upullinmychain Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Hmmmmm, punchers mite do it first.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAhomer Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Hmmmmm, punchers mite do it first.. Thats wishful thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipperRipper Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Well, just food for thought. Carlisle beat Alto in Alto, Alto beat 4A D2 Rusk at Rusk's homecoming, Rusk lost to Pleasant Grove by only 12 points for bi-district, and only in the 3rd round did Pleasant Grove fall to Celina by only 4 points. It's crazy like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 We ain't that good, nuthing to see here... Move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I don't think anyone in this region will beat Refugio this year. Herring has a football factory set up there. Groveton loses their QB and I don't know about his replacement. SA has as many athletes as anyone in the state but rarely stays disciplined enough to play good defense consistently. Alto will always be in the mix; don't see how they can be left out of any "top programs" discussion. Haven't seen Carlisle. Centerville lines up and plays smash-mouth but they're vulnerable to speed and a good d-line/fast LBs. LL didn't have the speed they had last year and were short on size. It finally caught up to them. Small-school football (especially) runs in cycles. Sooner or later someone from Region 3 will come up with a couple of D1 athletes and enough complimentary players to win a title, but who knows who or when. All this talk of a "football factory" at Refugio got me to doing a little research. I was thinking a program as feared and revered as these guys would have a half-dozen trophies from this century alone. Guess how many state titles they've won in this millennium? One. That's right. One less than Alto or Stratford, two less than Mart or Stamford, three less than Canadian. Now, they may very well hang a hundred on everyone they play from here on out. But I'm not seeing the Alabama of small-school Texas football here. Maybe the Bobcat bandwagonneers are looking at different criteria than me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAhomer Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The last 5 years they have been to 3 title games nobody said they are a dynasty but, they are in the hunt every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAhomer Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 All this talk of a "football factory" at Refugio got me to doing a little research. I was thinking a program as feared and revered as these guys would have a half-dozen trophies from this century alone. Guess how many state titles they've won in this millennium? One. That's right. One less than Alto or Stratford, two less than Mart or Stamford, three less than Canadian. Now, they may very well hang a hundred on everyone they play from here on out. But I'm not seeing the Alabama of small-school Texas football here. Maybe the Bobcat bandwagonneers are looking at different criteria than me. Refugio has been beaten by all of the teams you have listed except Stamford and Stratford, so they must be doing something right if they continue to compete, coming from a weak region and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red90fly Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I know on the 2a site they like to think Region 4 is "big boy" football and where smash mouth rules the day, but it wasn't to long ago when Alto and Cayuga steam rolled the Region 4 winners for about a 4 year stretch. Like someone said it goes in cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipperRipper Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Alto dominated them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Refugio has been beaten by all of the teams you have listed except Stamford and Stratford, so they must be doing something right if they continue to compete, coming from a weak region and all.All I'm saying is the idea that they can't be beaten is a little over the top. The road of football history is littered with teams that supposedly couldn't be beaten, but then they lost. This may very well be their year, but they are far from the dominant program so many say they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooderson Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 No one is saying that Refugio can't be beaten but they have been in the Quarters for nine straight years and have been eliminated by either a state finalist or state champion in the last 7 seasons. Regardless of what you may think of them personally that is quite an accomplishment at the small school level with limited enrollments every year. Also regardless of what you think of region 4 no team currently in region 3 has gotten to the state final since Cayuga in 2008. Alto was the last current region 3 member in this classification to win a title when they went back to back in 06 and 07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAhomer Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Alto dominated themAlto did not dominate Refugio that was a close defensive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipperRipper Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Alto did not dominate Refugio that was a close defensive game. Alto dominated their region...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooderson Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Yep 10 years ago before Mason or Refugio was in their same classification.. Now if you want to revert back to 1995 when Alto did beat Refugio then by all means go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 No one is saying that Refugio can't be beaten but they have been in the Quarters for nine straight years and have been eliminated by either a state finalist or state champion in the last 7 seasons. Regardless of what you may think of them personally that is quite an accomplishment at the small school level with limited enrollments every year. Also regardless of what you think of region 4 no team currently in region 3 has gotten to the state final since Cayuga in 2008. Alto was the last current region 3 member in this classification to win a title when they went back to back in 06 and 07.Cayuga was in Region 3 in 2008 and 2009, and I believe they won the title in '09. But you are correct in that, since the divisions were split in 2010, no current Region 3 team has reached the final. Region 4 has had our number. Refugio, Mason, and Shiner have all fielded outstanding teams in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 All this talk of a "football factory" at Refugio got me to doing a little research. I was thinking a program as feared and revered as these guys would have a half-dozen trophies from this century alone. Guess how many state titles they've won in this millennium? One. That's right. One less than Alto or Stratford, two less than Mart or Stamford, three less than Canadian. Now, they may very well hang a hundred on everyone they play from here on out. But I'm not seeing the Alabama of small-school Texas football here. Maybe the Bobcat bandwagonneers are looking at different criteria than me. I bet ya we could give them a game. Refugio is famous for beating bad schools with really gaudy numbers. Always seem to choke and play dirty in the big games. Â We'd give em a good game for sure. The last 5 years they have been to 3 title games nobody said they are a dynasty but, they are in the hunt every year. Product of a weak region? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Cayuga was in Region 3 in 2008 and 2009, and I believe they won the title in '09. But you are correct in that, since the divisions were split in 2010, no current Region 3 team has reached the final. Region 4 has had our number. Refugio, Mason, and Shiner have all fielded outstanding teams in recent years. Â Because the only team in region 3 that knows how to slay another tiger right now resides in Division 2, 12 miles down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Because the only team in region 3 that knows how to slay another tiger right now resides in Division 2, 12 miles down the road.Correct. We were speaking of D1. I would like to see a Refugio vs. Tenaha or Bremond game. That would be fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 They overrated.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAhomer Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Because the only team in region 3 that knows how to slay another tiger right now resides in Division 2, 12 miles down the road.Tenny Ha wouldn't make it outta bi district in region 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedorange Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 refugio defense real deal this year. region 3 will not beat them this year.. Region 4 is overall weak but refugio and mason are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 You don't really believe that do it. They literally lost by a touchdown to 4a team that still playing. Man everybody on here knows they legit, I'm just poking the bear. I'm the kinda dude be on one knee picking up teeth and still be telling ya ta pizz off.. Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everide2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 It's not "all this talk about football factory." Only one or two people on here have used that term. Most of us on here would love to have a hometown team that could come close to their success. Â Refugio is not on par with a number of other programs when it comes to titles, but certainly doing a lot with what they have. How many other teams in the state have won 91% of their games over the last 10 years, 2007-2016 to-date? How many other teams have played 144 games over the last 10 years? Very few. They've played a minimum of 13 games in each of those years. Most would gladly take the 132-12 record that Herring has compiled at Refugio along with one championship and two state runner-ups. Even the almighty Yoe has only won 104 games in that same 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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