WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 You need to stop drinking the koolaid, if you think they will beat the Carthage Dawgs in non district, this is one year I would love to see the Dawgs line up against the mighty LOBOS. May not beat the Lobos this year, but would give them a great game. The Dawg O-line will be as good as any in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 You need to stop drinking the koolaid, if you think they will beat the Carthage Dawgs in non district, this is one year I would love to see the Dawgs line up against the mighty LOBOS. May not beat the Lobos this year, but would give them a great game. The Dawg O-line will be as good as any in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceLeeroy Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Thus JT team will have to find themselves in preseason like the 2011 team did. I will say this if JT had the defense of the 2010 team and the offense of 2012. They would have been in state. They can't seem to have both at the same time. 2010 Defense was unreal. I think they only gave up like 11 points per game. 2011 offense was very stout too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Jt won every single district game since going to 4a I wanted to know the number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 2010 Defense was unreal. I think they only gave up like 11 points per game. 2011 offense was very stout too! Yes they were a special group of kids. They both to make it to state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBOFAN84 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 You need to stop drinking the koolaid, if you think they will beat the Carthage Dawgs in non district, this is one year I would love to see the Dawgs line up against the mighty LOBOS. May not beat the Lobos this year, but would give them a great game. The Dawg O-line will be as good as any in the state. Tee Hee Hee!! Tee Hee Hee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartwicks Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Numbers do make a difference. Longview can go two deep at nearly every position. No doubt Carthage and Gilmer are very good, and could probably play with Longview for a while, but Longview's depth would eventually wear them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I bet Carthage would certainly give longview a game in fact Gilmer would be competive as well. K. I'm sure Jacksonville and Nac would too. Absolutely unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdcoastent Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I'm gone call this game early an when the game over I'm upping this post. Jt 35 whitehouse 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Numbers do make a difference. Maybe only in East Texas... Bishop Gorman has about the same depth as Gilmer and Carthage every year. Yet, they're nationally ranked every year. Same story with Bellevue, WA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 LoL those two are not good teams Exactly. Yet Carthage and Gilmer struggle to beat those teams every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Longview has proven they are certainlty Beatable. Somehow, being beat by state powerhouse's like Westlake and Allen has translated into Longview being beatable by 3A schools. K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdcoastent Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The 2011 chapel hill team would of gave them a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Longview has proven they are certainlty Beatable. Against who? It's been 14 seasons since a team not named Lufkin/John Tyler/Tyler Lee from East Texas has beaten us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Lobos do not always lose to allen katy slc in the playoffs. Who have we lost to in the playoffs that wasn't an unreal team the past couple of seasons? '12 - Austin Westlake - State Semi-Finals, one play away from going to State. '11 - Spring DeKaney - State Champions '10 - Denton Guyer - State Finalist '09 - Lake Travis - State Champions '08 - Lake Travis - State Champions '07 - Pflugerville - State Finalist '06 - Garland - State Semi-Finalist, one play away from going to State The only team that has defeated Longview since King got here and hasn't reached at least the State Semi-Finals (and been one play away from going to State, as Lufkin also was in 04), was South Garland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Win state then talk about Great. So..now we have to win a 5A title to beat a 3A school? Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Who have we lost to in the playoffs that wasn't an unreal team the past couple of seasons? '12 - Austin Westlake - State Semi-Finals, one play away from going to State. '11 - Spring DeKaney - State Champions '10 - Denton Guyer - State Finalist '09 - Lake Travis - State Champions '08 - Lake Travis - State Champions '07 - Pflugerville - State Finalist '06 - Garland - State Semi-Finalist, one play away from going to State Gilmer and Carthage would beat those teams too. 5A is weak.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I didn't say longview wasn't good, but there is a trend. Good program but not elite. Before you say it longview would beat the #### out of henderson lol. You're saying a team with less than 1,000 in enrollment would challenge us. The last time we played teams would close to 1,000 enrollment....ask Mount Pleasant and Sulphur Springs among others how close the games were. Ask Jacksonville and Whitehouse, how close their playoff games against us were. Carthage struggles to even defeat Nacogdoches most years...and do I really need to help you how competitive Nac would be against us now a days? It was bad before, and would be even worse now a days. Not a single Longview fan is saying we're elite, but you're trying to grasp at these teams that are good two enrollment levels below us as being competitive against us, when we're hanging and defeating the top teams in the state most years. There's absolutely no proof that out there that says they could hang with any program like Longview or Lufkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Did I say that. Indeed you did, just indirectly. We had good games with those teams for the most part, but since Gilmer and Carthage can play with Longview..they can play with those teams too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Enrollment doesn't = wins. Plano East would a Champion all the time and yall would be the the two time 4a Champion. Lake Travis was around similar enrollment when they defeated us. But can you show me a time that Longview has struggled to defeat a team that has similar enrollment to Gilmer or Carthage that wasn't a private school (aka John Curtis or Evangel)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Carthage struggles to even defeat Nacogdoches most years...and do I really need to help you how competitive Nac would be against us now a days? It was bad before, and would be even worse now a days. You don't have to. Just look at what Lufkin does to them every year. Hallsville even whoops Nac yearly. But Carthage (who can barely beat them) somehow can play with Longview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVODIDIT Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 How did LV get pulled into this? I am by no means a Lobo fan, but I wish they would win state just to shut up some of these characters from the peanut gallery. I would make no bets either way on WH this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Bet it kills you that yall lost in 7 on 7 to lowly 3a right. Losing a debate, so you bring up 7 on 7. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 How did LV get pulled into this? I am by no means a Lobo fan, but I wish they would win state just to shut up some of these characters from the peanut gallery. I would make no bets either way on WH this year. Via, this guy from Carthage. You need to stop drinking the koolaid, if you think they will beat the Carthage Dawgs in non district, this is one year I would love to see the Dawgs line up against the mighty LOBOS. May not beat the Lobos this year, but would give them a great game. The Dawg O-line will be as good as any in the state. Truly sad, truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 How did LV get pulled into this? I am by no means a Lobo fan, but I wish they would win state just to shut up some of these characters from the Backwaters. Fify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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