Lobo97 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 This article is by Dan Lyons.... Report: Kyler Murray Didn’t Play vs. Ole Miss Because He Cursed Out Jake Spavital During Alabama Game After a blowout loss to Ole Miss, Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin said that freshman Kyler Murray didn’t get an opportunity at quarterback, despite massive struggles by starter Kyle Allen,because of how he looked in practice. According to a report byCBS Houston’s John P. Lopez, the issues run far deeper than that. In a long piece chronicling some serious dissent within the Aggies program, Lopez says that Murray was benched after cursing out offensive coordinator Jake Spavital after being pulled from last week’s game against Alabama after an interception. He also discusses a playing time promise that was given to Murray during the recruiting process, which further complicates things. According to Lopez, Murray was also not given any snaps with the first team this week, and the issues may be dividing the team. Hence, when Murray was yanked in the Alabama game after throwing an interception, he went full F-bomb on Spavital and his fate for the Ole Miss game was sealed. Had Allen looked competent, this may not have been a major issue, but he was completely ineffective against the Rebels defense. He finished 12-of-34 for 88 yards and a pick, and was 0-for-13 in the third quarter, with the game hanging in the balance. Two weeks ago, A&M was 5-0, coming off a bye week to face powerhouse Alabama. Now, it looks like things are on the verge of falling apart in College Station. Some players also believed Murray should have been left at home, rather than face the embarrassment of national television cameras focused on him any time Allen made a mistake. Then, the worst-case scenario happened. Allen wasn’t just bad. He was awful. And there was Murray, shamed on the sideline, for all the college football world to see. Players began taking sides in the locker-room more than ever, some believing Allen’s physical (shoulder) and mental struggles should have opened the door for Murray to get a legitimate chance to make the team his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red90fly Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Funny a few weeks ago everything was about Strong has "lost" his team and some predicting Longhorns to go 4-8. Oh how quickly things can change in a matter of weeks in college football. The schedule this season was set up perfectly for A&M to actually have a shot at the playoff but I'm not surprised with how the season's playing out , aggies will be nothing more than middle of the pack SEC west team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Funny a few weeks ago everything was about Strong has "lost" his team and some predicting Longhorns to go 4-8. Oh how quickly things can change in a matter of weeks in college football. I also see theirs a video going viral of Sumlin stumbling around buzzed/drunk in a hotel. Charlie isn't out of the woods yet... their next 3 games will determine if they go to a bowl game. No way in hell they beat Baylor and Texas Tech will be a 50/50 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Charlie isn't out of the woods yet... their next 3 games will determine if they go to a bowl game. No way in hell they beat Baylor and Texas Tech will be a 50/50 game. WVU will be tough on the road too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Be about right. Get a defense and the offense goes to heck. Spavital should have been gone last year. Guy is not an offensive coordinator. He's a barely average position coach that has fooled CS into thinking he's a genius. He's an idiot savant without the savant. Turn the keys over to Christensen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Charlie isn't out of the woods yet... their next 3 games will determine if they go to a bowl game. No way in hell they beat Baylor and Texas Tech will be a 50/50 game. Texas might have a shot with Baylors QB breaking his neck bones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher805 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Some house cleaning needs to be done, and A&M really needs to make sure it all stays in-house. Interested to see what Sumlin says/does tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Any chance Murray leaves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher805 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Any chance Murray leaves?I dunno...I know WET mentioned it recently, but I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Charlie isn't out of the woods yet... their next 3 games will determine if they go to a bowl game. No way in hell they beat Baylor and Texas Tech will be a 50/50 game. I don't want to derail this thread but the notion that Strong is on the hot seat is ludicrous. Of all the internet news stories that came out three weeks ago claiming Strong was history if he didn't beat OU, not a single one put forth any names to validate what they were writing. A majority of what is posted on the internet is click bait. There are very few true journalists these days. Most are op/ed writers that present their BS as fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Strong should have another at the least. You gotta give him to time to clean up afger Mack and at least a shot with his guys. Spavital needs to be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird9100 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 sounds like there are more internal issues in college station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 sounds like there are more internal issues in college station Elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 A&M has traded back up QB Kyler Murray to Oregon in return for OC Scott Frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird9100 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Elaborate? After getting embarrassed 59-0 in Tuscaloosa last year it was said there were internal issues. I was just referring to that and the Qb telling spavital to f off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillSimmons Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Sounds like Kyler Murray has the Boobie Myles personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I don't want to derail this thread but the notion that Strong is on the hot seat is ludicrous. Of all the internet news stories that came out three weeks ago claiming Strong was history if he didn't beat OU, not a single one put forth any names to validate what they were writing. A majority of what is posted on the internet is click bait. There are very few true journalists these days. Most are op/ed writers that present their BS as fact. I never said he was on the hot seat.... I insinuated that he isn't safe just yet. losses to Iowa State, Texas Tech, and West Virginia coupled with a blowout loss in Baylor... Tell me that couldn't happen and I will laugh in your face. Losing 4 of these last 5 will put them at 4-8. And he guaranteed he would not have 7 losses again... does 8 not count or will his boosters forgive him just because he beat OU? Now do I think it will happen? Heck no. But from what I have seen this season, I know that teams only have to really stop 1 player to shut down your offense... so losing those 4 is not an impossible or even unlikely scenario. You can't beat OU and Kansas St, raise expectations then away your bowl hopes in your final 5 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 A&M has traded back up QB Kyler Murray to Oregon in return for OC Scott Frost. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cats69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I would take any Offensive Coordinator over what we have now. And Although he is just awful and needs to go, I still can't help but feel that Murray is coming off as an entitled spoiled brat. Another thing I heard is that Kevin & Kyler feel that he never really got a fair chance at the starting job. There is nothing I have seen that warrants him being the starter up until this point. He's small and doesn't have the arm strength just yet. Doesn't matter how all world you were in high school and how many people wanted you, you're till not above team or coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I would take any Offensive Coordinator over what we have now. And Although he is just awful and needs to go, I still can't help but feel that Murray is coming off as an entitled spoiled brat. Another thing I heard is that Kevin & Kyler feel that he never really got a fair chance at the starting job. There is nothing I have seen that warrants him being the starter up until this point. He's small and doesn't have the arm strength just yet. Doesn't matter how all world you were in high school and how many people wanted you, you're till not above team or coaches. Multiple reports were that Murray had one of the best HS QB scouting reports every. Said he could make all the throws etc. I don't doubt he was promised early playing time. It's something a lot of HS athletes deal with adjusting to. Something A&M will have to adjust to as the continue to bring in elite talent. On another note, I met him after A&M/Ark. He is a short guy. If he is an even 5'9" is be shocked. Very arrogant guy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillSimmons Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I would take any Offensive Coordinator over what we have now. And Although he is just awful and needs to go, I still can't help but feel that Murray is coming off as an entitled spoiled brat. Another thing I heard is that Kevin & Kyler feel that he never really got a fair chance at the starting job. There is nothing I have seen that warrants him being the starter up until this point. He's small and doesn't have the arm strength just yet. Doesn't matter how all world you were in high school and how many people wanted you, you're till not above team or coaches. I thought he was a candidate for a coaching position. Has that changed after the recent offensive struggles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedBear Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Charlie isn't out of the woods yet... their next 3 games will determine if they go to a bowl game. No way in hell they beat Baylor and Texas Tech will be a 50/50 game. He was never in the woods...this is his 2nd year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedBear Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Any chance Murray leaves? He'll be in Austin or Fort Worth by this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillSimmons Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 He was never in the woods...this is his 2nd year Its UT. They don't think you are going to win, they are already looking for a new head coach. He don't make a bowl, he gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 As much as I love the Longhorns and could talk about them all day, we have enough threads already for them. Stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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