sawemoff Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 IMG_5030.JPG This is how Texas was able to get him back in so quickly. Add this to the new helmets Texas wears and I'd say Herman and Texas is better equipped than any school in the country. Correct, and that's what many of these experts have an issue with. Eye-sync has already proven to not be completely accurate for immediate diagnosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 It was like 4th and 13 and he had already scrambled backwards at least 10 yards. He could've tried to run for it but he's not VY, so he won't be picking up that 1st down. He could've chunked it deep and maybe drawn a PI or had it picked. He threw it away and saved as much time as possible. Texas got a quick 3&out and had one more drive. I think he made the best decision. I disagree, always give yourself the chance to stay on offense in that situation. If there's a pick it's no different than a punt, defense can pin them deep or you might get the PI call on the pass. I know the kid isn't VY, far from it. The defense had already done plenty keeping OU to 29 pts, albeit 14 came off poor coverage. The fact is that giving up on the play conceded that drive. That throw oob allowed OU to flip the field on them when the defense held. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I thought that's what Ehlinger said in his post game comments. That the medical staff had him lie as still as possible while they checked for a neck or spine issue. You guys watch that mess... I am only speaking to the comments made on this thread regarding what I know of how injuries are approached. If he was being checked for neck injuries rather than head, then it makes sense on why he was released back so quickly. Until there is a complete summary of the events from the school, it will leave the door open to speculation on the event. But if he was being checked for a head injury I would say "the process was too quick." If it was for something else, I am cool with it... You can determine a serious spinal injury in seconds... A concussion takes a good 10-15 minutes to make a 100% clear decision (IMHO) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I disagree, always give yourself the chance to stay on offense in that situation. If there's a pick it's no different than a punt, defense can pin them deep or you might get the PI call on the pass. I know the kid isn't VY, far from it. The defense had already done plenty keeping OU to 29 pts, albeit 14 came off poor coverage. The fact is that giving up on the play conceded that drive. That throw oob allowed OU to flip the field on them when the defense held. Unrelated to situation you are speaking of but interesting in a standpoint of today's QBs... I was listening to Spurrier this morning and he actually said something that was more eye-popping than entertaining for once... He said "One of the problems with QBs these days is that they fall sideways when they get tackled instead of forwards for the extra 1-2 yards that can go a long way in determining a 1st down." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 I disagree, always give yourself the chance to stay on offense in that situation. If there's a pick it's no different than a punt, defense can pin them deep or you might get the PI call on the pass. I know the kid isn't VY, far from it. The defense had already done plenty keeping OU to 29 pts, albeit 14 came off poor coverage. The fact is that giving up on the play conceded that drive. That throw oob allowed OU to flip the field on them when the defense held. Ehhh, he could've thrown it up and had it picked. Which could've been returned for a TD, effectively ending the game. Ou flipped the field because of a holding call on the punt and Reggie fair caught it at the 10! I understand your point and it's valid. I just think more could've gone wrong than good if he chunks it deep. In the end what he did do allowed us to get the ball back and have a chance at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Ehhh, he could've thrown it up and had it picked. Which could've been returned for a TD, effectively ending the game. Ou flipped the field because of a holding call on the punt and Reggie fair caught it at the 10! I understand your point and it's valid. I just think more could've gone wrong than good if he chunks it deep. In the end what he did do allowed us to get the ball back and have a chance at the end. Defenses should be taught to knock the ball down. I have to give kudos to the defense for getting them the ball back, but I move forward using that situation as a learning experience for the freshman. I'd tell him to keep the play alive. If it's completed they accept the penalty and you have one more play I personally think that with over a minute to go and OU in prevent I'd have hit them with a RB screen. It had worked all game. Sometimes beck makes you scratch your head 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I personally think that with over a minute to go and OU in prevent I'd have hit them with a RB screen. It had worked all game. Sometimes beck makes you scratch your head That's what I was saying too. I wonder how many times we got to 2nd and 8 by doing the same read play when the screen was working great. The running game is nonexistent, yet Beck still wants to run the ball on every first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 That's what I was saying too. I wonder how many times we got to 2nd and 8 by doing the same read play when the screen was working great. The running game is nonexistent, yet Beck still wants to run the ball on every first down. That was Texas' biggest issue. 2nd and long every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 That's what I was saying too. I wonder how many times we got to 2nd and 8 by doing the same read play when the screen was working great. The running game is nonexistent, yet Beck still wants to run the ball on every first down. What gets me is Carter comes in the game and you can see the defense has to respect his speed. They run the zone play a couple times, Carter got maybe 3-4 then ehlinger gets a first down. A few passes and Texas starts putting together a drive. The defense accounts for Carter's speed, has to. Then they pull Carter for warren I think and the drive starts folding. It's like they don't want Carter or the offense to succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 That was Texas' biggest issue. 2nd and long every time. Every time. So frustrating to watch. What gets me is Carter comes in the game and you can see the defense has to respect his speed. They run the zone play a couple times, Carter got maybe 3-4 then ehlinger gets a first down. A few passes and Texas starts putting together a drive. The defense accounts for Carter's speed, has to. Then they pull Carter for warren I think and the drive starts folding. It's like they don't want Carter or the offense to succeed It's like they don't know how to keep the rhythm going. They throw Warren in there and it messes up the flow. Only use Warren for goal line or those underneath passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Ehhh, he could've thrown it up and had it picked. Which could've been returned for a TD, effectively ending the game. Ou flipped the field because of a holding call on the punt and Reggie fair caught it at the 10! I understand your point and it's valid. I just think more could've gone wrong than good if he chunks it deep. In the end what he did do allowed us to get the ball back and have a chance at the end. Herman said the same thing, that he asked Sam why he threw the ball away and Sam mentioned the flag. He said it was a teaching moment for the freshman and said he told him to never throw the ball away on 4th down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 If Texas would call more plays down field on 1st and 2nd down, they may not have so many 3rd and longs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 If Texas would call more plays down field on 1st and 2nd down, they may not have so many 3rd and longs. They are playing OSUs offense perfectly so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatbambino Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 They are playing OSUs offense perfectly so farYou jinxed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 My biggest gripe about the Texas offense is everything takes forever to develop. Nothing quick strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 My biggest gripe about the Texas offense is everything takes forever to develop. Nothing quick strike Their possessions are so short, but their plays take long to develop. It's just a bad offense. This is going to get ugly I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Talk about walking a tightrope! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Talk about walking a tightrope!That was nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Herman better sign 10 new OL. These guys #### Take the sack Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Beck knows the best personnel Texas has is the defense. That must be why he wants them back on the field with 2:00 to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Becks best play is when the receivers are covered and the line doesn't block and Sam picks up the first down He needs to call it more lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Cuney at RG is brutal. He was better at center vs KSU. This defense is so much better at tackling than they have been in the last 8 years! Really need a good scoring drive to open the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatbambino Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 7-7 at the half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Iowa State will be bowl eligible before Texas. Let that sink in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatbambino Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Iowa State will be bowl eligible before Texas. Let that sink inSaid this in the other thread, I'm just glad Texas got passed them with a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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