FearTheSpear78 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Go Carlisle...let's make that repeat to state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStackMack Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 any info on location and time yet?? wonder if they will go back to UT Tyler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Sfa- 1 game Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsbacker Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 What happened that both Bakers were ejected from a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfacujackcat Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 All three people that were ejected in the series were Bakers and all three were ejected by the same umpire. Doesn't make it right, but it seemed that umpire had something out for that family. Â The WS coach came out and argued just about every cal that was made. I bet he made 6-8 trips to the field to argue calls in the Saturday game, including several to the home plate umpire. Was he ejected? No. Explain that! Â Carlisle had three people ejected, a fan in game 1 and a coach and player in game two. Doesn't matter now. All that matters is that they've advanced to the next round and they as players/coaches and we as fans can turn our attention to the next round. Â What happened that both Bakers were ejected from a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberhammer Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 All three people that were ejected in the series were Bakers and all three were ejected by the same umpire. Doesn't make it right, but it seemed that umpire had something out for that family. Â The WS coach came out and argued just about every cal that was made. I bet he made 6-8 trips to the field to argue calls in the Saturday game, including several to the home plate umpire. Was he ejected? No. Explain that! Â Â Â Doesn't matter now. All that matters is that they've advanced to the next round and they as players/coaches and we as fans can turn our attention to the next round. Â Arguing calls doesn't mean you get ejected, as long as you're civil about it. Seems like the bakers and that particular umpire had something going on in the past. Whether who is right and who is wrong, getting tossed by umpires that are blatantly cheating a kid is worth it. Throwing a chest bump in there is even better! I wasn't there, so whether the kid did something to the umpire is debatable I guess. Kids should not be allowed to complain about balls and strikes and should be tossed immediately. Let the coaches argue balls/strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horns1981 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 As an umpire balls and strikes our not be argued by player or coach and if I'm not mistaken baker isn't the head coach core t? An if he's not the head coach that's y he go tossed bc only the head coach can argue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberhammer Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 As an umpire balls and strikes our not be argued by player or coach and if I'm not mistaken baker isn't the head coach core t? An if he's not the head coach that's y he go tossed bc only the head coach can argue Balls and strikes should be able to be argued by the head coach. Some of you guys give the strike call to pitchers who hit their "spot" whether it be down the middle or a foot outside because the catcher sat up out there, which is not right. Call the ball a strike if it goes over the plate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSBRangers Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Wow. The umpire that did the ejecting has no history at all with the Bakers or Carlisle. Had never called a game for them prior to the weekend. Â Balls and strikes are not to be argues at any level...especially by a player. The only person that gets a little rope from time to time is the HC. Players and Assistant coaches are not allowed to argue by rule in the NFHS rules. In theory the assistant coach can be ejected just for leaving the area he is coaching in to argue. It does not matter what he said. Â If the player cursed the call as several witnesses have said then it is automatic as well. The field is an extension of the classroom and I sure hope that type of language is tolerated in the classroom. Players and coaches need to learn to control themselves: some umps do as well. But in most cases the rules are on the side of the ump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStackMack Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 As an umpire balls and strikes our not be argued by player or coach and if I'm not mistaken baker isn't the head coach core t? An if he's not the head coach that's y he go tossed bc only the head coach can argue Agree. Last i heard, Baker wasn't the Head Coach so by rule he is not allowed to approach an ump for arguement....... PRetty funny to me that of all the people there, all 3 that were ejected were Baker's...... Sounds like to me they dont know how to act right when Gunner doesn't get his way.... JMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberhammer Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Wow. The umpire that did the ejecting has no history at all with the Bakers or Carlisle. Had never called a game for them prior to the weekend. Â Balls and strikes are not to be argues at any level...especially by a player. The only person that gets a little rope from time to time is the HC. Players and Assistant coaches are not allowed to argue by rule in the NFHS rules. In theory the assistant coach can be ejected just for leaving the area he is coaching in to argue. It does not matter what he said. Â If the player cursed the call as several witnesses have said then it is automatic as well. The field is an extension of the classroom and I sure hope that type of language is tolerated in the classroom. Players and coaches need to learn to control themselves: some umps do as well. But in most cases the rules are on the side of the ump. So everyone has to bite their tongue when the guy behind the dish is blowing the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSBRangers Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 That's what the rules say. Â Fans can bark, just no coaches. That is the way it is. Gotta follow the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Was not there , but that sounds like it was a corn hole series for both teams. All coaches pissy with blue,and disenfranchised from the games. If both head coaches call uil on that group of umpires , or a single ump, it'll get ugly for him. Looks as if Ws coaches mite feel as if they were cheated out of series, bet this goes up the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD15 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 That is simply not true. I am not going to get into specifics but the young man made an inappropriate hand gesture toward the ump after a called strike 3. After the UIL reviews the footage I would be surprised if the coach was not suspended through the rest of the playoffs for chest bumping the ump. In two games Carlisle had three people ejected, a fan in game 1 and a coach and player in game two. I'm sure that those 3 do not represent the attitude and mindset of the entire Carlisle community but it got ugly on that side of the field many, many times. The admin of Carlisle ISD needs to step up and hold those accountable now and set the tone for the rest of the playoffs. I was disappointed and now will be pulling for Douglas in the next series because I want a team that has the ability to show class representing East Texas at the State Tournament. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckydog13 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Probably why they are in Carlisle or nowhere td. No one else would put up with those types of actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogbacker Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I was not there either...just reading the posts on here. I coached against Carlise for 4 years and have seen Coach Baker and Gunner at their best and worst. IMO, they are no worse than any other coach/son that I have seen. Gunner gets a rap for being competitive and his dad is a typical competitive coach. I have seen asst. coaches talk and even argue calls for 4 years in this area so this is also nothing new. Carlisle and the Bakers are fine people. Success will also bring out the haters!! Â Good luck Carlisle and the Bakers...do not let this distract you. Coach Colley runs a tight ship and he is one of the classiest guys around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheSpear78 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I was not there either...just reading the posts on here. I coached against Carlise for 4 years and have seen Coach Baker and Gunner at their best and worst. IMO, they are no worse than any other coach/son that I have seen. Gunner gets a rap for being competitive and his dad is a typical competitive coach. I have seen asst. coaches talk and even argue calls for 4 years in this area so this is also nothing new. Carlisle and the Bakers are fine people. Success will also bring out the haters!!  Good luck Carlisle and the Bakers...do not let this distract you. Coach Colley runs a tight ship and he is one of the classiest guys around  Let's go Indians! I haven't read in any of these posts where the West Sabine pitcher gave Carlisle fans the bird as he was coming off the field one inning, and saying wow that was a horrible call is not grounds for being ejected from the game. Get your facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogbacker Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I was being supportive towards the Bakers and Carlisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheSpear78 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I was being supportive towards the Bakers and Carlisle. meant that towards the other posters not you...sorry I wasn't being specific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Wasn't there so can't make a call, back in west tx again. Y'all post on Thursdays game please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD15 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Pretty sure that I have heard atleast 15 people say it was a lot more than questioning a call. Everyone knows that Carlisle has 80% of their team back from last year. They should be favored, but I can assure you that Douglass is no pushover. funny thing is, I found out today that they are starting 3 sophomores and 2 freshmen. Pretty impressive if you ask me. Guess they'll be the talk of the state next yr. This year isn't over yet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfacujackcat Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Douglass had Carlisle beat in last year's regional final until the bottom of the 7th when Carlisle won the game on a walk-off single. So I wouldn't think that Carlisle would be favored by too much, if any. This are two pretty even teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Games never over till last out is called, pitcher got predictable in regional final last year and hunter was waiting on that pitch. It'll be a good one again this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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