the smaller schools, and they just might give you and the Lobos a little respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Most Dominate of any classification.....Name any team in any classification to do what they did? It's #### near impossible for a program to achieve the same thing in 4A or 5A, a fool would think otherwise. There's a reason why it hasn't been done. Competition is way more stiff. It has absolutely nothing to do with how "talented" the 83' D-Field team was. Therefore, the 1983 Daingerfield Tigers are the most dominant team of their own classification. And I find it funny that you still follow me around this board. Clearly I don't respect you, so why do you continue quoting me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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