H3llR4z0r Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, 01Tigers said: Let the kids play, if they moved to Texas became residents so be it. Hughes Springs has a huge hand in this as they have others as well. I have heard more factual talk from people concerning the superintendent and AD and it all looks to be true. Worry about what is covered up in your district before treading onto others. Spoken like a true homer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, bordertown said: If someone wants to move 900 miles for athletic purposes... who cares. I think the abuse is someone moving 50 miles or less to play for school “X”. But in those cases they are able to demonstrate academic reasons (rating of schools, coarse offerings, social issues, etc...). Does Loveland have FFA? So what you're saying is, instead of trying to fix the things that we all know are wrong that actually get reported to the media, we should just let it go because so much stuff does get swept under the rug? If you don't want everyone looking at your school, don't hire a coach with arguably the shadiest past of any coach living . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, H3llR4z0r said: Hey, don't be hating on old state championships He’s more than welcome to talk about Center’s football Championships. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie1 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I don't care if they play or not. If people want them playing then get the rules changed. Until then I don't see what the argument is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Opie1 said: I don't care if they play or not. If people want them playing then get the rules changed. Until then I don't see what the argument is about. I believe the argument is the “grey” area....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Rabbs63 said: I just got message that they were ruled eligible to play this morning. Anyone know for sure? Haven't heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordertown Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, H3llR4z0r said: So what you're saying is, instead of trying to fix the things that we all know are wrong that actually get reported to the media, we should just let it go because so much stuff does get swept under the rug? If you don't want everyone looking at your school, don't hire a coach with arguably the shadiest past of any coach living . I don’t have a dog in this fight. People are moving for athletic purposes under the story they are moving for academic purposes. In most cases, the school may not be involved...but parents encouraging kids to move. But those kids are playing as we speak football, volleyball, tennis, golf, cross country, etc .... . Intent is difficult to prove. I have read good and bad on Briles character, but have never met the man. Therefore I have no opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, bordertown said: I don’t have a dog in this fight. People are moving for athletic purposes under the story they are moving for academic purposes. In most cases, the school may not be involved...but parents encouraging kids to move. But those kids are playing as we speak football, volleyball, tennis, golf, cross country, etc .... . I have read good and bad on Briles character, but have never met the man. Therefore I have no opinion. I honestly don't either. Atlanta is in their district but our kids want to play them at their best. But it's not just about the kids. The entirety of the situation is ridiculous. Hawthorne even being involved. If it results in them being ineligible, I hate it but I mean where do you draw the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kooldown54 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rabbs63 said: I heard players were ruled eligible this morning. I need to call my bookie again! Damn, dont get the MV posters worked up like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tiger03lb Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, kooldown54 said: Damn, dont get the MV posters worked up like that! Think they disappeared on here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle34 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Opie1 said: I'm not from MV district. I just think rules are in place for a reason and if people think it's ok to break these rules then why have any rules. Why even have Refs on the field since we don't need rules. Opie, The District committee has cleared these players twice already. We dont know if any rules have been broken or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineman1988 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Opie1 said: I'm not from MV district. I just think rules are in place for a reason and if people think it's ok to break these rules then why have any rules. Why even have Refs on the field since we don't need rules. As long as they don’t accuse Sabine of anything right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kooldown54 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, eagle34 said: Opie, The District committee has cleared these players twice already. We dont know if any rules have been broken or not. On false/misinformed evidence, which granted another DEC meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsSeenOnTV Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 47 minutes ago, Rabbs63 said: I just got message that they were ruled eligible to play this morning. Anyone know for sure? State committee hasn't met yet. The only thing that the UIL has said is that MV will most likely NOT have to forfeit games since they were deemed eligible before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie1 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maineman1988 said: As long as they don’t accuse Sabine of anything right? The fact is if the rules were broken then I'm fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsSeenOnTV Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just go to the official meetings link on UIL website and see that this happens a lot more than people think. Only reason why this is so big is because of the coach in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie1 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 If they are legit then let them play, if not then don't let them play. It's pretty cut and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwightSchrute Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Trump2020 said: State committee hasn't met yet. The only thing that the UIL has said is that MV will most likely NOT have to forfeit games since they were deemed eligible before. Completely ridiculous. If they were deemed eligible before, then this means that either the DEC did not do their due diligence the first time this came up or that MV was hiding something and it did not come up in the first meeting. The fact they had to do a second DEC meeting on this matter shows a lack of professionalism with regards to the DEC by not investigating this matter thoroughly. Also, if they are deemed ineligible now, why should they be allowed to have those wins on their record? Clearly the students have been ineligible from the start. This mistake doesn't constitute the allowing of wins for that district IMO. However, the state may overrule and declare these students eligible and nothing should change with regarding their record but if that ruling is upheld by the state then there should be penalties and wins taken away IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangtilDeath Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, DwightSchrute said: Completely ridiculous. If they were deemed eligible before, then this means that either the DEC did not do their due diligence the first time this came up or that MV was hiding something and it did not come up in the first meeting. The fact they had to do a second DEC meeting on this matter shows a lack of professionalism with regards to the DEC by not investigating this matter thoroughly. Also, if they are deemed ineligible now, why should they be allowed to have those wins on their record? Clearly the students have been ineligible from the start. This mistake doesn't constitute the allowing of wins for that district IMO. However, the state may overrule and declare these students eligible and nothing should change with regarding their record but if that ruling is upheld by the state then there should be penalties and wins taken away IMO. Uil rules say that if there is a. Ineligible player found anytime in the season weather the school knew or not that the team forfeits their wins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Opie1 said: The fact is if the rules were broken then I'm fine with it. IF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangtilDeath Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, Eagleborn said: IF Dec wouldn't of took the time to assemble then vote unanimously if there was an "IF" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineman1988 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Opie1 said: If they are legit then let them play, if not then don't let them play. It's pretty cut and dry. Lots of grey! It will depend on who they choose to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangtilDeath Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Their not out to "get" these kids and nobody is scared of Mt Vernon. They voted on what they were given which the first time wasn't everything that was truth, the last vote was with the truth...and we see where we're at now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, StangtilDeath said: Dec wouldn't of took the time to assemble then vote unanimously if there was an "IF" Which time? First? Second? Third? wrong is wrong and IF they are in the wrong then punishment should be handed down but this witch-hunt is a bad look. IMO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangtilDeath Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, Eagleborn said: Which time? First? Second? Third? wrong is wrong and IF they are in the wrong then punishment should be handed down but this witch-hunt is a bad look. IMO How's it a witch Hunt? Each time the Dec assembled it was because new information was brought to the table, that's not a witch Hunt, that's doing what's right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts