Dawgman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 2:03 PM, PackAttack said: You realize the Lufkin football revenue goes into the school general fund. So, football does produce 1/4th of the entire athletic budget for all of Lufkin ISD. That includes all elementary , middle school and high school athletics. You will find it does for most school districts. That is $246,000 that are not tax dollars spent. I am sure Longview's football revenue is much higher, because they have had great playoff success these past few years. You might check them out too. Tyler Schools?? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/2017/07/15/an-inside-look-at-the-finances-behind-hs-football-in-the-dallas-area/%3foutputType=amp Most high school football programs run a deficit. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but in general, they run a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 10 hours ago, NATUREBOY98 said: I can see that in cities with multiple teams in an ISD but not in small towns. Stadiums are packed to the breaking point on Friday nights. We love our teams and there’s not much else to do other than that. Coach Abron told me when he was at SS they played a Rockwall team. SS traveled well and had a nice crowd. The Rockwall side had about 20 or so fans. He said he felt bad for opposing teams players. What is not looked at when people talk about money being brought is coaches stipends and salaries. Let’s say a small town sells out their 2500 seat stadium, $5.00 a head, no passes, no senior discounts and no student passes. 5 home games a year. $62,500 brought in ticket. That hasn’t paid the AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 The loss of games will hurt the boosters for fund raising. HS football helps with the cost, but it does not cover the cost in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 49 minutes ago, Dawgman said: The loss of games will hurt the boosters for fund raising. HS football helps with the cost, but it does not cover the cost in most cases. Look bigger. If no football there won’t be anything else in the fall which means the budget requirements will be less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 True 16 minutes ago, DawgNation2015 said: Look bigger. If no football there won’t be anything else in the fall which means the budget requirements will be less. True to a certain degree. Coaches will still receive their stipends so that money still comes out of the budget. Districts could lose money if they cancel fall sports and students decide not to return to school. Either go private school or a homeschool model. Enrollment declines and funding declines. There is no price tag you can put on a quality athletic program. It’s why districts will fund them. Athletics for the school district is not a money maker. Athletics for booster clubs are a money maker. Great booster clubs supplement where the districts fall short in funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 hours ago, NATUREBOY98 said: My wife was president of our athletic booster club for 3 years. Decided to step down after this year. We made the majority of our money during the spring hosting track meets. Football was good but we get stuck with the visitor side. Band BC gets home side. That always made me mad as hell. It’s an athletic event. Band parents are something else. Lol so true on the band. Host a couple of well run meets and track is a money maker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 4:35 PM, cotton84 said: Non school football - the cost would be too much for most parents(helmets, shoulder pads, cleats, uniform, etc......plus footing the bill to pay for a field)......most schools would not allow a select team on their field. People spend a lot of money on their kids sports so I don’t think cost will be that big of a prohibition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 7/5/2020 at 12:17 PM, NATUREBOY98 said: My wife was president of our athletic booster club for 3 years. Decided to step down after this year. We made the majority of our money during the spring hosting track meets. Football was good but we get stuck with the visitor side. Band BC gets home side. That always made me mad as hell. It’s an athletic event. Band parents are something else. Band blows! They provide the least and demand the most with a cry of how noble band camp is. Lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 hours ago, TheShadowKnows said: Band blows! They provide the least and demand the most with a cry of how noble band camp is. Lol I've heard what happens this one time at band camp, and they want to put boys and girls camping together with the scouting program. Some of the things I heard would put any R rated teen movie look tame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehard Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Overwhelming majority attend school just for the extracurricular activities. School attendance decreases when the sport is over. Ftball is essential to get kids to school and the sport requires them to learn so they can stay eligible to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/5/2020 at 12:17 PM, NATUREBOY98 said: My wife was president of our athletic booster club for 3 years. Decided to step down after this year. We made the majority of our money during the spring hosting track meets. Football was good but we get stuck with the visitor side. Band BC gets home side. That always made me mad as hell. It’s an athletic event. Band parents are something else. HEY! HEY! HEY! I’m a band parent! Watch it there blondie, before I have to channel my inner Shawn Michaels and kick the dye out of your roots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, NATUREBOY98 said: Good grief we are in the end times. I get on for a band joke on a forum about football in the great state of Texas!!!!! I gave you a like on the thread you quoted scripture. You are back to even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tc0m Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, NATUREBOY98 said: Good grief we are in the end times. I get on for a band joke on a forum about football in the great state of Texas!!!!! Lol I mean I think trueblue was just giving it right back to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 No one loves HSFB more than me! But it’s just not the same without the band. No atmosphere... no pep. Abd makes halftime feel like it’s 3 hours long. Bring on the band! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tc0m Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, NATUREBOY98 said: Nope. Came from Mavchamp. Lol I gotcha, I thought you were responding to TrueBlue's response, and not the little poop emoji. My bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tc0m Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 And for what it's worth, I thought the band jokes were funny, but I do agree with MavChamp. HS football is better with the bands in the stands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 I may..... or may not...have some band camp stories of my own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgman Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I agree a good band can help a football atmosphere. Take Alto and John Tyler’s band, they get the stadium rocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDJ89 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 12:04 PM, Mavchamp said: There’s an interesting conversation happening on twitter about this. Thought I’d bring it here. Let’s say UIL cancels football this fall. What would that mean? would alternate leagues form? Would we see club/elite football explode like we’ve seen with select baseball, AAU basketball, and select soccer? These are all real concerns for coaches of those sports. Could football fall into that trap? There would be safety and medical concerns for non UIL football. Would those leagues and select teams protect players like the UIL? What about the loss of coaching and athletic training expertise? It’s in place for UIL schools. Would it for alternatives? End of the day...... kids are going to play football this fall. One way or another. in the sandlot, on a travel/select team, or in a pop up league. Wouldnt it just be better if UIL proceeds normally and let each district decide if they participate or not based on their communities’s health? thoughts??? The consequences is the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Mavchamp said: No one loves HSFB more than me! But it’s just not the same without the band. No atmosphere... no pep. Abd makes halftime feel like it’s 3 hours long. Bring on the band! I get what you’re saying and agree with it but would you still feel the same way if bands counted against 50% capacity (if it came to that)? I feel like I would still want bands there. Music, sound, drum lines....... surely would be better than half full bleachers with half of them either scrolling through Facebook or gossiping about who’s sleeping with who and not even paying attention to game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Not as weird as wrastlin’ fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 6 hours ago, NATUREBOY98 said: Well Trueblue hit me with some since I said it was Mavchamp. Told y’all band folks are weird. When it comes to flinging at people talking down on the band, I’m like a monkey on crack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastTxFinest Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, NATUREBOY98 said: @EastTxFinest what gave you the ’s? DQ in Omaha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 59 minutes ago, EastTxFinest said: DQ in Omaha You went to Nebraska in search of one of them corn-fed gals, didn’t you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastTxFinest Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 hours ago, trueblue82 said: You went to Nebraska in search of one of them corn-fed gals, didn’t you? I got one of those from Louisiana lol and her attitude is was worse than any female from Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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