badblackcat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Brady played good? He moves to 3 on my list now. Receivers have to catch passes that hit them in the hands in the 4th quarter. Aaron Rodgers just recc'd this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Brady played good? He moves to 3 on my list now. Receivers have to catch passes that hit them in the hands in the 4th quarter. And the QB has to not make bonehead plays that leads to an interception, just because he can't handle the rush. Here's the difference I saw between the two QB's tonight, When Eli was getting rushed (which happened A Lot!), he stuck in there and delivered the ball. If the receiver wasn't open, he ate the sack and prevented turnovers. When Brady was getting rushed (and even when he wasn't), the guy was fending for his life and trying to force something that wasn't there. Sorry, but that is NOT what an all time great QB does. Personally, I'd say that Eli is coming reaaallllly close to passing Brady on my All Time list (even he hasn't already)....and don't be surprised if you start hearing that same thing from others either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 And the QB has to not make bonehead plays that leads to an interception, just because he can't handle the rush. Here's the difference I saw between the two QB's tonight, When Eli was getting rushed (which happened A Lot!), he stuck in there and delivered the ball. If the receiver wasn't open, he ate the sack and prevented turnovers. When Brady was getting rushed (and even when he wasn't), the guy was fending for his life and trying to force something that wasn't there. Sorry, but that is NOT what an all time great QB does. Personally, I'd say that Eli is coming reaaallllly close to passing Brady on my All Time list (even he hasn't already)....and don't be surprised if you start hearing that same thing from others either. Lol if you think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Lol if you think so. Lol, I do. Look, Brady's place in history is mostly due to his first 5 years in the league. Since then, tell me seriously what he's done that's been better than any other QB in the league. Eli on the other hand, has been one of the most successful QB's for the last 5 years (and that's coming from a Cowboys fan, lol). The guy just helped lead his team to yet another SB over the "beloved" Brady with a 9-7 season for Pete's sake. All he now needs is one more to equal Brady for rings. So tell me, seriously, wth has Brady done or have that still makes him better than Eli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Lol, I do. Look, Brady's place in history is mostly due to his first 5 years in the league. Since then, tell me seriously what he's done that's been better than any other QB in the league. Eli on the other hand, has been one of the most successful QB's for the last 5 years (and that's coming from a Cowboys fan, lol). The guy just helped lead his team to yet another SB over the "beloved" Brady with a 9-7 season for Pete's sake. All he now needs is one more to equal Brady for rings. So tell me, seriously, wth has Brady done or have that still makes him better than Eli? He's been beaten twice by Eli et al now. I watched portions of last nights game, and I have to agree with his wife. I would still take Brady over Montana or either Manning in any fantasy draft. These would be my top 5 picks for quarterback going into a Super Bowl or any important game : 1. Roger Staubach 2. Bart Starr 3. Otto Graham 4. Tom Brady 5. Joe Montana The "Elite" Quarterbacks that would be at the bottom of my list : 1. Jim Kelley 2. Fran Tarkenton 3. Brett Favre 4. Peyton Manning 5. Drew Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Lol, I do. Look, Brady's place in history is mostly due to his first 5 years in the league. Since then, tell me seriously what he's done that's been better than any other QB in the league. Eli on the other hand, has been one of the most successful QB's for the last 5 years (and that's coming from a Cowboys fan, lol). The guy just helped lead his team to yet another SB over the "beloved" Brady with a 9-7 season for Pete's sake. All he now needs is one more to equal Brady for rings. So tell me, seriously, wth has Brady done or have that still makes him better than Eli? 2 MVPs, only missing the playoffs one season of his career he has actually played. That's just off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclejohn Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 2 MVPs, only missing the playoffs one season of his career he has actually played. That's just off the top of my head. 0-2 since spy gate???? I'm sure them tapes helped them with their 3 SBs they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 0-2 since spy gate???? I'm sure them tapes helped them with their 3 SBs they won. Sorry but I find it hard to believe that every team didn't tape stuff and Mangini was just throwing a hissy fit. Besides the 2 MVPs and his better seasons are after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 0-2 since spy gate???? I'm sure them tapes helped them with their 3 SBs they won. Sorry but I find it hard to believe that every team didn't tape stuff and Mangini was just throwing a hissy fit. Besides the 2 MVPs and his better seasons are after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclejohn Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Sorry but I find it hard to believe that every team didn't tape stuff and Mangini was just throwing a hissy fit. Besides the 2 MVPs and his better seasons are after that. Well they got caught. Similar to college football. We all know everybody pays kids. Too bad it's the Miamis and SMUs that only get caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 He's been beaten twice by Eli et al now. I watched portions of last nights game, and I have to agree with his wife. I would still take Brady over Montana or either Manning in any fantasy draft. These would be my top 5 picks for quarterback going into a Super Bowl or any important game : 1. Roger Staubach 2. Bart Starr 3. Otto Graham 4. Tom Brady 5. Joe Montana The "Elite" Quarterbacks that would be at the bottom of my list : 1. Jim Kelley 2. Fran Tarkenton 3. Brett Favre 4. Peyton Manning 5. Drew Brees .......excuse me, but you left off the most important name with a great track record in important games......Johnny Unitas !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 .......excuse me, but you left off the most important name with a great track record in important games......Johnny Unitas !! He's actually #6 on my list, but I decided to only do a top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclejohn Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Surprised Lobo hasn't posted since he wanted this thread up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Surprised Lobo hasn't posted since he wanted this thread up. LOL...I just saw it. For the record, I was being sarcastic, lol. As for the answer to the thread, I don't think so. I saw a comment on the other thread about how he was a great passer, but not a great QB. I would disagree. Whether he was great because of his timing, accuracy, or whatever, the guy was still one of the best even though he never had playmakers around him. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but for anyone who thinks he was overrated, I would challenge them to name just 3 WR's that ever played with him...rhetorical of course. You don't have to list them here, none of us will have no way of knowing if you went and looked them up first. But just think to yourself, and see if you can name just 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 LOL...I just saw it. For the record, I was being sarcastic, lol. As for the answer to the thread, I don't think so. I saw a comment on the other thread about how he was a great passer, but not a great QB. I would disagree. Whether he was great because of his timing, accuracy, or whatever, the guy was still one of the best even though he never had playmakers around him. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but for anyone who thinks he was overrated, I would challenge them to name just 3 WR's that ever played with him...rhetorical of course. You don't have to list them here, none of us will have no way of knowing if you went and looked them up first. But just think to yourself, and see if you can name just 3! Marino had solid receivers with Duper and Clayton. He never really had a running game to go to, which may have hurt him. Marino doesn't crack my top 10 of greatest NFL quarterbacks. He had a lot of yards passing, but that doesn't make you a great quarterback. Overall, I'd say he is overrated having only gone to the Super Bowl his rookie season. I think this clip fits Dan Marino : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 lol....................................i thought we already covered this subject? Everyone but Tony Romo is overrated. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badblackcat Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 He had 4-5 terrific years, some were mind-blowing years. He had quite a few years that were strictly average. Dan Marino statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 He had 4-5 terrific years, some were mind-blowing years. He had quite a few years that were strictly average. Dan Marino statistics ^ Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclejohn Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 ^ Me too! Would you consider yourself over or under rated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Would you consider yourself over or under rated? Over rated by a furlong! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylews8973 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 He had 4-5 terrific years, some were mind-blowing years. He had quite a few years that were strictly average. Dan Marino statistics Just read his stats, and noticed...his middle name is Constantine!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 He is better then any of us and about 90% of his follow NFLers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I have always said, Marino was a great passer, not a great quarterback. There is a big difference. In my opinion, Marino is far and away the most over rated quarterback in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylews8973 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I have always said, Marion was a great passer, not a great quarterback. There is a big difference. In my opinion, Marino is far and away the most over rated quarterback in NFL history. Wow really? More overrated than Joe Namath??? I don't see it, man. The guy never had much talent around him offensively, the Marks bros were pretty good, probably more Marino making them great than the other way around, never had any semblance of running game (finally got a 1,000 yard rusher in '96 i believe), and had very average defenses at best. So to say he was overrated just doesn't seem fair to me. Not disrespecting your opinion, I just don't see why you feel that way about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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