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Lufkin boys soccer defeats Corsicana 4-2 and will play Nacogdoches in the 3rd round. The two have already played twice in district, should be a great matchup.

Lufkin baseball no hit Jacksonville 9-0, while WH pulled out a 2-1 win over Nacogdoches in Nac. This 16-5A has three really good baseball teams.

Lufkin Girls softball won 16-1 in 3 innings over Tyler High. 

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Well "those" you spoke with really weren't paying very close attention then. While it wasn't a large score disparity it wasn't really that close of a call especially statistically.  Marshall

Someone from Whitehouse complaining about class and sportsmanship... That's irony. Sports or not.

Why be a douche about it?  Nac doesn’t pick their district.  They compete where they are put... and they dominate.  just say congrats and move on.  Don’t see the point in trying to lessen thei

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Longview defeats Joshua 2-0.

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SECOND ROUND SOCCER PLAYOFF SCORES

Ladies' Games
Joshua beat Longview 8-7 in PKs after 0-0 tie
Forney beat Jacksonville 3-0
Midlothian beat Hallsville 3-1
Highland Park beat Mount Pleasant 5-0


Men's Games
Longview beat Joshua 2-0
Lufkin beat Corsicana 4-2
Sulphur Springs beat Red Oak 3-2 in OT
Nacogdoches beat Midlothian 1-0

It was a rough night for the East Texas ladies as they went a combined (0-4) on the night.  State ranked Jacksonville's loss to Forney set the tone for the night it appears.  Longview's PK loss to Joshua was a thriller to the end.  Hallsville and MP also saw their seasons come to a close as well.  

East Texas boys swept their second round games (4-0) thanks to Sulphur Springs' huge upset of Red Oak.  Longview scored twice late in their match to beat Joshua.  Lufkin made easy work of Corsicana and Nac used a stingy defense to beat Midlothian.  

 

THIRD ROUND SOCCER PLAYOFF MATCHUPS
Longview Vs. Sulphur Springs- TBA
Nacogdoches Vs. Lufkin- TBA

**Longview swept Sulphur Springs in the regular season... both 1-0 wins.
**Lufkin swept Nacogdoches in the regular season.... a 3-1 and a 2-1 win.

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DISTRICT 15-5A SOFTBALL
Hallsville (7-0) (14-4-1)
Sulphur Springs (5-1), (14-3)
Mount Pleasant (5-2) (13-6)
Marshall (3-4), (9-6-1)
Texas High (3-4), (9-8)
Longview (1-6), (9-7)
Pine Tree (0-7) (1-16)

Game 8
Marshall beat Longview 4-3
Hallsville beat Pine Tree 24-2
Mount Pleasant beat Texas High 8-7
Sulphur Springs- OFF

Hallsville is tightening their grip on the district championship with another win as they are now a 1.5 ahead of Sulphur Springs, who was idle.  Mount Pleasant's win over Texas High kept the Yellow Tigers all alone in third place, while dropping Texarkana into a tie for fourth with Marshall, who beat Longview. 

 

 

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DISTRICT 16-5A SOFTBALL
Huntsville (4-0), (18-3)
Whitehouse (3-1), (9-6-1)
Jacksonville (3-1), (8-10)
Nacogdoches (1-3), (1-11)
Lufkin (1-3), (10-8)
Tyler (0-4), (1-6-2)

Game 4
Huntsville beat Whitehouse 17-12
Jacksonville beat Nacogdoches 15-0
Lufkin beat Tyler FINAL SCORE ????

Huntsville took control of the district lead with a wild win over Whitehouse.  The Ladycats fall into a second place tie with the Lady Maidens of Jacksonville, who dominated Nac.  Lufkin finally got their first win in district play thanks to Tyler (looking for a final 4-0 was the last I heard).
 

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DISTRICT 15-5A BASEBALL
Hallsville (5-0), (16-4)
Sulphur Springs (4-1), (7-11)
Texas High (4-2), (10-4-1)
Longview (3-2), (14-5-1)
Marshall (1-4), (7-11)
Mount Pleasant (1-4), (6-9)
Pine Tree (0-5), (3-13)


GAME 6
Hallsville beat Pine Tree 10-0
Texas High beat Mt. Pleasant 5-0
Longview beat Marshall 9-2
Sulphur Springs- OFF

Hallsville continues to sit atop the district undefeated.  Sulphur Springs is one game behind.  Texas High is hanging close with their win over MP.  Longview solidified their playoff hopes by dominating Marshall.

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DISTRICT 16-5A BASEBALL

Whitehouse (5-1), (16-4)
Lufkin (5-1), (16-4-1)
Nacogdoches (4-2), (16-5)
Huntsville (3-3), (10-12)
Jacksonville (1-5),  (9-11)
Tyler (0-6), (8-14)

Games 6
Huntsville beat Tyler 7-6
Lufkin beat Jacksonville 9-0 (no-hitter by Alex Luna)
Whitehouse beat Nac 2-1
 

Whitehouse beat Nac to drop the Dragons down to third place in the standings behind the Lufkin Panthers.  LP's win over J-ville pulled them into a tie for first with Whitehouse.  Huntsville slipped by Tyler to keep their playoff hopes on solid ground. Jacksonville and Tyler continue to struggle.

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The District 15-5A track meet is set for this week at Pine Tree.

The District 16-5A track meet is set for April 7th and 9th at Whitehouse.

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Former Marshall Maverick all-star Wide Receiver Tahj Washington has entered the portal and will transfer from the University of Memphis to the University of Southern California.

Washington had 743 yards on on 43 receptions for 6 TD's

Memphis went (8-3) last season.  
USC was (5-1).

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Longview vs Sulphur Springs in the 5A Region II Quarterfinals will be Thursday, at 7:00 PM at Lindale's Eagle Stadium.

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BOYS REGION II AREA RESULTS:
W12 Dallas Kimball 1 vs R9 Frisco 3
W11 Dallas W.T. White 3 vs T9 Frisco Centennial 6
F15 Sulphur Springs 4 vs T14 Red Oak 2 (OT)
W15 Longview 2 vs R14 Joshua 0

W10 Lewisville The Colony 2 vs R11 Carrollton R.L. Turner 3
W9 Frisco Wakeland 7 vs R12 Dallas Adamson 0
W14 Midlothian 0 vs T16 Nacogdoches 1
F14 Corsicana 2 vs R16 Lufkin

Leaving us with...

BOYS REGION II QUARTERFINALS
R9 Frisco vs T9 Frisco Centennial
F15 Sulphur Springs vs W15 Longview

R11 Carrollton R.L. Turner vs W9 Frisco Wakeland
T16 Nacogdoches vs R16 Lufkin

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Still a little shocked to see the Ladies get swept in soccer.  

Particularly Jacksonville and Longview.  The metro areas are still ahead of us when it comes to development.

Goes back to the same thing with basketball..... we are lagging behind in East Texas when it comes to elite leagues.

And we don't see the soccer specialists athletes like they do in the suburbs.  Those kids play soccer YEAR ROUND.  Just not there yet here.

 

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6 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

Still a little shocked to see the Ladies get swept in soccer.  

Particularly Jacksonville and Longview.  The metro areas are still ahead of us when it comes to development.

Goes back to the same thing with basketball..... we are lagging behind in East Texas when it comes to elite leagues.

And we don't see the soccer specialists athletes like they do in the suburbs.  Those kids play soccer YEAR ROUND.  Just not there yet here.

 

Honestly, I think you can look at the boys side to further prove your point.  In soccer, the superior athleticism they may have had with the boys soccer team in Kilgore (they were ranked #1 or 2) in their loss shows that a skilled team can beat superior athletes in skilled sports like soccer.  

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1 hour ago, Mavchamp said:

Still a little shocked to see the Ladies get swept in soccer.  

Particularly Jacksonville and Longview.  The metro areas are still ahead of us when it comes to development.

Goes back to the same thing with basketball..... we are lagging behind in East Texas when it comes to elite leagues.

And we don't see the soccer specialists athletes like they do in the suburbs.  Those kids play soccer YEAR ROUND.  Just not there yet here.

 

The Longview loss was purely down to Joshua’s keeper in regulation. Penalty kicks are just a luck of the draw really, and yes Longview had four chances to end it,  but PKs are PKs. Longview played well throughout the night. Easily could’ve had two or three goals on a different night. 

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2 hours ago, LoboFan07 said:

The Longview loss was purely down to Joshua’s keeper in regulation. Penalty kicks are just a luck of the draw really, and yes Longview had four chances to end it,  but PKs are PKs. Longview played well throughout the night. Easily could’ve had two or three goals on a different night. 

No doubt the game was winnable for Longview.  The regulation score clearly shows that.  I watched the PKs.  It could have gone the other way for sure  

But I think it still shows a gap in talent when a district runner up team gave a dominating district champion such a close game.  Same with Jacksonville (who did struggle some in their district).

The gap is narrower than it was 5-10 years ago.  Most of those DFW/ETX games were blowouts it seemed.  Now East Texas is hanging tough.  But still seems to be a bit behind. (0-4) is a tough pill to swallow.

Good to see the Boys flexing a bit. And knowing ETX will have 2 teams in the region quarters is a good thing going forward. 

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4 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

Still a little shocked to see the Ladies get swept in soccer.  

Particularly Jacksonville and Longview.  The metro areas are still ahead of us when it comes to development.

Goes back to the same thing with basketball..... we are lagging behind in East Texas when it comes to elite leagues.

And we don't see the soccer specialists athletes like they do in the suburbs.  Those kids play soccer YEAR ROUND.  Just not there yet here.

 

Eh, I don't think the soccer disparity between the non-burbs and burbs are as wide like basketball is...on the boys side anyway.

 

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4 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

Still a little shocked to see the Ladies get swept in soccer.  

Particularly Jacksonville and Longview.  The metro areas are still ahead of us when it comes to development.

Goes back to the same thing with basketball..... we are lagging behind in East Texas when it comes to elite leagues.

And we don't see the soccer specialists athletes like they do in the suburbs.  Those kids play soccer YEAR ROUND.  Just not there yet here.

 

Very disappointed Jacksonville girls lost. They had a great season though... only 3 seniors. 

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9 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

No doubt the game was winnable for Longview.  The regulation score clearly shows that.  I watched the PKs.  It could have gone the other way for sure  

But I think it still shows a gap in talent when a district runner up team gave a dominating district champion such a close game.  Same with Jacksonville (who did struggle some in their district).

The gap is narrower than it was 5-10 years ago.  Most of those DFW/ETX games were blowouts it seemed.  Now East Texas is hanging tough.  But still seems to be a bit behind. (0-4) is a tough pill to swallow.

Good to see the Boys flexing a bit. And knowing ETX will have 2 teams in the region quarters is a good thing going forward. 

No doubt, on the whole I completely agree that East Texas soccer on the girls level is a bit behind.

I think the boys are closing the gap, but as you said earlier, our players are never going to the opportunities that those in the Metroplex or any other large Metro areas are having every single day of the year.

It's frustrating from a Lady Lobo stand point, because the way they lost on Tuesday is how every season has gone for the most part recently.

2014 - Allen, Tied 0-0...Lost 3-1 on PKs.
2015 - Mansfield Legacy, Tied 1-1...Lost 4-2 on PKs.
2016 - Mansfield Lake Ridge, Tied 1-1...Lost 3-2 on PKs.
2017 - The Woodlands College Park, Tied 1-1...Lost 3-0 on PKs.
2019 - The outlier, lost to Allen 5-0.
2021 - Joshua, Tied 0-0...Lost 8-7 on PKs.

I think, Longview at least, is on the right path. I really did think this season they had a chance to make the State Tournament. But finishing will kill you. There was one save that I keep remembering in the first half that I have no idea how that Joshua keeper made, that would've been the difference in the end. Ah well.

Looking forward to tonight. Hoping we can have an all East Texas Region Final.

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11 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

No doubt the game was winnable for Longview.  The regulation score clearly shows that.  I watched the PKs.  It could have gone the other way for sure  

But I think it still shows a gap in talent when a district runner up team gave a dominating district champion such a close game.  Same with Jacksonville (who did struggle some in their district).

The gap is narrower than it was 5-10 years ago.  Most of those DFW/ETX games were blowouts it seemed.  Now East Texas is hanging tough.  But still seems to be a bit behind. (0-4) is a tough pill to swallow.

Good to see the Boys flexing a bit. And knowing ETX will have 2 teams in the region quarters is a good thing going forward. 

The biggest gap between the metros and the outliers will show in 5A soccer.  6A is almost exclusively metros and 4A is almost exclusively outside of metros.  5A has such a big mix of schools and at some point someone is going to run into one of the schools where their entire soccer team plays on a nationally ranked club team in DFW... there is just more of an opportunity to really build those soccer skills that any great football or basketball player can’t step off the court/out of pads and do.  

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1 hour ago, LoboFan07 said:

No doubt, on the whole I completely agree that East Texas soccer on the girls level is a bit behind.

I think the boys are closing the gap, but as you said earlier, our players are never going to the opportunities that those in the Metroplex or any other large Metro areas are having every single day of the year.

It's frustrating from a Lady Lobo stand point, because the way they lost on Tuesday is how every season has gone for the most part recently.

2014 - Allen, Tied 0-0...Lost 3-1 on PKs.
2015 - Mansfield Legacy, Tied 1-1...Lost 4-2 on PKs.
2016 - Mansfield Lake Ridge, Tied 1-1...Lost 3-2 on PKs.
2017 - The Woodlands College Park, Tied 1-1...Lost 3-0 on PKs.
2019 - The outlier, lost to Allen 5-0.
2021 - Joshua, Tied 0-0...Lost 8-7 on PKs.

I think, Longview at least, is on the right path. I really did think this season they had a chance to make the State Tournament. But finishing will kill you. There was one save that I keep remembering in the first half that I have no idea how that Joshua keeper made, that would've been the difference in the end. Ah well.

Looking forward to tonight. Hoping we can have an all East Texas Region Final.

There is a fix, but it would take a huge investment from the REGION to fix it.  Between the 4A and 5A towns they all need club teams and need a sponsored league.  Where they can play regional and the top teams travel and play in dfw tournaments 

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30 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said:

The biggest gap between the metros and the outliers will show in 5A soccer.  6A is almost exclusively metros and 4A is almost exclusively outside of metros.  5A has such a big mix of schools and at some point someone is going to run into one of the schools where their entire soccer team plays on a nationally ranked club team in DFW... there is just more of an opportunity to really build those soccer skills that any great football or basketball player can’t step off the court/out of pads and do.  

I agree. Also, what I see is schools can be classified as 5A and be playing with 3A-4A numbers, especially on the girls side. Example being Mount Pleasant. Many of the girls who play soccer also play other sports. Difficult for girls to work on a particular sport year around when they are playing different sports in different seasons. 

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1 hour ago, TigerNahum17 said:

I agree. Also, what I see is schools can be classified as 5A and be playing with 3A-4A numbers, especially on the girls side. Example being Mount Pleasant. Many of the girls who play soccer also play other sports. Difficult for girls to work on a particular sport year around when they are playing different sports in different seasons. 

Yep.  That is where our girls soccer team in Mineral Wells will see a huge drop off next year.  Our best players will also be playing basketball and do not play soccer outside of what they get at the school.  The boys will be average next year and see a HUGE uptick from the freshman class... possibly a state title in the next 5 years in Mineral Wells if they project the way I think they should.  But most of the boys out here only play soccer and compete in Aledo, Weatherford, and Ft. Worth.  

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2 hours ago, MavGrad99 said:

The biggest gap between the metros and the outliers will show in 5A soccer.  6A is almost exclusively metros and 4A is almost exclusively outside of metros.  5A has such a big mix of schools and at some point someone is going to run into one of the schools where their entire soccer team plays on a nationally ranked club team in DFW... there is just more of an opportunity to really build those soccer skills that any great football or basketball player can’t step off the court/out of pads and do.  

Very good point about 5A being the one with the most metro/non-metro mix. 

6A is absolutely mostly suburban.  4A is mostly rural. 

5A is the middle child.  Sadly ETX 5A  soccer is fashioned more like 4A and less like 6A. 

Until that changes.... it is what it is.  

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2 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

Very good point about 5A being the one with the most metro/non-metro mix. 

6A is absolutely mostly suburban.  4A is mostly rural. 

5A is the middle child.  Sadly ETX 5A  soccer is fashioned more like 4A and less like 6A. 

Until that changes.... it is what it is.  

Mind you, 2 years ago MP girls and boys both played at the Regional tournament. Jacksonville was also there for the boys. 

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32 minutes ago, TigerNahum17 said:

Mind you, 2 years ago MP girls and boys both played at the Regional tournament. Jacksonville was also there for the boys. 

We’ve definitely improved.  Lufkin won state a couple of years ago. 

But overall.... it appears we still lag behind. 

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3 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

We’ve definitely improved.  Lufkin won state a couple of years ago. 

But overall.... it appears we still lag behind. 

We do for sure, but a lot of the problem, at least for MP is sheer numbers. You have said it many times before, depth always seems to get us (MP) in the end. So many of our students, district wide I would probably think also, do not participate in sports, for whatever reason.  Sports are such a vital part to a school, the kids and their community; they give the people a common goal to rally behind. 

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35 minutes ago, TigerNahum17 said:

We do for sure, but a lot of the problem, at least for MP is sheer numbers. You have said it many times before, depth always seems to get us (MP) in the end. So many of our students, district wide I would probably think also, do not participate in sports, for whatever reason.  Sports are such a vital part to a school, the kids and their community; they give the people a common goal to rally behind. 

I find this pretty remarkable/interesting. It’s not lot MP doesn’t have history of good teams either. Hopefully that somehow changes.

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0-0 at halftime between the Lobos and Wildcats.

Longview has had their fair chances but nothing in.

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