LSUTIGERS Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Pax said: You could say the exact same about everyone else on Newton's schedule. Every team Newton played this year would have allowed more points if they had played the same nondistrict schedule, so it's really irrelevant. It's why those games are not included. I'm not gonna make up numbers or speculate about what would have happened if only this or that. Just ignore him. He’s been riding Newton’s jock for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, LSUTIGERS said: Just ignore him. He’s been riding Newton’s jock for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSUTIGERS Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, JETT said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, LSUTIGERS said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCU44 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Newton by 40 why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastTxFinest Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, LSUTIGERS said: Just ignore him. He’s been riding Newton’s jock for years! Riding? He sleeps with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastTxFinest Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Newton by as much as they want. Don't them off or they'll open up a can of whoop ####. Trust me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pax said: You could say the exact same about everyone else on Newton's schedule. Every team Newton played this year would have allowed more points if they had played the same nondistrict schedule, so it's really irrelevant. It's why those games are not included. I'm not gonna make up numbers or speculate about what would have happened if only this or that. All I'm saying is that EB hasn't played anywhere near as tough a schedule as Newton ... if they had their 8.6 ppg on defense would be a lot higher ... pretty simple ... and no, EB won't be the best defense Newton has faced ... Edited December 12, 2018 by KirtFalcon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles97 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 hours ago, BiggieSmalls said: No! You drink at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: All I'm saying is that EB hasn't played anywhere near as tough a schedule as Newton ... if they had their 8.6 ppg on defense would be a lot higher ... pretty simple ... and no, EB won't be the best defense Newton has faced ... I watched the WOS game with Newton and that has been about the only team that gave Newton a game and that was on a rainy muddy field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: All I'm saying is that EB hasn't played anywhere near as tough a schedule as Newton ... if they had their 8.6 ppg on defense would be a lot higher ... pretty simple ... and no, EB won't be the best defense Newton has faced ... This is precisely why I was explicit in qualifying my statement with "since district has started" and "from a points per game perspective". I understand there are other factors at play, but I go by numbers. That's my thing.. You are free to use whatever metric you prefer, but what I said is factually 100% accurate. It is an objective truth. As far as the subjective goes, according to Pigskin, East Bernard had the 9th toughest schedule in the state. Newton, the 14th toughest - and this includes predistrict games as well. Also, the next best defense Newton will have played gave up 18.2 ppg. I have a hard time believing that EB would have given up 140 more points this year if they had played Newton's schedule instead, especially considering that I'm sure you would argue that the team that gave up 18.2 would have ALSO given up more if only they had the unprecedentedly tough schedule Newton had, but your opinion is different and that's fine. It happens. This whole thing is just fun for me. My convictions on the quality of every defense Newton has played are not deep enough to merit my engaging in an opinion-based debate which is why I'm very careful with my wording when stating things as fact. And in this case, what I said is a fact. It's not debatable. You are talking about something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 It's a flawed theory using raw numbers. Even using your "qualifying" scenario, EB will not be the best defense Newton has faced so far ... EB plays in weaker region ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: It's a flawed theory using raw numbers. Even using your "qualifying" scenario, EB will not be the best defense Newton has faced so far ... EB plays in weaker region ... Then just dont endorse my numbers. I will take no offense. Problem solved... I will point out though that also according to Pigskin, region III is the weakest of the four. That's not my opinion, just a demonstration that your claim is subjective - and as I've pointed out, I dont care enough about this game to get into an opinion-based debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, Pax said: Then just dont endorse my numbers. I will take no offense. Problem solved... I will point out though that also according to Pigskin, region III is the weakest of the four. That's not my opinion, just a demonstration that your claim is subjective - and as I've pointed out, I dont care enough about this game to get into an opinion-based debate. ...... ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatonloose Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, Pax said: Then just dont endorse my numbers. I will take no offense. Problem solved... I will point out though that also according to Pigskin, region III is the weakest of the four. That's not my opinion, just a demonstration that your claim is subjective - and as I've pointed out, I dont care enough about this game to get into an opinion-based debate. Don't let kirt get to you....he thinks he knows everything...someone once told me he was a cheerleader in high school...that explains why he can't comprehend your analysis of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSUTIGERS Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Tomcatonloose said: Don't let kirt get to you....he thinks he knows everything...someone once told me he was a cheerleader in high school...that explains why he can't comprehend your analysis of the game. He also doesn’t know if he’s a Dawg or a Cat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, Tomcatonloose said: Don't let kirt get to you....he thinks he knows everything...someone once told me he was a cheerleader in high school...that explains why he can't comprehend your analysis of the game. Oh, he isn't getting to me, but thanks! Someone asked me to do my breakdown for this game, and I appreciate that people like it. I was gonna do it anyway, but being asked to is a compliment. I dont understand why anyone would get all bent out of shape about it - especially considering how generous I was with my appreciation for what Newton has put together this year so far. I mean, I predicted Newton to put up 56 points. Youd think it should be 90 the way he is acting, but to each his own I guess. This is all just good fun for me, but I appreciate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyw Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, Pax said: Oh, he isn't getting to me, but thanks! Someone asked me to do my breakdown for this game, and I appreciate that people like it. I was gonna do it anyway, but being asked to is a compliment. I dont understand why anyone would get all bent out of shape about it - especially considering how generous I was with my appreciation for what Newton has put together this year so far. I mean, I predicted Newton to put up 56 points. Youd think it should be 90 the way he is acting, but to each his own I guess. This is all just good fun for me, but I appreciate it. I enjoy your breakdowns. I don't know how well Newton will do against East Bernard . They win ugly, not flashy just three yards and a cloud of dust. teams that play that way seem to be hard to measure just how good they are. I feel this will be a tight game for my Eagles or a pure blowout. I think the Brahmas are better than most think. I know the teams they have already played know how good they are. Anyway i just want my Eagles to win by one point or more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuleSlicks Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: All I'm saying is that EB hasn't played anywhere near as tough a schedule as Newton ... if they had their 8.6 ppg on defense would be a lot higher ... pretty simple ... and no, EB won't be the best defense Newton has faced ... My Tigers took a beatdown from those purple yard-birds like never before. It don't mater who's played who, they will stump break those humped back steers, and have steaks for dinner the next day. Newton 63 - 14. Just saying... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armchair Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 10 hours ago, LSUTIGERS said: He also doesn’t know if he’s a Dawg or a Cat! .....or a bird. 🦅 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSports7711 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 The bottom line is Newton has scored an average of 69 points in their 4 playoff games while only giving up 7.8. They also played has tough has a preseason schedule that you could ask for. Heck Silsbee is in the 4A div 2 State Semi's. West Orange-Stark went 2 rounds, Gilmer - 2 rounds. ( All 4A div 2 teams). And and the second place team out of their district , Corrigan-Camden went 3 rounds deep. They put up 79 points on Dangerfield in the quarter final game. 79 points in basically 3 quarters, since they started kicking field goals on 1st down. That is unheard of. No disrespect to East Bernard but it will not be a close game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastTurtle Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, BearDawg said: The bottom line is Newton has scored an average of 69 points in their 4 playoff games while only giving up 7.8. They also played has tough has a preseason schedule that you could ask for. Heck Silsbee is in the 4A div 2 State Semi's. West Orange-Stark went 2 rounds, Gilmer - 2 rounds. ( All 4A div 2 teams). And and the second place team out of their district , Corrigan-Camden went 3 rounds deep. They put up 79 points on Dangerfield in the quarter final game. 79 points in basically 3 quarters, since they started kicking field goals on 1st down. That is unheard of. No disrespect to East Bernard but it will not be a close game. WOS went (4) rounds deep and Gilmer went (3) rounds deep this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 What none of the people on here realize is the boys from Newton are not playing for themselves, and a ring. They are to a man playing for their coach Johnston 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtonres7586 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 A new rookie has arrived - please be kind lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevSandman Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, Newtonres7586 said: A new rookie has arrived - please be kind lol Bless his heart!!!!! NEWTON! #55 c/o 79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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