CreasyBear Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Wrong - the board and supt decided to hire the firm. If the hire does not work out - it is the board and the supts fault. Not the firm. Had they not hired the firm, maybe things would have worked out. They can't deflect the blame. If it works out - they get the credit for going out and hiring a head hunter firm to get them what they wanted and "By golly, it worked Jethro" If it does not work - they get the blame for not hiring a good head coach THEMSELVES. Be consistent guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Suspensions will follow if there is anymore "idiot" talk....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 What's your stance on search firms colmesey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamaboy Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Suspensions will follow if there is anymore "idiot" talk....... I publically am sorry for letting it slip. Can I get the same suspension for more "racist" talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Seems like there's lots of interest on the Rusk job. Like several of you have said, the hometown hero story sounds good, doesn't mean it is. Rusk needs to hire the best candidate, not just hire a local boy. My opinion on hiring the search firm, easy scapegoat for the Supt/School board. Someone asked about any hires recommended by Champions Consulting in the area, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is who Jacksonville used when Steve Wells was hired? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I prefer the old fashioned way, look around and see who's winning and offer him or her a butload of money to take the job.. Seems to work for other towns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I publically am sorry for letting it slip. Can I get the same suspension for more "racist" talk?well.....since YOU started it, I guess I can give you 3 days if you insist......:p What's your stance on search firms colmesey?I wouldn't want my tax dollars paying for one....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Come on True...you know why Joaquin is playing Huntington......double "wang"...vs double "wang"....Gandy "clan" vs GandyJoaquin no longer runs the double wing. Hasn't since '14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I am going to be consistent with my view on this Greasy..... I don't agree with paying a firm to do the hiring or presenting of candidates to a Supt/Board. Quite Ironic that a founder of the search firm has ties to one of the possible candidates........... networking at it's best going on here...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermaroon Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I am going to be consistent with my view on this Greasy..... I don't agree with paying a firm to do the hiring or presenting of candidates to a Supt/Board. Quite Ironic that a founder of the search firm has ties to one of the possible candidates........... networking at it's best going on here...... Well in all honesty in this business networking is what its all about. Most the time its about who you know not what you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I agree with you on that. But .....hiring a firm to do your search that should be unbiased ( still don't agree with the firm being hired) . Hard to be unbiased when you have close ties to a candidate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermaroon Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Agreed but it is what it is maybe they will make the right choice and not the buddy system choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Creasy is up from his nap....stay tuned....going to say what we believe is wrong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntcoach Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Do you think the Search Firm hires more form the list of coaches that apply for the jobs or the coaches that pay to be in their database? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreasyBear Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 How would it be any different than someone on the board bringing back hometown hero that he's known for 30 years? How would it be any different than the supt hiring a former coach he used to coach with or had work for him in the past? People will endorse what they have confidence in. It's what got us killed with Obama getting RE-elected. Had we had a stronger opponent run that was PROVEN in ways that encouraged us to believe, we would not have had so many people vote him back in the white house. How would it be any different than you looking for a someone to do some work for you and you asking your dad - "Hey Pops....you know a good plumber? I got some work needs doing and I want it to be right. I need it to be within a specific price range, I need it done in a certain time frame and I need it done at a certain level - do you know a guy that fits THAT description?" That's what you your board and supt are doing. They set a price range. The classification of your school is a limiting factor for the job. If it's a 1 year or 2 year contract - that too will be a limiting factor. How many coaches can this guy bring? Will he have administrative duties or classroom assignment? What all will this job entail? The board knows and the supt knows. They hand that over to the search firm. I guarantee you, this firm will find candidates or filter through resumes that fit this criteria FASTER and more efficiently than the supt or board. IT'S WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING!!!!! It is NOT what anyone on that school board is qualified to do AT ALL and the supt is not more qualified than the search firm. I couldn't care less to be honest, I just feel it's healthy to have a back and forth of both sides so we can see if this thing is legit or not. There was another school in this area just made a hire. Board and Supt made it. They hired a guy that was 5-55 in last 6 years. I promise you, a hiring firm would NEVER do that. It would destroy their credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamaboy Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Moral of the story...as long as districts write them a check and the coaches in their database pay their dues, everything is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntcoach Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I have no problem with the Search Firm. What i think is not right that people pay the firm to have their resume on file and fill jobs with them instead of the people that applied for the jobs that the search firm is trying to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooncity Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Board meeting last night...anyone have an update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 And this has been a public service announcement for Search Firms.....by CreasyBear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I see your logic Creasy...just don't agree with using it in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreasyBear Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 LOL.....not really nasty. I just think there should be a healthy "back and forth" to see what we all really think is OK and what is not. You still haven't answered any of my questions asked in my last post. I think you just wanted to gripe about and said you don't like it just off the cuff and on the surface. I don't think you really have a legitimate reason to NOT like it. Me??? I could argue your point much better than you, but it would be no fun a'tal simply talking at meself! I see your logic Creasy...just don't agree with using it in this situation. Why - please be specific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleRider Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 bignasty.......Could you help a brother out ? Inquiring minds want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 read pm Pale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdJesus Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 So, bignasty has some inside info?? So, bignasty has some inside info?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 your killing me .......Smalls!!!!!! I have no inside info on anything.........just ask Creasybear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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