TTman7 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I haven't heard anything... including who all is on the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrclean69 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 19 hours ago, yellowdawg3 said: Did they promote within for AD? Baseball Coach... They are probably getting horrible applicants. I would hate to be head football coach and answer to another guy on staff who's main sport isn't even football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowdawg3 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Wow! Sounds like the Bonham gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelion Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, yellowdawg3 said: Wow! Sounds like the Bonham gig. Yes sir an he has to answer to the Girls Coord. as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 And they graduated a TON!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, playactionpass39 said: And they graduated a TON!!! Yea, had 14 Seniors I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBallCoach Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Yea I couldn't imagaine working at a school where the football coach didn't hold all the power. It would be terrible to work for someone who coached another sport and wants all sports to win, instead of just the 10 that football plays. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrclean69 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewBallCoach said: Yea I couldn't imagaine working at a school where the football coach didn't hold all the power. It would be terrible to work for someone who coached another sport and wants all sports to win, instead of just the 10 that football plays. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? Football takes way more preparation and time on the head coaches part. Trying to do that and a class would be ridiculous. It has more inventory needs, most paper work, and is the toughest to win. Its also the easiest to get fired from when you don't produce. Also, I hate the argument that putting someone that is not head football helps "all sports win". That's just stupid. You think a baseball coach will care about all sports more than a football coach? No. He'll care about baseball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger94 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Will OC get promoted to HFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 And with Realignment, this JOB just became much harder to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavfanpanamacity Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Coplin went to Ark, all of his staff are Texas High School coaches and are invested in the Texas Teachers retirement. Going to another state, like Ark would mess that up. They ain't following him up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magellan44 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 HFC won't have to report to the boys coordinator, he'd just report the supe and HS principal. Looks like that'd reduce any friction if they'd have answer to the baseball coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Magellan44 said: HFC won't have to report to the boys coordinator, he'd just report the supe and HS principal. Looks like that'd reduce any friction if they'd have answer to the baseball coach. How do you know this info? Speculation or "fact"? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger94 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Magellan44 said: HFC won't have to report to the boys coordinator, he'd just report the supe and HS principal. Looks like that'd reduce any friction if they'd have answer to the baseball coach. How will that even work?!?!? Whose in charge then? How do they decide things like strength and conditioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magellan44 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just now, 4to3 said: It’s stated on the job posting at the ISD web. Truth, HFC would still be in charge of offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyenut24 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 20 hours ago, mrclean69 said: Football takes way more preparation and time on the head coaches part. Trying to do that and a class would be ridiculous. It has more inventory needs, most paper work, and is the toughest to win. Its also the easiest to get fired from when you don't produce. Also, I hate the argument that putting someone that is not head football helps "all sports win". That's just stupid. You think a baseball coach will care about all sports more than a football coach? No. He'll care about baseball. The assumption here is that the baseball coach is no more willing to work with the football coach than traditionally the football coach is willing to work with other sports. Maybe the school district is looking to find the best fit for each assignment. When you have the HFC/AD in a small school setting, every time the HFC moves on, there is always jeopardy for all the other HC of the other sports they may lose their job because they are expendable and not wanted on the new staff. That is not fair to the other coaches nor the student athletes. This is "out-of-the-box" and will take a team effort to work, but it could be what's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrclean69 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, buckeyenut24 said: The assumption here is that the baseball coach is no more willing to work with the football coach than traditionally the football coach is willing to work with other sports. Maybe the school district is looking to find the best fit for each assignment. When you have the HFC/AD in a small school setting, every time the HFC moves on, there is always jeopardy for all the other HC of the other sports they may lose their job because they are expendable and not wanted on the new staff. That is not fair to the other coaches nor the student athletes. This is "out-of-the-box" and will take a team effort to work, but it could be what's best. I understand why. This thought of stability outside of football, but it will hurt your stability in football. To think this won't worsen your applicants is ridiculous. Also, if I am a good football coach and have success at Diana, why wouldn't I leave for an AD/HFC job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Cogburn Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 The biggest problem with the AD being from another sport is off-season..Not all coaches believe that weight room and track is needed for their sports to be successful...mainly basketball and some baseball...so when it comes down to final decisions of how to and who will be in the weight room they will always pull their kids out 1st..then its a domino effect..other kids see to get out of extra work is to play those sports..so imo it does not work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBallCoach Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I'm sure they did their research and asked questions about weightroom philosophy before they "gave" it to the head baseball coach. I know alot of baseball coaches who believe in the weightroom, it's usually the basketball guys that don't believe they need weights. I also didn't say head football coaches don't want other sports to win, but I've also seen HFC/ADs lift other sports heavy on game days and not give a #### about the other coach's sport. Maybe this works, maybe it doesn't, but I don't see it being any worse than a traditional AD. I'm not trying to argue, this is just my opinion. I guess you could say I've seen friends of mine get screwed a few times, Starting Pitcher jammed finger running routes on game day and couldn't grip a baseball, starting catcher sore from maxing on squat on game day and couldn't move behind the plate, and a leadoff hitter/CF pulling his hamstring running routes on game day. Also the it's tougher to win argument doesn't make sense, winning always takes preparation and doesn't come easy. And as far as not being able to answer to a coach who's main sport isn't football, well if it's your job to answer to that guy, then you better or you're looking for a new place. Every other coach answers to football coach's and in case some of you didn't know, all coaches don't love football. I love football but not everyone does. Also, studies show football numbers are on the way down even in this state. So this may be a growing trend. https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/texas-high-school-football/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyenut24 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 32 minutes ago, NewBallCoach said: I'm sure they did their research and asked questions about weightroom philosophy before they "gave" it to the head baseball coach. I know alot of baseball coaches who believe in the weightroom, it's usually the basketball guys that don't believe they need weights. I also didn't say head football coaches don't want other sports to win, but I've also seen HFC/ADs lift other sports heavy on game days and not give a #### about the other coach's sport. Maybe this works, maybe it doesn't, but I don't see it being any worse than a traditional AD. I'm not trying to argue, this is just my opinion. I guess you could say I've seen friends of mine get screwed a few times, Starting Pitcher jammed finger running routes on game day and couldn't grip a baseball, starting catcher sore from maxing on squat on game day and couldn't move behind the plate, and a leadoff hitter/CF pulling his hamstring running routes on game day. Also the it's tougher to win argument doesn't make sense, winning always takes preparation and doesn't come easy. And as far as not being able to answer to a coach who's main sport isn't football, well if it's your job to answer to that guy, then you better or you're looking for a new place. Every other coach answers to football coach's and in case some of you didn't know, all coaches don't love football. I love football but not everyone does. Also, studies show football numbers are on the way down even in this state. So this may be a growing trend. https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/texas-high-school-football/ All great points. Bottom line an AD needs to be a good administrator and leader. The traditional model may have that combo and to be honest many do not. Just being a good HFC doesnt mean you will be about leading the other coaches or athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Nick2011 said: According to Matt Stepp, pending board approval Feb 12 New Diana will promote OC Travis Chrisman to Head Coach. Yes Sir. I saw that too. Probably a good move. Will keep some stability in the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsguru02 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 1:51 PM, NewBallCoach said: I'm sure they did their research and asked questions about weightroom philosophy before they "gave" it to the head baseball coach. I know alot of baseball coaches who believe in the weightroom, it's usually the basketball guys that don't believe they need weights. I also didn't say head football coaches don't want other sports to win, but I've also seen HFC/ADs lift other sports heavy on game days and not give a #### about the other coach's sport. Maybe this works, maybe it doesn't, but I don't see it being any worse than a traditional AD. I'm not trying to argue, this is just my opinion. I guess you could say I've seen friends of mine get screwed a few times, Starting Pitcher jammed finger running routes on game day and couldn't grip a baseball, starting catcher sore from maxing on squat on game day and couldn't move behind the plate, and a leadoff hitter/CF pulling his hamstring running routes on game day. Also the it's tougher to win argument doesn't make sense, winning always takes preparation and doesn't come easy. And as far as not being able to answer to a coach who's main sport isn't football, well if it's your job to answer to that guy, then you better or you're looking for a new place. Every other coach answers to football coach's and in case some of you didn't know, all coaches don't love football. I love football but not everyone does. Also, studies show football numbers are on the way down even in this state. So this may be a growing trend. https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/texas-high-school-football/ I agree with you 100 percent a lot of these schools only care about football and I think it’s wrong to make kids that are playing basketball baseball or any other sports lift on game days and then expect them to perform the same way they would if they didn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnclePig Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 1:51 PM, NewBallCoach said: I'm sure they did their research and asked questions about weightroom philosophy before they "gave" it to the head baseball coach. I know alot of baseball coaches who believe in the weightroom, it's usually the basketball guys that don't believe they need weights. I also didn't say head football coaches don't want other sports to win, but I've also seen HFC/ADs lift other sports heavy on game days and not give a #### about the other coach's sport. Maybe this works, maybe it doesn't, but I don't see it being any worse than a traditional AD. I'm not trying to argue, this is just my opinion. I guess you could say I've seen friends of mine get screwed a few times, Starting Pitcher jammed finger running routes on game day and couldn't grip a baseball, starting catcher sore from maxing on squat on game day and couldn't move behind the plate, and a leadoff hitter/CF pulling his hamstring running routes on game day. Also the it's tougher to win argument doesn't make sense, winning always takes preparation and doesn't come easy. And as far as not being able to answer to a coach who's main sport isn't football, well if it's your job to answer to that guy, then you better or you're looking for a new place. Every other coach answers to football coach's and in case some of you didn't know, all coaches don't love football. I love football but not everyone does. Also, studies show football numbers are on the way down even in this state. So this may be a growing trend. https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/texas-high-school-football/ Sounds to me like you need to move out of Texas chief. Football is king here and it will still be king when you and I are pushing up tulips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnclePig Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Sportsguru02 said: I agree with you 100 percent a lot of these schools only care about football and I think it’s wrong to make kids that are playing basketball baseball or any other sports lift on game days and then expect them to perform the same way they would if they didn’t Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant lifted on gameday; from the looks of MLB players these days, I’m fairly certain they lift on game day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Sportsguru02 said: I agree with you 100 percent a lot of these schools only care about football and I think it’s wrong to make kids that are playing basketball baseball or any other sports lift on game days and then expect them to perform the same way they would if they didn’t Unless you are a pitcher or a catcher then it is perfectly fine for you to lift weights on a baseball game day. I wouldn’t do it if I had high school athletics last period, but if you lift weights at 11 then you will be fine by 6:30 to play a baseball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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