RETIREDFAN1 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 http://rickwells.us/jeb-bush-confederate-flag-is-a-racist-symbol-si-se-puede-take-it-down/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Another Confederate flag thread.... awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Another Confederate flag thread.... awesomeNASCAR fans defend, display Confederate flags at DaytonaJul 5, 2015 12:42 By MARK LONG AP Sports Writer DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) - Steven Rebenstorf has numerous flags flying atop his canopy tent inside Daytona International Speedway. The Confederate flag is front and center. It's been like that for years. And the 57-year-old Rebenstorf has no plans to take it down - not even if NASCAR decides to ban the embattled flag from its racetracks. "They'd have to come and get it," Rebenstorf said Saturday, pointing out that his American flag purposely flies a few inches higher than the rest. Rebenstorf and others staunchly defended their Confederate flags at NASCAR's first race in the South since the racing series and its tracks urged fans to no longer wave the banner. Dozens were scattered throughout the vast infield all weekend leading to Sunday's race. "It kills me that NASCAR is jumping on the bandwagon," said 55-year-old Paul Stevens of nearby Port Orange. "They should just let it pass, let everything die down. But NASCAR is too quick to try to be politically correct like everybody else." NASCAR took a stance on the Confederate flag after last month's South Carolina church massacre. It backed Gov. Nikki Haley's call to remove it from the Statehouse grounds and noted it doesn't allow the flag on anything it sanctions. The series stopped short of banning fans from displaying the flag at its events, but Daytona and 29 other tracks asked fans to refrain from flying them. Not everyone obliged. Daytona also offered to exchange Confederate flags for American flags this weekend, and track officials said a few made the swap Sunday morning. "I think the voluntary exchange program for us right now was appropriate with the limited window that we had coming into this event weekend," track president Joie Chitwood said. "And more importantly, I think it's important to trust our fans, asking our fans to display a flag that we should all be proud of. Everybody should be proud of the American flag." Indeed, the American flag is prominently displayed all around Daytona - no surprise given the Fourth of July holiday and the patriotism that NASCAR routinely promotes. But spotting a Confederate flag is easier than finding a souvenir shop, restroom or beer stand. The first motorhome located inside the Turn 4 tunnel has one flying high above it, and it doesn't take long to reach double figures when counting them on a stroll through the infield. They're on clothing, coolers and cars, and even tattooed on skin. Larry Reeves of Jacksonville Beach has a tattered Confederate flag on top of his motorhome. He initially thought NASCAR was banning the banner and didn't display it this week. But once he saw some flying around him and asked a few questions, he realized it was voluntary and quickly sent his back up the pole. "It's just a Southern pride thing," the 66-year-old Reeves said. "It's nothing racist or anything. I've been doing this for 30 years. My family is from Alabama and we've been going to Talladega forever. It isn't a Confederate thing so much as it is a NASCAR thing. That's why I fly it." Like others at Daytona, Reeves believes the flag flap is much ado about nothing. "It's not a big deal one way or the other," Reeves said. "If I can't fly it, I won't. But if I don't have to take it down, I'm just going to leave it up." Rebenstorf plans to leave his up no matter what NASCAR mandates. The St. Petersburg resident spent six years in the Navy, served in the color guard and has strong feelings about vexillology, the scientific study of the history, symbolism and usage of flags. "The Confederate flag has absolutely nothing to do with slavery. It has nothing to do with divisiveness. It has nothing to do with any of that," Rebenstorf said, pausing for a few minutes to pull off his floppy hat, stand at attention and salute during the national anthem Saturday. "It was just a battle banner until the Ku Klux Klan draped it around themselves. Now, all of a sudden, it represents slavery and that's not at all true." The Civil War-era flag has been under attack since nine black men and women were gunned down at a historic church in Charleston on June 17. The suspect, 21-year-old Dylann Roof, had posed with a Confederate flag in photos posted on a website that displayed a racist manifesto attributed to him. NASCAR, which has roots in the deep South, moved quickly to distance itself from the flag despite some backlash from fans. The sanctioning body could have done - and eventually might do - more. "I think what happens in this situation is you have people on both sides who feel very strongly about something and they're very passionate about it," Chitwood said. "You can't argue with someone's passion or their opinion. That creates something that ends up on the front page of the newspaper or is the headline in the news. If we're going to enter that discussion, you've got to be thoughtful and we've got to really think through it and be fair to both sides and make sure that whatever we come up can work. "In something like this, the more thoughtful we can be, understanding and really taking the time to really vet through, I think that's going to be the important thing moving forward." Copyright 2015 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 That should get Bush all the black vote....LOL what a idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 We need to stay out da bushes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Florida County Reinstates Confederate Flag to Government Offices http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/florida-county-reinstates-confederate-flag-to-government-offices/ Someone taking a stand...bet it comes down later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I have to question when the Texas flag will become racist. It was Mexico from whom Texas gained it's birth. With the influx does it seem impossible the same fate waits the Lone Star flag? Yeah, I TRIED to point that out to the Mod who gave me a two day suspension the other day, to NO avail, & I didn't even use offensive terminology, but was told that I MEANT it offensively, therefore it WAS offensive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 ^^^Well I committed the crime of using the last two words in NAACP in a sentence & FiveOpd310 read my mind & suspended me for having "offensive thoughts"! George Orwell spoke of the " Thought Police" if I'm not mistaken... This world is on a bobsled ride straight to hell... Oh, Also I cannot PM ANYONE to complain because every time I try, I get "502 Bad Gateway" messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 rowseNotessearch Homework Help In 1984, who are the Thought Police and what is Thoughtcrime? Topic: 1984 unknown01 | Student, Undergraduate | eNotes Newbie Posted February 9, 2010 at 7:23 AM via web dislike1like In 1984, who are the Thought Police and what is Thoughtcrime? 2 Answers | Add Yours mrs-campbell | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus Posted February 9, 2010 at 7:37 AM (Answer #1) dislike3like In 1984, the government, or the Party, is a very controlling force in the lives of the citizens. It puts up cameras everywhere to watch the people, and to enforce good, patriotic behavior. So, no matter where you go, you are always being watched. That way, if you say something negative against the Party, it is recorded, and the government comes after you. It is wrong to say anything against the Party, to rebel, or even to not be super-enthusiastic about the Party in any way. And, it isn't only actions and words that are punished; they attempt to punish even your rebellious thoughts. So, the Thought Police are the people hired by the government to monitor all of the screens, and to hunt down and find anyone who has committed crimes against the party. Those crimes are speaking out, not participating in activities, appearing to not enjoy Party activities, and even thinking badly about activities. How do they monitor thoughts? Well, sometimes when you are sleeping, you talk in your sleep, and those words reflect your inner thoughts. Sometimes, you might hesitate before chanting a Party ritual. Sometimes, you might not be yelling out hatred during the set-aside Hate times during the day. Any hesitation, any apparent lack of enthusiasm or patriotism, is considered Thoughtcrime, becuase it indicates that your thoughts are rebellious, that in your head and heart you aren't loyal to the Party. So, the Thought Police punish you not only for blatant crimes, but subtle things too, labeled as Thoughtcrimes. It's a pretty scary situation, and one that stresses Winston out. He is always worried that the Thought Police are going to know that he hates the party, and come after him. I hope that those thoughts helped; good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 CarthDawg77, You have been given a warning by Five0pd310. Reason: Abusive Behaviour <div class='callout'> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Colored people? Really? You know better than that. Take a couple of days to read over the rules.<br /> <br />Five0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 CarthDawg77, on 08 Jul 2015 - 10:18 AM, said: Merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the NAACP & you just validated it. It's all in the context. If you intended it to be offensive, then it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 FiveOpd310 IS the "Thought Police" George Orwell spoke of in "1984".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Second FIRST AMENDMENT Rights Violation coming in 3...2...1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camuchs Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 ^ Tru storie and exactly the reason I declined the offer to be a mod on this site. A wise man once said " The only person who can give you permission to be offended is YOU" (paraphrased) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 ^ Tru storie and exactly the reason I declined the offer to be a mod on this site. A wise man once said " The only person who can give you permission to be offended is YOU" (paraphrased) Obviously, he never heard of Al Sharptoon, Jesse Jackarse, Oprah Winfrey, MSNBC, The NAACP, The DNC & others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Hey FiveO...! I'm flipping through the channels on Dish TV & lo & behold, There is a movie entitled, " For Colored Girls" starring Janet Jackson! Isn't THAT racist?????Oh! Never mind...it's on BET, so it's OK... Freakin' hypocrites😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camuchs Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 sounds like Five-0 gave himself permission to be offended. And by the by... It matters NOT how you intended it, no one can be offended unless they allow themselves to be, and you can't be offended for someone else anymore than you can accept Christ for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Amen... #RantOver!😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Bout the only time I get offended is when I had my young one with me and someone was using the F-word very loud. I just moved on but a long time ago people even the idiots had manners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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