SmoakyBandito Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 You have to have the Jimmy and Joe's along with the x's and o's. It's pretty simple, both can make each other look a whole lot better.Exactly, either one by themselves can win you some games, but that's it. Great coaching can make little Jimmy and Joey look a heck of a lot better. And a team full of studs can make a decent coach look like Belichek. You put both together and you get something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnclePig Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Mathis is the 3rd one I was referring to pulling his name out. Success many times is relative to where you are.+10,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 He was a football assistant too Most are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanGreenDogs64 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 And as far as D1 talent every year, that's not the case. Take this year for example. Peyton Bickham (football), East Texas Baptist James Ebarb (football), East Texas Baptist Tanner Elliott (football), Tyler Junior College Tre Gatlin (football), Navarro College Nic Moore (football), Tyler Junior College Austin Russell (football), Tyler Junior College We might see some of these young men at a D1 university after JUCO, but Surratt lead this team to a state title without 1 D1 Senior on the team. In fact we have only had 1 young man sign a D1 LOI since 2014, and that was to UTSA last year. During those 3 years Carthage still has a 30-12 overall record and 11-2 record in the playoffs. Won 2 region 3 championships, and a state title. This would be in what can be considered a "down" time athlete wise over those 3 years. A great coach does not need D1 talent to have success. Now give a great coach D1 talent, and they will dominate. That is not a logical argument. The JUCO kids would have went D1 if they got the job done in the classroom. Also, you have the number 1 RB in the class of 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider1 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Surratt is a great coach. Carthage has been blessed with great athletes and has a great set up as far as the district they are in and the opponents they match up with in the playoffs. Carthage as a whole is in a unique situation. That's most likely why Surratt hasn't left. He knows it would be hard to re create what they have in Carthage. Gilmer is another situation that's unique. It takes more than just great coaching or just athletes to go deep in the playoffs and have a chance at winning state year in and year out. Both of those places have great set ups all the way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider1 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 That is not a logical argument. The JUCO kids would have went D1 if they got the job done in the classroom. Also, you have the number 1 RB in the class of 2018. And yes having the #1 RB in the state helps too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Calling Surratt a "good" coach is a pretty big understatement. Before Surratt showed up Carthage would have a kid go D1 every 4-5 years. A couple kids would go to Kilgore or TJC every year. When you win, the recruiters will come. We have always had the same talent level at Carthage. These are the same kids we have always had. They are just coached up and fully bought into the program now. And as far as D1 talent every year, that's not the case. Take this year for example. Peyton Bickham (football), East Texas Baptist James Ebarb (football), East Texas Baptist Tanner Elliott (football), Tyler Junior College Tre Gatlin (football), Navarro College Nic Moore (football), Tyler Junior College Austin Russell (football), Tyler Junior College We might see some of these young men at a D1 university after JUCO, but Surratt lead this team to a state title without 1 D1 Senior on the team. In fact we have only had 1 young man sign a D1 LOI since 2014, and that was to UTSA last year. During those 3 years Carthage still has a 30-12 overall record and 11-2 record in the playoffs. Won 2 region 3 championships, and a state title. This would be in what can be considered a "down" time athlete wise over those 3 years. A great coach does not need D1 talent to have success. Now give a great coach D1 talent, and they will dominate. That's great and all, but Surratt isn't coming to Marshall, so let's let this topic live on in a different thread... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoakyBandito Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Saw where Hines committed to LSU. I was looking, and it looks like Marshall is gonna have an awesome o-line next year. Couple other potential D1 guys. That is a 1st year coaches dream. You can do alot of things when you win up front. Looks like that will be a huge strength for the Mavs next year. Definely going to make a coaches job alot easier on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Calling Surratt a "good" coach is a pretty big understatement. Before Surratt showed up Carthage would have a kid go D1 every 4-5 years. A couple kids would go to Kilgore or TJC every year. When you win, the recruiters will come. We have always had the same talent level at Carthage. These are the same kids we have always had. They are just coached up and fully bought into the program now. And as far as D1 talent every year, that's not the case. Take this year for example. Peyton Bickham (football), East Texas Baptist James Ebarb (football), East Texas Baptist Tanner Elliott (football), Tyler Junior College Tre Gatlin (football), Navarro College Nic Moore (football), Tyler Junior College Austin Russell (football), Tyler Junior College We might see some of these young men at a D1 university after JUCO, but Surratt lead this team to a state title without 1 D1 Senior on the team. In fact we have only had 1 young man sign a D1 LOI since 2014, and that was to UTSA last year. During those 3 years Carthage still has a 30-12 overall record and 11-2 record in the playoffs. Won 2 region 3 championships, and a state title. This would be in what can be considered a "down" time athlete wise over those 3 years. A great coach does not need D1 talent to have success. Now give a great coach D1 talent, and they will dominate. I bolded this out because he was committed to Wyoming forever. So he did have a D1 player on the team that was a senior. Now back to the topic for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoakyBandito Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I bolded this out because he was committed to Wyoming forever. So he did have a D1 player on the team that was a senior. Now back to the topic for me. I was already told to get back on topic. So I haven't responded to any of the post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 That's great and all, but Surratt isn't coming to Marshall, so let's let this topic live on in a different thread... But could a Surratt disciple¿ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 But could a Surratt disciple¿ I'd be okay with that if he has a plan in place that he can execute. It needs to start in 7th grade and finish at the varsity level. I want someone who is more than a perceived winner. I want someone who made other guys winners. If this person help make Surratt a winner with some of his ideas and learned from Surratt in return, then he would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlingIt Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Carthage coach is not going to Marshall . He is going further north . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDeleto Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Any news on Marshall job yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLineEATS Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 This one has gone silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Interviews for the 3 finalists are this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavs03 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Way to many rumors/speculation going on around town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoakyBandito Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Does anybody actually know the final 3 or just speculation? Seems like this one has been all over the place. This is one of the top 10 jobs in ETX, as far as football is concerned. I would think there was plenty of quality applicants. Hope Marshall gets their guy. ETX football as a whole is a heck of a lot better when Marshall is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Sounds like we will slowly be able to confirm the 3 finalists as they interview this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlingIt Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 My mistake . Carthage coach going east . I said north in previous post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 My mistake . Carthage coach going east . I said north in previous post I-20 east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoakyBandito Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 My mistake . Carthage coach going east . I said north in previous postSo he is going to Lousiana to coach? You can't get anymore East than Carthage unless you are talking Waskom. Or is DeBerry getting a team? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Lol. That's what I was thinking. Not much East on 20.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLineEATS Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Keechi!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider1 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 One thing for sure is nobody can say they rushed through this process. Texas High, Hallsville, Chapel Hill, Mineola, etc have all been quicker than this process. Hopefully they find the guy they are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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