BEARDEDGOAT Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Brock is open. They have had a ton of success of late. Do you think they stay in house since they've been so good or open it up? If they do open it up they will get some BIG names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, BEARDEDGOAT said: Brock is open. They have had a ton of success of late. Do you think they stay in house since they've been so good or open it up? If they do open it up they will get some BIG names. They will more than likely stay in house. This is NOT an AD job. Tough to get BIG names without the AD role and money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARDEDGOAT Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, playactionpass39 said: They will more than likely stay in house. This is NOT an AD job. Tough to get BIG names without the AD role and money. Ahhhh yeah I didn't know they were split. You're right, it'll be hard to get the money right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, BEARDEDGOAT said: Ahhhh yeah I didn't know they were split. You're right, it'll be hard to get the money right. Not just the money, but the CONTROL is a big hang up for many Head Football Coaches. It is an EGO thing. They don't like answering to anybody but the Superintendent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyJohnson Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I bet more are interested than we think. Winning and having the chance to always be competitive is a huge draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeKlabBeers Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Who is the AD at Brock? Please don't tell me it's the basketball coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, CDubya936 said: I bet more are interested than we think. Winning and having the chance to always be competitive is a huge draw. Not being rude, so don't take this as an attack. How many HFC do know well? The ones I know have huge ego's. Not sure many HFC's that want to take direction from a former Head Baseball Coach who has never coached football. Brock has a great Athletic Program and has success in every sport. But, it takes a special personality to work within this environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, DeKlabBeers said: Who is the AD at Brock? Please don't tell me it's the basketball coach. Former Head Baseball Coach, he does not coach anything, simply AD only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIMRIGGINS Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, playactionpass39 said: Former Head Baseball Coach, he does not coach anything, simply AD only. Heck of a gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickarick Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Probably get every 5-6A up and coming coordinator application. Great place to stay and have success to get your experience, then work to your AD/ HFC role. But at a lot of school are moving to the AD only role. Some big 4A have them and 5A-6A its common place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyJohnson Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, playactionpass39 said: Not being rude, so don't take this as an attack. How many HFC do know well? The ones I know have huge ego's. Not sure many HFC's that want to take direction from a former Head Baseball Coach who has never coached football. Brock has a great Athletic Program and has success in every sport. But, it takes a special personality to work within this environment. Oh no offense taken. Well, I have worked for HFC that are not the AD. I have worked for HFC/AD in the past. I can see it going both ways. Will not say whether or not I am currently coaching (or where I have been), but I am about as familiar with how this goes as a smoaky user can possibly be. I have been in this game for a while. The district I worked in with a non football AD and the hfc had no issues at all. I can certainly see where you are coming from though. I just think that a history of winning will be more appealing than absolute power to some people. Also, Brock is an A+ school district and community. Has tons of appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, CDubya936 said: Oh no offense taken. Well, I have worked for HFC that are not the AD. I have worked for HFC/AD in the past. I can see it going both ways. Will not say whether or not I am currently coaching (or where I have been), but I am about as familiar with how this goes as a smoaky user can possibly be. I have been in this game for a while. The district I worked in with a non football AD and the hfc had no issues at all. I can certainly see where you are coming from though. I just think that a history of winning will be more appealing than absolute power to some people. Also, Brock is an A+ school district and community. Has tons of appeal. I agree with everything you said. Brock is a great job. Great District. Great kids. Great community. Great opportunity to win it all. BUT, the BIG names are not flocking to a position where they are not the BOSS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyJohnson Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, playactionpass39 said: I agree with everything you said. Brock is a great job. Great District. Great kids. Great community. Great opportunity to win it all. BUT, the BIG names are not flocking to a position where they are not the BOSS. I do agree with that. No big kahunas will put in for this, but a great opportunity for a big coordinator to get a HFC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomuser Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I too, have been around the block in coaching. 35 years with all but 4 years being in 5-6A. They’re a lot of successful coaches on that level that aren’t AD’s nor AC’s. A lot more than you think don’t want the pains of being the AD or AC for not very much more money. A lot of HFC’s just want to coach ball and not deal with all the other BS. More than you would think. IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 If this job goes outside of the current staff with the supt's ties to Allen could see someone from that coaching tree involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickarick Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, MattStepp said: If this job goes outside of the current staff with the supt's ties to Allen could see someone from that coaching tree involved Possibly.. Woodard is from a football family been there a while. Was on staff at henderson when they won it, ( Ricky, JB, Barker,Brown, (HIghlander was on staff before the run), Strickland All became head coaches. Maybe the next one. May not have coordinator experience but has been at allen a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeKlabBeers Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, BEARDEDGOAT said: Brock is open. They have had a ton of success of late. Do you think they stay in house since they've been so good or open it up? If they do open it up they will get some BIG names. Powerhouse? Brock is a basketball school. Always has been, always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShirtD Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 8 hours ago, playactionpass39 said: They will more than likely stay in house. This is NOT an AD job. Tough to get BIG names without the AD role and money. They don’t need big names. They will win regardless of the hire, well SHOULD win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow2254 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 4 hours ago, DeKlabBeers said: Powerhouse? Brock is a basketball school. Always has been, always will be. 91-12 the last 7 years with a state title is most definitely a powerhouse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Slickarick said: Possibly.. Woodard is from a football family been there a while. Was on staff at henderson when they won it, ( Ricky, JB, Barker,Brown, (HIghlander was on staff before the run), Strickland All became head coaches. Maybe the next one. May not have coordinator experience but has been at allen a while. How many of those won elsewhere.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlah Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 In house, I was looking at the assistant coaches last year at Brock, and Keith Wood was the AD/HFC at Hico for several years. He turned that program round . When he left that program fell apart. Might be a name to watch on that group if he is even interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsjunkiee Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Brock has success is pretty much all boys/girls sports. They must be doing something right in terms of wanting an overall successful athletic program. I doubt they are concerned with how everyone else does it. In fact, I would think other small schools would like to follow the Brock model. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIMRIGGINS Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 16 hours ago, DeKlabBeers said: Powerhouse? Brock is a basketball school. Always has been, always will be. power house there too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centex1 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, TIMRIGGINS said: power house there too! Heard Eric Taylor was sighted in Brock today. Coach Mac will be the OC and Smash is going to be running backs coach. Riggins will come to the games but he was too busy building his house. Texas Forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeKlabBeers Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Crow2254 said: 91-12 the last 7 years with a state title is most definitely a powerhouse. What's their record prior to the last 7 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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