Stoney Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Derek Jeter, Manny Ramirez, Larry Walker, and I think Clemens and Bonds make it sometime in the next three years. I know their careers are tainted, but I don't think the writers will leave them out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, DaveTV1 said: Derek Jeter, Manny Ramirez, Larry Walker, and I think Clemens and Bonds make it sometime in the next three years. I know their careers are tainted, but I don't think the writers will leave them out. I’m coming around to putting Bonds, Clemens and the rest of the Roid Era guys in, especially since Bud Selig is in. I can’t wait to see Jeter’s numbers. There’s never been a 100% vote. I wonder how many ballots he gets left off of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, Stoney said: I’m coming around to putting Bonds, Clemens and the rest of the Roid Era guys in, especially since Bud Selig is in. I can’t wait to see Jeter’s numbers. There’s never been a 100% vote. I wonder how many ballots he gets left off of. I beg to differ kind sir : You must be reading fake news : https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2019/1/22/18158101/mariano-rivera-hall-of-fame-vote-record-yankees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, DaveTV1 said: I beg to differ kind sir : You must be reading fake news : https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2019/1/22/18158101/mariano-rivera-hall-of-fame-vote-record-yankees I forgot Mo got in with a 100%. Maybe Jeter will be second then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I still don't see how Babe Ruth wasn't the first Lou Gehrig or Ted Williams for that matter. I know there was a lot of media bias against them back in the day though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Ricky Henderson was a known roid user, and hes in. Bonds, clemens, ramirez, etc, cant keep out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Jets said: Ricky Henderson was a known roid user, and hes in. Bonds, clemens, ramirez, etc, cant keep out By who ? Even Jose Canseco didn't name him, and they were on the same team together when he was injecting other players. Dave Stewart says he didn't. I'd like to see your proof or hearsay, because I've never heard that Ricky used the juice until now. https://www.sfgate.com/sports/shea/article/Canseco-swings-away-in-Juiced-Steroid-2732598.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 13 hours ago, DaveTV1 said: By who ? Even Jose Canseco didn't name him, and they were on the same team together when he was injecting other players. Dave Stewart says he didn't. I'd like to see your proof or hearsay, because I've never heard that Ricky used the juice until now. https://www.sfgate.com/sports/shea/article/Canseco-swings-away-in-Juiced-Steroid-2732598.php Canseco said theres a player in hof who used roids, who you think hes referring to? Also during the roid era 90% of players were using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Jets said: Canseco said theres a player in hof who used roids, who you think hes referring to? Also during the roid era 90% of players were using Bud Selig, Mike Piazza and Eppa Rixey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Stoney said: Bud Selig, Mike Piazza and Eppa Rixey? Bagwell, pudge also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I believe that Jose Canseco told the truth about all the players that he did name, but Ricky isn't one of them. He wasn't even named in the Mitchell Report. I tried to look up articles on the alleged steroid us of Henderson, and all I found were people saying he never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, DaveTV1 said: I believe that Jose Canseco told the truth about all the players that he did name, but Ricky isn't one of them. He wasn't even named in the Mitchell Report. I tried to look up articles on the alleged steroid us of Henderson, and all I found were people saying he never did. Ur right, i read more on ricky too, ive always wondered though, how can you play into your mid 40s and be totally ripped like that, and still preform the way he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 He worked out. If you notice about him, he didn't bulk up as Barry Bonds did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 11 hours ago, DaveTV1 said: He worked out. If you notice about him, he didn't bulk up as Barry Bonds did. I think pudge and bagwell were on roids, u? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Jets said: I think pudge and bagwell were on roids, u? I believe so, and I have read those rumors. If Canseco said he helped Pudge then I would have to agree, and I did see him gain the type of muscular dynamics that you see with roid users the same with Bagwell. Bagwell did admit in the Houston Chronicle that he used https://www.yourhormones.info/hormones/androstenedione/ . While it's not banned by MLB or the FDA at the time he played I'm unsure if it is now. From what I read it could counter the effects of steroids that lead to the non-production of testosterone. Canseco was busted coming back from Mexico with an illegal drug that did that since his body fails to produce it from years of using steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Ted Simmons and Marvin Miller elected to the Hall by way of the Modern Era Baseball Committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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