3rdcoastent Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: They just like cowboys fans, they don’t hold Jerry accountable for not getting the team better, and JT fans don’t hold Holmes accountable to for not having championship by now with all the talent he wasted. They don’t see that.... they just say support like idiots. That’s why we ain’t going to no championship and don’t get respect, cause we support mediocrity. It’s just the real, I love JT I graduated from there but I don’t support stupidity just because that’s my team. Smh. He had teams that should won state last years team and for sure 2012 greg ward and ross senior year team was probaly his best team he has coached 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, 3rdcoastent said: He had teams that should won state last years team and for sure 2012 greg ward and ross senior year team was probaly his best team he has coached Wasted man smh.... and they want people to support.. smh lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack007 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: Wasted man smh.... and they want people to support.. smh lol I feel like he’s a good coach. I don’t think you can give all the credit to the kids for the reason they’ve won big games in the past. Definitely not calling him great. Just don’t believe he’s as bad as some are saying. But I’m on the outside. So... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 17 is the cap in 7-5A D1 Sherman is a difficult place to play and they'll be playing for their lives... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Pack007 said: I feel like he’s a good coach. I don’t think you can give all the credit to the kids for the reason they’ve won big games in the past. Definitely not calling him great. Just don’t believe he’s as bad as some are saying. But I’m on the outside. So... You give king 2012 and 2014, heck even last year team he would’ve won at least 1 or 2 chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: You give king 2012 and 2014, heck even last year team he would’ve won at least 1 or 2 chips. You don’t know that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: You give king 2012 and 2014, heck even last year team he would’ve won at least 1 or 2 chips. King had way more talent than JT most of the last 10 years and just recently got his title. Winning a state championship is hard. It takes talent, coaching, a perfect storm of many events and YES some luck! You guys make it sound like winning state is like the snap of a finger. I can’t honestly say that JT has been poorly coached. i don’t know. I haven’t seen them play often enough to draw that conclusion. It may very well be true. But as an outsider looking in... it seems there is a disparity in the actual talent in the cupboard and the talent the fan base believes they have. jmho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack007 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: You give king 2012 and 2014, heck even last year team he would’ve won at least 1 or 2 chips. You do know some lobo fans had a website asking for King to be fired i think after that 2016 season right? We don’t know what King would do with a JT team and I actually like him as a HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: King had way more talent than JT most of the last 10 years and just recently got his title. Winning a state championship is hard. It takes talent, coaching, a perfect storm of many events and YES some luck! You guys make it sound like winning state is like the snap of a finger. I can’t honestly say that JT has been poorly coached. i don’t know. I haven’t seen them play often enough to draw that conclusion. It may very well be true. But as an outsider looking in... it seems there is a disparity in the actual talent in the cupboard and the talent the fan base believes they have. jmho. There are several teams with deeper rosters, but top end talent over the past 10 yrs (subtracting this yr)....I will put JT up with most teams (based on head to head wins, Div.1 signees, NFL players) I'm sure there are several coaches better, and maybe Coach Holmes has done a few things we disagree with, but I'm not going to act like he has been a terrible coach. He has went to the semi finals twice and a quarterfinals in 7 yrs with several district championships. That is pretty good. This was always going to be a rebuilding yr. Many of us thought with this district, JT could get by with a 1st or 2nd place finish. I still think the future is bright with the upcoming talent over the next 4-5 yrs. I'm not going to say state, but I think they can get back to being very respectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: King had way more talent than JT most of the last 10 years and just recently got his title. Winning a state championship is hard. It takes talent, coaching, a perfect storm of many events and YES some luck! You guys make it sound like winning state is like the snap of a finger. I can’t honestly say that JT has been poorly coached. i don’t know. I haven’t seen them play often enough to draw that conclusion. It may very well be true. But as an outsider looking in... it seems there is a disparity in the actual talent in the cupboard and the talent the fan base believes they have. jmho. John Tyler has put the same level of talent as Longview in the last ten years. If not more. The talent pool at JT has been loaded since 2009 with some of the best in East Texas if no the state, did you forget JT has been to3 quarterfinals, and 3 semifinals, and a regional semi final, and has won 8 district titles since 2009? So I’m not sure about that one. Especially the 2009, 2010, and 2012, 2014,2016 teams. Heck the 2012 team had 15 people sign to play college ball. Some of the players are playing in the nfl right now or have played at some point or currently playing D1 college ball. Not saying JT would’ve won but they dang sure would’ve made it in 5A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Hornet Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, cujoforlife said: We beat the other teams that could get them in with west losing to Sherman that took them out. If Sherman was to beat John Tyler by 11 points or more and Texas High beats West Mesquite, John Tyler would be out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDellaRosa Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 John Tyler has clinched a playoff spot. Sherman would clinch a playoff spot with a win and a West Mesquite win or a win by at least 11 points and a Texas High victory. John Tyler would be ahead of West Mesquite or Texas High on points if either school was involved in the three-way tie with Sherman and John Tyler. Tyler is playing to avoid the fourth seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDellaRosa Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, 68Hornet said: If Sherman was to beat John Tyler by 11 points or more and Texas High beats West Mesquite, John Tyler would be out. Texas High would be out. The worst John Tyler can do in a three-way tie with Sherman and Texas High is -1. They won by 16 and could lose by as many as 17. Texas High is at -3. They beat Sherman by 13 and lost to John Tyler by 16. Right now Sherman is -13. That is why Sherman has to win by at least 11. They would go to -2 and be ahead of Texas High for the fourth seed. If they win by 13 or more, John Tyler is the four and Sherman is the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack007 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, 68Hornet said: If Sherman was to beat John Tyler by 11 points or more and Texas High beats West Mesquite, John Tyler would be out. That’s not true lol. JT is in the playoffs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtee2 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Pack007 said: You do know some lobo fans had a website asking for King to be fired i think after that 2016 season right? We don’t know what King would do with a JT team and I actually like him as a HC Ain't gone lie...2010 season ending...I wanted his a$$ in a sling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, gtee2 said: Ain't gone lie...2010 season ending...I wanted his a$$ in a sling omg lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Pack007 said: You do know some lobo fans had a website asking for King to be fired i think after that 2016 season right? Them same folks are kissing his feet now lol Bunch of damn idiots tbh. If they actually payed close attention to anything, they'd know that 2016 team was never going to do anything spectacular. That was the worst SR class Longview had since the early 2000s. They lacked so much...and I called them the 'calm before the storm' before the season started because I was aware of all the talent coming up behind that team. And its still coming. If we stay healthy, I really do like our chances again the next few years, especially with the drop down in class. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, ANTI said: Them same folks are kissing his feet now lol Bunch of damn idiots tbh. If they actually payed close attention to anything, they'd know that 2016 team was never going to do anything spectacular. That was the worst SR class Longview had since the early 2000s. They lacked so much...and I called them the 'calm before the storm' before the season started because I was aware of all the talent coming up behind that team. And its still coming. If we stay healthy, I really do like our chances again the next few years, especially with the drop down in class. It seems that's what this year's JT team is. This is probably the worst JT team since 2007, this team is even worse than 2017 team that didnt make the playoffs. But the talent coming the next few years will make it feel like the good ole years. Its gonna be tough to do anything with longview dropping but atleast we will be fully relevant again potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwsredraiders1990 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I want to see John Tyler in a tuffer district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kwsredraiders1990 said: I want to see John Tyler in a tuffer district. #struggle is real 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwsredraiders1990 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Champ1000 said: #struggle is real What you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, Kwsredraiders1990 said: I want to see John Tyler in a tuffer district. We were in 2016 in 6A and won a of share the district title went three rounds deep.. 2017 only didn’t make it cause of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwsredraiders1990 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: We were in 2016 in 6A and won a of share the district title went three rounds deep.. 2017 only didn’t make it cause of points. Yeah thas true but y'all had alot of guys on that team and when they left that next year y'all went 5-5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: We were in 2016 in 6A and won a of share the district title went three rounds deep.. 2017 only didn’t make it cause of points. JT would've been smoked, tbh, the last two years in 6A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Pack007 said: You do know some lobo fans had a website asking for King to be fired i think after that 2016 season right? We don’t know what King would do with a JT team and I actually like him as a HC It wasn't one fan. It was a former player that lived in freakin South Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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