Mr. P Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Landry is nothing like Baker... Agree with everything said here, but I would add one more thing... Landry Jones seldom *won* games for OU. Don't get me wrong, he had plenty of highlights (and his stats speak for themselves) but I don't remember a game situation where he transcended his level of play to lift the team to victory in the face of defeat. Landry always just seemed like a cog (a valuable cog, mind you) in the machine. When the O was clicking, Landry was a golden god. But under heavy adversity, he was all too human. Baker Mayfield seems to thrive on challenge. Mayfield is completely unlike anything we've had at QB in years... possibly since Heupel, or even further back. He seems to just *will* plays to happen. There are so many plays where the has-been ex-QB in me will see the coverage before the snap and think, "Hmm, better not throw it to so-and-so, he's got double coverage." And dang if he doesn't throw it right to that guy in the absolute perfect spot for a 20-yard completion! Baker makes the entire offense better, which in turn makes the defense better, and thus the team. Though this may raise some eyebrows with other OU fans, I think *right now* Baker is better than past Heisman winners Sam Bradford and Jason White. He has as good if not better mobility than pre-knee injuries White, and equal ability to make the clutch pass as Bradford did. Baker's been dreaming of playing at OU since he's a kid, I doubt he has any intention of leaving college any sooner than he has to. Shoot, I bet he'd like to get back the elgibility lost last year for two more seasons with the Sooners. My money is still on McCaffrey. I know he's a long shot but with his numbers and worth to Stanford he has to be in the running. I concur... I don't know why this kid isn't a bigger deal. Short of Mayfield, I can't think of anyone who means more to their team's success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I would have to guess either Watson or Henry. But man, McCaffrey is a stud. Would like to see him in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Agree with everything said here, but I would add one more thing... Landry Jones seldom *won* games for OU. Don't get me wrong, he had plenty of highlights (and his stats speak for themselves) but I don't remember a game situation where he transcended his level of play to lift the team to victory in the face of defeat. Landry always just seemed like a cog (a valuable cog, mind you) in the machine. When the O was clicking, Landry was a golden god. But under heavy adversity, he was all too human. Baker Mayfield seems to thrive on challenge. Mayfield is completely unlike anything we've had at QB in years... possibly since Heupel, or even further back. He seems to just *will* plays to happen. There are so many plays where the has-been ex-QB in me will see the coverage before the snap and think, "Hmm, better not throw it to so-and-so, he's got double coverage." And dang if he doesn't throw it right to that guy in the absolute perfect spot for a 20-yard completion! Baker makes the entire offense better, which in turn makes the defense better, and thus the team. Though this may raise some eyebrows with other OU fans, I think *right now* Baker is better than past Heisman winners Sam Bradford and Jason White. He has as good if not better mobility than pre-knee injuries White, and equal ability to make the clutch pass as Bradford did. Baker's been dreaming of playing at OU since he's a kid, I doubt he has any intention of leaving college any sooner than he has to. Shoot, I bet he'd like to get back the elgibility lost last year for two more seasons with the Sooners. I concur... I don't know why this kid isn't a bigger deal. Short of Mayfield, I can't think of anyone who means more to their team's success. I'm not ready to declare Mayfield better than Bradford or White. When those two were the quarterback I expected to score every drive. I can't say that about Baker. The teams around White and Bradford were more talented too thoughz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm not ready to declare Mayfield better than Bradford or White. When those two were the quarterback I expected to score every drive. I can't say that about Baker. The teams around White and Bradford were more talented too thoughz Yeah, I'm initially hesitant until I consider the talent those guys had around them, especially the defense during White's tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Bo Jackson has gone on record as saying Henry has his vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Congrats to Derrick Henry on winning the Heisman Trophy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Congrats to Derrick Henry on winning the Heisman Trophy. I'm glad he didn't get hurt with his garbage time carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm glad he didn't get hurt with his garbage time carries.I don't consider putting the game in the hands of the guy who put you in position for a championship to protect a 9 point lead "garbage time". He's carried them all year, and the two backups are unproven freshmen. They were making sure they won the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I don't consider putting the game in the hands of the guy who put you in position for a championship to protect a 9 point lead "garbage time". He's carried them all year, and the two backups are unproven freshmen. They were making sure they won the game. Getting the ball with two minutes left and the other team having no time outs is garbage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I just don't see how we can give a Heisman for this 295 attempts, 1797 yards, 22 touchdowns, and 6.1 YPC When this didn't win a Heisman 343 attempts, 2587 yards, 29 touchdowns, and 7.5 YPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I just don't see how we can give a Heisman for this 295 attempts, 1797 yards, 22 touchdowns, and 6.1 YPC When this didn't win a Heisman 343 attempts, 2587 yards, 29 touchdowns, and 7.5 YPC Was the second one this year? That's what matters. I'm not big on individual awards, but out of players this year, Derrick Henry wins it, hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It was Melvin Gordon last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It was Melvin Gordon last year.I thought he should have won it. Voters got hooked on Mariotta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I thought he should have won it. Voters got hooked on Mariotta. That usually how the Heisman is won unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Nothing against Baker, but I hope he gets snubbed from an invite. Just another chip on the shoulder going into the playoffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Does anyone know which one's have already gotten their invites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Nothing against Baker, but I hope he gets snubbed from an invite. Just another chip on the shoulder going into the playoffs Yeah that would work out nice. We've had plenty of Heisman winners. It is time for another National Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Does anyone know which one's have already gotten their invites? They won't do the invites until 12/8 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 McCaffrey breaks Barry Sanders' single-season all-purpose yards record (3,250). Has 217 in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Barry Sanders in 1988: 3,249 yds on 394 touches Christian McCaffrey in 2015: 3,254 yds on 388 touches (so far) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 McCaffrey should win it! Not impressed by Henry, as I've said before the Bama RB is just as much of a system guy as a Baylor or Tech QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 McCaffrey should win it! Not impressed by Henry, as I've said before the Bama RB is just as much of a system guy as a Baylor or Tech QB! I wouldn't say system, but the Bama RBs clearly benefit from huge OLs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I wouldn't say system, but the Bama RBs clearly benefit from huge OLs...Does Stanford not use an O-line? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingnut Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 McCaffrey won't win, but he should! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 McCaffrey won't win, but he should! Explain why the guy who rushed for more yards in a season than Herschel Walker while carrying his team to the playoffs shouldn't win it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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