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Well "those" you spoke with really weren't paying very close attention then. While it wasn't a large score disparity it wasn't really that close of a call especially statistically.  Marshall

Longview knocks off Pine Tree, 6-4. 21-6 on the season. Seconded highest win total in the last 52 years for Lobo baseball. 

Someone from Whitehouse complaining about class and sportsmanship... That's irony. Sports or not.

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Week 11 Recap:
Texas High beat Whitehouse 51-21
Pine Tree beat Hallsville 70-35
Nacogdoches beat Marshall 28-13
Mount Pleasant beat Jacksonville 41-13
Ennis beat Greenville 56-3
North Forney beat Royse City 43-14
Corsicana beat Crandall 14-13
Sulphur Springs Vs. Forney- CANCELLED
Longview beat Tyler 58-14
Highland Park beat Wylie East 51-0
Sherman beat West Mesquite 50-36
McKinney North- BYE
College Station beat Magnolia West 70-28
Lufkin beat Waller 56-13
Magnolia beat New Caney  35-14
Cleveland beat Caney Creek 34-3
Porter- BYE




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District 8-5A DIV II

ZONE A
Ennis (4-0)(7-0)
Royse City (3-1) (5-2)
Crandall (1-3) (4-4)
Forney (0-4) (0-10)

ZONE B
North Forney (3-1) (7-1)
Greenville (2-2) (4-3)
Sulphur Springs (2-2) (2-4)
Corsicana (1-3) (3-6)

The district was idle this week. 

8-5A FINAL STANDINGS 
Ennis (8-0)
North Forney (8-1)
Royse City (5-3)
Greenville (4-4)
Crandall (3-4)
Sulphur Springs (2-4)
Corsicana (3-6)
Forney (0-9)

Meaningless cross over games this week did nothing to change playoff seedings. 

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District 9-5A DIV II
Texas High (10-0) (7-0)
Pine Tree (8-1-1) (6-1)
Whitehouse (8-2) (5-2)
Nacogdoches (5-4) (4-3)

Marshall (5-5) (3-4)
Mount Pleasant (4-6) (2-5)
Jacksonville (1-9) (1-6)
Hallsville (0-9) (0-7)

Texas High completed a perfect (10-0) season with a dominating win over WH.  PT closes out with a huge win over Hallsville.  Nac clinched the fourth and final playoff slot with a win over Marshall.
 


District 7-5A DIV I
Highland Park (8-0) (6-0)
Longview (7-2) (4-1)
Sherman (5-5) (4-1)
McKinney North (3-6) (3-3)
Tyler (2-7) (2-4)
West Mesquite (1-9) (1-5)
Wylie East (1-8) (0-6)

HP enters the playoffs as the top seed.  Longview will settle in to the #2 slot.  Sherman and McKinney North round out the playoff docket.  Tyler is out.

 

District 8-5A DIV I
Magnolia (9-1) (8-0)
College Station (9-1) (7-1)
Lufkin (6-4) (5-3)
New Caney (5-5) (4-4)
Magnolia West (5-5) (4-4)

Porter (6-4) (4-4)
Waller (3-7) (3-5)
Cleveland (2-8) (1-7)
Caney Creek (0-10) (0-8)

Magnolia wins the district championship with College Station taking the #2 slot.  LP moved up to the #3 slot with their win.  The fourth and final playoff slot went to New Caney since they beat Porter and Mag West head to head.

 

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Bi-District Playoff Games:

DIV II
Lake Creek (6-4) Vs. Texas High (10-0)
A&M Consolidated (8-2) Vs. Pine Tree (8-1-1)
Whitehouse (8-2) Vs. Montgomery (7-3)

Nacogdoches (5-4) Vs. Huntsville (9-0)

Frisco (6-1) Liberty Vs. Ennis (8-0)
Denison (7-3) Vs. North Forney (8-1)
Royse City (5-3) Vs. Frisco (6-1)
Greenville (4-4) Vs. Lovejoy (10-0)

DIV I
New Caney (5-5) Vs. Highland Park (8-0)
Lufkin (6-4) Vs. Longview (7-2)
Sherman (5-4) Vs. College Station (9-1)
McKinney North(3-6) Vs. Magnolia (9-1)

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I'm still in shock with how Magnolia West ended the season. Completely fell off a cliff after losing to Magnolia.

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Longview vs Lufkin will be Friday at 7:30 PM at Lobo.

College Station vs Sherman will be Saturday at 2 PM in College Station.

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19 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

Week 11 Recap:
Texas High beat Whitehouse 51-21
Pine Tree beat Hallsville 70-35
Nacogdoches beat Marshall 28-13
Mount Pleasant beat Jacksonville 41-13
Ennis beat Greenville 56-3
North Forney beat Royse City 43-14
Corsicana beat Crandall 14-13
Sulphur Springs Vs. Forney- CANCELLED
Longview beat Tyler 58-14
Highland Park beat Wylie East 51-0
Sherman beat West Mesquite 50-36
McKinney North- BYE
College Station beat Magnolia West 70-28
Lufkin beat Waller 56-13
Magnolia beat New Caney  35-14
Cleveland beat Caney Creek 34-3
Porter- BYE




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District 8-5A DIV II

ZONE A
Ennis (4-0)(7-0)
Royse City (3-1) (5-2)
Crandall (1-3) (4-4)
Forney (0-4) (0-10)

ZONE B
North Forney (3-1) (7-1)
Greenville (2-2) (4-3)
Sulphur Springs (2-2) (2-4)
Corsicana (1-3) (3-6)

The district was idle this week. 

8-5A FINAL STANDINGS 
Ennis (8-0)
North Forney (8-1)
Royse City (5-3)
Greenville (4-4)
Crandall (3-4)
Sulphur Springs (2-4)
Corsicana (3-6)
Forney (0-9)

Meaningless cross over games this week did nothing to change playoff seedings. 

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District 9-5A DIV II
Texas High (10-0) (7-0)
Pine Tree (8-1-1) (6-1)
Whitehouse (8-2) (5-2)
Nacogdoches (5-4) (4-3)

Marshall (5-5) (3-4)
Mount Pleasant (4-6) (2-5)
Jacksonville (1-9) (1-6)
Hallsville (0-9) (0-7)

Texas High completed a perfect (10-0) season with a dominating win over WH.  PT closes out with a huge win over Hallsville.  Nac clinched the fourth and final playoff slot with a win over Marshall.
 


District 7-5A DIV I
Highland Park (8-0) (6-0)
Longview (7-2) (4-1)
Sherman (5-5) (4-1)
McKinney North (3-6) (3-3)
Tyler (2-7) (2-4)
West Mesquite (1-9) (1-5)
Wylie East (1-8) (0-6)

HP enters the playoffs as the top seed.  Longview will settle in to the #2 slot.  Sherman and McKinney North round out the playoff docket.  Tyler is out.

 

District 8-5A DIV I
Magnolia (9-1) (8-0)
College Station (9-1) (7-1)
Lufkin (6-4) (5-3)
New Caney (5-5) (4-4)
Magnolia West (5-5) (4-4)

Porter (6-4) (4-4)
Waller (3-7) (3-5)
Cleveland (2-8) (1-7)
Caney Creek (0-10) (0-8)

Magnolia wins the district championship with College Station taking the #2 slot.  LP moved up to the #3 slot with their win.  The fourth and final playoff slot went to New Caney since they beat Porter and Mag West head to head.

 

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Bi-District Playoff Games:

DIV II
Lake Creek (6-4) Vs. Texas High (10-0)
A&M Consolidated (8-2) Vs. Pine Tree (8-1-1)
Whitehouse (8-2) Vs. Montgomery (7-3)

Nacogdoches (5-4) Vs. Huntsville (9-0)

This is a tough draw for every single team in 9-5A with the exception of Texas High.  The Tigers should roll easy Vs. Lake Creek.  Texarkana is clicking on all cylinders right now it appears.

Pine Tree might be hosting the best #3 seed in the state Friday night.  Their only losses were to Huntsville and Montgomery.  AMC has a TON of playoff pedigree, while PT has none.  This is a killer draw for any hosting team.  Pirates will have their hands full.

Whitehouse has a tough game too.  They will be a long way from home when they travel to Montgomery.  The Bears gave Huntsville all they wanted for a while....it will be a tough uphill battle for the Wildcats who have some serious defensive issues.

Nac will likely play Huntsville in Madisonville since SHSU's stadium is under construction.  The Dragons are facing a Hornets team that has been at the top of region III for a nice long time.... hard to fathom Nac getting this upset.  Huntsville is undefeated and appears primed for another matchup with Fort Bend Marshall.

(1-3) is a distinct possibility for 9-5A. 

Anyone but TxH winning would be an upset IMHO.

Good luck to Texas High, PT, and Nac! 

Pulling for ya'll!

 

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6 hours ago, LoboFan07 said:

I'm still in shock with how Magnolia West ended the season. Completely fell off a cliff after losing to Magnolia.

Yea, I’m shocked about that too.  I didn’t see their path to missing the playoffs.  Maybe the football gods were paying them back for the 97-0 game. 

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3 minutes ago, bordertown said:

One noticeable exception.  It’s 2020, maybe just this one time you can pull for them.😎

Nope. 

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2 hours ago, EazyMoney said:

Yea, I’m shocked about that too.  I didn’t see their path to missing the playoffs.  Maybe the football gods were paying them back for the 97-0 game. 

Yep.  Payback come with doing that stuff.  I know someone who was at that game and said they were driving, and ran out of time trying to break 100 and were disappointed they didn't.  College Station 72-0, Lufkin 58-0 and Magnolia 56-0 .  At some point you just need to run the clock out in a game like that and go home.

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Please someone explain to me what happen to Marshall, thought they had great potential this year. Was it injuries?

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7 minutes ago, PackAttack said:

Please someone explain to me what happen to Marshall, thought they had great potential this year. Was it injuries?

Interested to get Mav fans thoughts, but it appeared to be line play. For about 5 years, that was the problem at Texas High. 

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14 minutes ago, PackAttack said:

Please someone explain to me what happen to Marshall, thought they had great potential this year. Was it injuries?

I was looking forward to another Huntsville-Marshall matchup.  I am also surprised they didn’t even make playoffs after winning district last year.  

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The one criticism, I have of the Tigers is they have a tendency to play to their “perceived” level of their opponents. If I were Jerry Sanford, I would relive 2019 when a 4th seed traveled to the home stadium of a state ranked team and came home with a win. Stay focused and play like they are playing Ennis.

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33 minutes ago, PackAttack said:

Please someone explain to me what happen to Marshall, thought they had great potential this year. Was it injuries?

1.  Offensive line was putrid.

I'm pretty sure we got worse as the season progressed.  Some of that is on the kids... some of that on the staff IMHO.  If the kids aren't going to put the work in.... then other kids should get the shot.  The JV OL couldn't have done much worse..... 

To me it was laziness.  No hustle at all.

2.  Lack of mobility at QB.

Our QB had a great arm.... he finished the season with 1600-ish yards passing, but he was strictly a pocket passer.  That's bad when you have the problem listed in #1.  He just didn't have the skill set to tuck and run like we've seen in past Marshall QB's.  We've always had mobile QB's and it was a dagger in a lot of defenses we played.  We simply didn't have it in 2020.

3.  Vanilla/predictable play-calling

When #1 and #2 are a problem... it makes you pretty predictable and too easy to defend.  Most defenses were in our backfield before the handoffs were being made.... or the QB was having to run for his life.

4.  Texas High drops to Div II

Lucky us.... best team THS has had in a decade and they drop to Div II.  Wish they had been in Div I with Longview and HP this season.  lmao.  Woulda been fun to watch.

5.  Pine Tree has a generational team

Might not be a program in the region more deserving of finally having a great season than PT.  It's been a long.... long....LOOOOOOOONG time coming.  Not sure it will continue with what they will lose after this season....but they were overdue.... and they were simply better than us.

All of that (and more) added up to a wildly disappointing (5-5) season.

 

It's pretty frustrating that we beat New Caney AND McKinney North.... who are both in the Div I playoffs in their districts..... and we can't even finish in the top 4 in our Div II district.  

We got some work to do this offseason.

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17 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

Possible playoff roads for 9-5A:


 

Mavchamp,  quick question from a Texas High fan.  You show Nederland as likely second round foe.  Did Nederland’s victory over Crosby last night change that?  I think Nederland got #1 seed and Crosby the #2

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16 minutes ago, Ace said:

Mavchamp,  quick question from a Texas High fan.  You show Nederland as likely second round foe.  Did Nederland’s victory over Crosby last night change that?  I think Nederland got #1 seed and Crosby the #2

Indeed it did.

 

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Division II Region III Playoffs and possible playoff roads

Lake Creek Vs. Texas High
Fort Bend Willowridge Vs. Crosby
Nacogdoches Vs. Huntsville
Barbers Hill Vs. Galena Park
Port Neches-Groves Vs. Fort Bend Marshall
Whitehouse Vs. Montgomery
Houston Sterling Vs. Nederland
A&M Consolidated Vs. Pine Tree

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Texas High
Bi-District: Lake Creek (6-4)
Area: Crosby (7-3) or Fort Bend Willowridge (7-2)
Regional: Huntsville (9-0) or Galena Park (8-2)
Quarterfinals: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0) or A&M Consolidated (8-2)

Pine Tree
Bi-District: A&M Consolidated (8-2)
Area: Nederland (7-2)
Regional: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0) or Montgomery (7-3)
Quarterfinals: Huntsville (9-0) or Texas High (10-0)

Whitehouse
Bi-District: Montgomery (7-3)
Area: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0)
Regional: A&M Consolidated (8-2)
Quarterfinals: Texas High (10-0)

Nacogdoches
Bi-district:  Huntsville (9-0)
Area: Galena Park (8-2)
Regional: Texas High (10-0)
Quarterfinals: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0) or AMC (8-2)


No easy roads out of Region III for anyone.

Then you likely get Liberty Hill (8-0) in the semis.

Then Ennis (8-0), Aledo (7-1), Lovejoy (10-0), or Frisco in the state championship.

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4 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

Division II Region III Playoffs and possible playoff roads

Lake Creek Vs. Texas High
Fort Bend Willowridge Vs. Crosby
Nacogdoches Vs. Huntsville
Barbers Hill Vs. Galena Park
Port Neches-Groves Vs. Fort Bend Marshall
Whitehouse Vs. Montgomery
Houston Sterling Vs. Nederland
A&M Consolidated Vs. Pine Tree

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Texas High
Bi-District: Lake Creek (6-4)
Area: Crosby (7-3) or Fort Bend Willowridge (7-2)
Regional: Huntsville (9-0) or Galena Park (8-2)
Quarterfinals: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0) or A&M Consolidated (8-2)

Pine Tree
Bi-District: A&M Consolidated (8-2)
Area: Nederland (7-2)
Regional: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0) or Montgomery (7-3)
Quarterfinals: Huntsville (9-0) or Texas High (10-0)

Whitehouse
Bi-District: Montgomery (7-3)
Area: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0)
Regional: A&M Consolidated (8-2)
Quarterfinals: Texas High (10-0)

Nacogdoches
Bi-district:  Huntsville (9-0)
Area: Galena Park (8-2)
Regional: Texas High (10-0)
Quarterfinals: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0) or AMC (8-2)


No easy roads out of Region III for anyone.

Then you likely get Liberty Hill (8-0) in the semis.

Then Ennis (8-0), Aledo (7-1), Lovejoy (10-0), or Frisco in the state championship.

Great info Mavchamp.  Thanks for your input all season long.

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3 minutes ago, Ace said:

Great info Mavchamp.  Thanks for your input all season long.

Very welcome.

That  game just reiterated what I said in my original post about Nederland being a tough out.  They are a very well-coached program.

IMHO..... Crosby moving into the #3 slot gives THS a slightly easier road.

But it makes PT's a little harder.... even though I'm not expecting them to beat AMC.

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26 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

Division II Region III Playoffs and possible playoff roads



Nacogdoches
Bi-district:  Huntsville (9-0)
Area: Galena Park (8-2)
Regional: Texas High (10-0)
Quarterfinals: Fort Bend Marshall (9-0) or AMC (8-2)


No easy roads out of Region III for anyone.

Then you likely get Liberty Hill (8-0) in the semis.

Then Ennis (8-0), Aledo (7-1), Lovejoy (10-0), or Frisco in the state championship.

Nac will be the Giant Slayers:)

 

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6 hours ago, bordertown said:

One noticeable exception.  It’s 2020, maybe just this one time you can pull for them.😎

I'm neutral. I hate to hold that forever against kids that were not there at the time.  But it was unforgiveable.  Just have to remember some people have moved on.  This will follow that coach forever........and unfortunately the team for a long long time.

 

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1 hour ago, THSfanatic said:

I'm neutral. I hate to hold that forever against kids that were not there at the time.  But it was unforgiveable.  Just have to remember some people have moved on.  This will follow that coach forever........and unfortunately the team for a long long time.

 

I think McFarland retired a few years ago from TK Gorman.

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1 hour ago, THSfanatic said:

I'm neutral. I hate to hold that forever against kids that were not there at the time.  But it was unforgiveable.  Just have to remember some people have moved on.  This will follow that coach forever........and unfortunately the team for a long long time.

 

My dislike is less about that....  it’s been a long time.  It ranks with Philadelphia fans throwing things at Santa.  The legend will live forever.

My disdain is more about the culture. It’s been witnessed by several schools in several sports.  

Ask Lobfan what he witnessed at a volleyball playoff with them. Ask JT about their basketball experiences. Ask Lufkin about their baseball experience. Marshall with football.  Nac reported the same. 

I will say... I didn’t see any of that this season.

So Yeah. 

Go THS!  Go PT!  Go Nac!!!! 

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9-5A will go AT LEAST 2-2 this year in the playoffs

THigh - WIN BY 20+

PT - WIN BY 20+ (AMC is as over-rated as the Marshall Mavericks)

WH - 50/50 Chance vs Montgomery

NAC - Lose but closer than you think vs Huntsville

Good luck to ALL 9-5A BEAST TEXAS!!

 

SIDE NOTE - GO LINDALE EAGLES! (Proving how good 9-5A is when you drop down to 4A)

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