Monte1076 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I was told that the UIL is considering a 7A. Has anyone else heard this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I can’t see them going through with 7A before splitting 6A in football. That would completely change the entire landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nationalpastime Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I've heard adding a 7A was a possibility after the last couple of realignments. IMO it would make sense because you have some small 4A's that are playing against schools that have nearly 3 times their enrollment. I know there's more to the UIL than 4A, but we'll see. I don't see it happening within the next 2 alignments because enrollment throughout the state is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 If 6A schools won’t even vote to split football based on travels, there’s no way they’re voting for a 7A. The travel at the top class would be unbelievable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, LoboFan07 said: If 6A schools won’t even vote to split football based on travels, there’s no way they’re voting for a 7A. The travel at the top class would be unbelievable. So who’s going to be the first school to start flying their team to games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Tatum_DirtyBird said: So who’s going to be the first school to start flying their team to games? I've heard of matchups where it would have been faster. I know Ennis played Canutillo in 2014 in a Semifinal game, and they met in Lubbock, which was about 5 hours for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Tatum_DirtyBird said: So who’s going to be the first school to start flying their team to games? Longview flew to Lubbock to face Permian back in '75. But yea, I feel like it would be a lot of long, long bus rides if 7A was created right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehoncho Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 This just doesn't seem like a good idea at all right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I think a 6a split would happen first....and they have looked into that and it present some nightmare travel situation mainly with the El Paso region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, AllGoodNamesRGone said: Regular season game? Surprised that was scheduled especially back in the day. That was a long ride must have been since Mid dessa ( in between what they call it) airport lol. State Semi-Finals vs Permian. I know Marshall played Permian in the late 80s in non-district. I have to imagine one of them flew. I know our boys rode buses to Midland when we played Midland Lee in 2000 to open the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, AllGoodNamesRGone said: Just split 6a like the rest. No perfect model but is working tremendously for the rest of the classes. They've put it up for a vote twice already, and both times it was voted down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 9 hours ago, LoboFan07 said: If 6A schools won’t even vote to split football based on travels, there’s no way they’re voting for a 7A. The travel at the top class would be unbelievable. Just look at how bad it is in 5A D1. Travel for Longview is way worse than it was in 6A...lot different going to Sherman and McKinney than Rockwall and Mesquite. West Texas would be a massive mess. Increased travel + you'll still have schools playing other schools with over 2,000-3,000 enrollment difference, solving absolutely nothing. No way they'll pre-split 6A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 4 hours ago, AllGoodNamesRGone said: Regular season game? Surprised that was scheduled especially back in the day. That was a long ride must have been since Mid dessa ( in between what they call it) airport lol. They used to play Abilene in the early 80's for about 3 or 4 years. I didn't know they took a plane back then, but Texas International Airlines was flying out of Gregg Co. airport at the time. I think there will eventually be a 7A, but how soon I don't think anyone knows for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlah Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 11 hours ago, LoboFan07 said: If 6A schools won’t even vote to split football based on travels, there’s no way they’re voting for a 7A. The travel at the top class would be unbelievable. My niece went to San Angelo Central a few years ago. Her basketball games took her to Amarillo twice a year. She would not get home about 4 or 5am on a school day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckNut Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 The largest 32 schools in Texas should be 7a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 8 hours ago, BuckNut said: The largest 32 schools in Texas should be 7a 32 seems kind of small. And random. But at some point today I’m going to show what a district in 7A would look like with 32.... or even 64 schools. The travel would be ridiculous.... I’m really trying to see what benefit it serves TBH. Because it all looks to have negative effects on something. Cost. Time. Fans. Revenue loss. Possibly kills traditional rivalries. What‘s the positive side? I see none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Mavchamp said: What‘s the positive side? I see none. Agreed. Just go with the 6A split, and let it be what it is. We have 12 classes in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 11 hours ago, BuckNut said: The largest 32 schools in Texas should be 7a To say that is a terrible idea is an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyJohnson Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 6A split and adjust the numbers accordingly. If 6A splits then expect some of the larger 5A Div 1 schools to get moved up. The enrollment cutoffs will be effected for everybody 1A-6A. Make everything split a little more evenly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, CDubya936 said: 6A split and adjust the numbers accordingly. If 6A splits then expect some of the larger 5A Div 1 schools to get moved up. The enrollment cutoffs will be effected for everybody 1A-6A. Make everything split a little more evenly. Readjusting the numbers like that could possibly fix some of the 3A/4A "issues" too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyJohnson Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, Valhalla said: Readjusting the numbers like that could possibly fix some of the 3A/4A "issues" too. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nationalpastime Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 hours ago, CDubya936 said: 6A split and adjust the numbers accordingly. If 6A splits then expect some of the larger 5A Div 1 schools to get moved up. The enrollment cutoffs will be effected for everybody 1A-6A. Make everything split a little more evenly. I agree with this. I also know there's not a perfect scenario out there, but I really feel like it will alleviate some of the issues that happen in the lower classifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIMRIGGINS Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 7:19 AM, LoboFan07 said: I can’t see them going through with 7A before splitting 6A in football. That would completely change the entire landscape. I agree, this would be the first step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 This is my mock 7A alignment. The 7A cutoff for this alignment would be 2,771 and up. This is based on last year's numbers.... and doesn't account for new schools or decreasing enrollments or districts asking for schools to play up. So there are undoubtably some schools on here that shouldn't be and some that should be that aren't. I tried to make it as geographically feasible as possible.... but some of these distances are wild. Enjoy! District 1 El Paso Franklin San Angelo Central Midland Lee Midland High Odessa Odessa Permian Wolfforth Frenship District 2 Arlington Lamar Arlington Martin Arlington Sam Houston Arlington Grand Prairie South Grand Prairie Euless Trinity Southlake Carroll Duncanville DeSotoDistrict 3 Flower Mound Lewisville Hebron Coppell Flower Mound Marcus Lewisville Keller Keller Timbercreek Hurst Bell Irving Irving McArthurDistrict 4 Allen Plano West Plano East Plano McKinney McKinney Boyd District 5 Dallas Skyline Mesquite Horn Garland Sache Wylie Rockwall Richardson Lake Highlands Richardson District 6 Killeen Killeen Ellison Killeen Harker Heights Killeen Shoemaker Belton Lake BeltonDistrict 7 The Woodlands Conroe Woodlands College Park Spring Humble Atascocita Spring Westfield Conroe Grand Oaks District 8 Aldine Macarthur Aldine Benjamin Aldine Aldine EIsenhower Klien Forrest Klien Oak Klien Klien Collins Klien CainDistrict 9 Cypress Bridgeland Cypress Ranch Cypress Ridge Cypress Creek Cypress Lakes Cypress Fair Cypress Woods Cypress FallsDistrict 10 Katy Taylor Katy Tomkins Katy 7 Lakes Katy Cinco Katy Katy Mayde Creek Alief Elsik Alief Hastings Alief TaylorDistrict 11 Jersey Village Langham Creek Spring Branch Northbrook Houston Sam Houston Houston Westside Houston Lamar CE King Houston Bellaire Houston ChavezDistrict 12 Deer Park Pearland Pearland Dawson Dickinson Pasadena Sam Rayburn League City Clear Springs Alvin Fort Bend Travis ChannelviewDistrict 13 Austin Westlake Lake Travis Del Valle Round Rock Round Rock Cedar Ridge Round Rock Westwood Austin Bowie Round Rock Stoney PointDistrict 14 San Antonio Lee San Antonio East Central San Antonio Reagan San Antonio Conner San Antonio Madison San Antonio JohnsonDistrict 15 San Antonio Warren San Antonio Clark San Antonio Stevens San Antonio Jay San Antonio Harland San Antonio Brandeis Smithson Valley District 16 Laredo United Los Fresnos Laredo United South Laredo Johnson Harlingen San Benito Laredo Alexander Del Rio La Joya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, Mavchamp said: This is my mock 7A alignment. The 7A cutoff for this alignment would be 2,771 and up. This is based on last year's numbers.... and doesn't account for new schools or decreasing enrollments or districts asking for schools to play up. So there are undoubtably some schools on here that shouldn't be and some that should be that aren't. I tried to make it as geographically feasible as possible.... but some of these distances are wild. Enjoy! District 1 El Paso Franklin San Angelo Central Midland Lee Midland High Odessa Odessa Permian Wolfforth Frenship District 2 Arlington Lamar Arlington Martin Arlington Sam Houston Arlington Grand Prairie South Grand Prairie Euless Trinity Southlake Carroll Duncanville DeSotoDistrict 3 Flower Mound Lewisville Hebron Coppell Flower Mound Marcus Lewisville Keller Keller Timbercreek Hurst Bell Irving Irving McArthurDistrict 4 Allen Plano West Plano East Plano McKinney McKinney Boyd District 5 Dallas Skyline Mesquite Horn Garland Sache Wylie Rockwall Richardson Lake Highlands Richardson District 6 Killeen Killeen Ellison Killeen Harker Heights Killeen Shoemaker Belton Lake BeltonDistrict 7 The Woodlands Conroe Woodlands College Park Spring Humble Atascocita Spring Westfield Conroe Grand Oaks District 8 Aldine Macarthur Aldine Benjamin Aldine Aldine EIsenhower Klien Forrest Klien Oak Klien Klien Collins Klien CainDistrict 9 Cypress Bridgeland Cypress Ranch Cypress Ridge Cypress Creek Cypress Lakes Cypress Fair Cypress Woods Cypress FallsDistrict 10 Katy Taylor Katy Tomkins Katy 7 Lakes Katy Cinco Katy Katy Mayde Creek Alief Elsik Alief Hastings Alief TaylorDistrict 11 Jersey Village Langham Creek Spring Branch Northbrook Houston Sam Houston Houston Westside Houston Lamar CE King Houston Bellaire Houston ChavezDistrict 12 Deer Park Pearland Pearland Dawson Dickinson Pasadena Sam Rayburn League City Clear Springs Alvin Fort Bend Travis ChannelviewDistrict 13 Austin Westlake Lake Travis Del Valle Round Rock Round Rock Cedar Ridge Round Rock Westwood Austin Bowie Round Rock Stoney PointDistrict 14 San Antonio Lee San Antonio East Central San Antonio Reagan San Antonio Conner San Antonio Madison San Antonio JohnsonDistrict 15 San Antonio Warren San Antonio Clark San Antonio Stevens San Antonio Jay San Antonio Harland San Antonio Brandeis Smithson Valley District 16 Laredo United Los Fresnos Laredo United South Laredo Johnson Harlingen San Benito Laredo Alexander Del Rio La Joya Couple of observations: District 1: El Paso to San Angelo is 401 miles one way El Paso to Midland is 306 miles District 2: ET, SLC, DeSoto, and Duncanville make this the top district in the state... and there are some other strong candidates in there too. District 3: Drive time from Lewisville to Irving is estimated at 7 hours and 31 mins..... jk District 4: This is one way for Plano schools to get back in to the playoffs. District 5: Pretty interesting district. Not a juggernaut by any means...but it would be competitive. District 6: Yawn. District 7: That would be a fun district to watch. District 8: Another competitive district District 9: Cypress ISD is a beast...at building schools. District 10: Katy Katy Katy District 11: A wild mix of suburban and inner city. District 12: No clear heavyweights here. This could be anyones district every season. District 13: Westlake and LT own this district. Round Rock considers another HS so they can drop their schools back to 6A. District 14 and 15 How long as it been since a SAISD school has been a true contender? District 16: 473 miles from Harlingen to Del Rio All the driving for this district is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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