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6 minutes ago, DannyZuco said:

How does one get the name "Dixie State" when they are NORTH of the Mason-Dixon Line? 

From their website:

HOW WE GOT OUR NAME

Dixie State University came by its name through many changes. In 1888, the LDS Church established the St. George Stake Academy. After functioning for five years in the basement of the St. George Tabernacle, it was closed. Then in 1909, Stake President Edward H. Snow, who also served in the State Legislature and the state government in Salt Lake City, began urging LDS central leaders to authorize the founding of a high school in St. George under their sponsorship. Snow argued that students in Washington County who wanted to graduate from high school had to travel outside the county at considerable expense to do so. With the support of Apostle Francis M. Lyman, who visited St. George for a stake conference, the Church agreed. A building was constructed on the town square using funds from both the central Church and from the local congregations between 1909 and 1911.

  • 1911–1913 – ST. GEORGE STAKE ACADEMY
  • 1913–1916 – DIXIE ACADEMY
  • 1916–1923 – DIXIE NORMAL COLLEGE
  • 1923–1970 – DIXIE JUNIOR COLLEGE
  • 1970–2000 – DIXIE COLLEGE
  • 2000–2013 – DIXIE STATE COLLEGE OF UTAH
  • 2013–PRESENT – DIXIE STATE UNIVERSITY

When it opened, the institution was called “The St. George Stake Academy.” It offered three years of high school and in 1912 the fourth year was added, allowing students to graduate from high school. In 1914, a year of teacher preparation was added and in 1916 the second year of college courses were begun. As a consequence of those changes, the school’s name was changed to “Dixie Normal College.”

Why did they use the name “Dixie”? It was the result of the community’s aspiration. The name “Dixie” was already used to identify the area. Within a year of the school’s beginning, students wrote the word “Dixie” on the Red Hill overlooking the town. The next year they painted the letter “D” on the Black Hill. The locals wanted the name “Dixie” linked to their high school. That attitude has continued generation after generation. When the students published their first yearbook it was called “The Dixie.”

In 1923, the word “Normal” (meaning teacher preparation) from the college name was removed because many students were taking two years of college in fields other than education. The name “Dixie Junior College” was then adopted. That name was retained until 1972 when the name was changed to “Dixie College.” In 2000 the next major development occurred. Following a long effort by a local citizen committee, the Utah State Legislature authorized Dixie to become a four-year state college with the name “Dixie State College.” Two-year degrees (Associate Degrees) were still offered but so were four-year Bachelor’s degrees. The institution did not abandon its role as a community college but added focus on four-year programs in many fields. Much of this expansion was linked to the amazing growth of the county that was ten times its population in 1965. In 2013, the Utah State Legislature expanded the role of the institution to become a university. After much debate on campus and among the alumni and community, the name “Dixie” was retained, resulting in the designation “Dixie State University.”

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2 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said:

From their website:

HOW WE GOT OUR NAME

Dixie State University came by its name through many changes. In 1888, the LDS Church established the St. George Stake Academy. After functioning for five years in the basement of the St. George Tabernacle, it was closed. Then in 1909, Stake President Edward H. Snow, who also served in the State Legislature and the state government in Salt Lake City, began urging LDS central leaders to authorize the founding of a high school in St. George under their sponsorship. Snow argued that students in Washington County who wanted to graduate from high school had to travel outside the county at considerable expense to do so. With the support of Apostle Francis M. Lyman, who visited St. George for a stake conference, the Church agreed. A building was constructed on the town square using funds from both the central Church and from the local congregations between 1909 and 1911.

  • 1911–1913 – ST. GEORGE STAKE ACADEMY
  • 1913–1916 – DIXIE ACADEMY
  • 1916–1923 – DIXIE NORMAL COLLEGE
  • 1923–1970 – DIXIE JUNIOR COLLEGE
  • 1970–2000 – DIXIE COLLEGE
  • 2000–2013 – DIXIE STATE COLLEGE OF UTAH
  • 2013–PRESENT – DIXIE STATE UNIVERSITY

When it opened, the institution was called “The St. George Stake Academy.” It offered three years of high school and in 1912 the fourth year was added, allowing students to graduate from high school. In 1914, a year of teacher preparation was added and in 1916 the second year of college courses were begun. As a consequence of those changes, the school’s name was changed to “Dixie Normal College.”

Why did they use the name “Dixie”? It was the result of the community’s aspiration. The name “Dixie” was already used to identify the area. Within a year of the school’s beginning, students wrote the word “Dixie” on the Red Hill overlooking the town. The next year they painted the letter “D” on the Black Hill. The locals wanted the name “Dixie” linked to their high school. That attitude has continued generation after generation. When the students published their first yearbook it was called “The Dixie.”

In 1923, the word “Normal” (meaning teacher preparation) from the college name was removed because many students were taking two years of college in fields other than education. The name “Dixie Junior College” was then adopted. That name was retained until 1972 when the name was changed to “Dixie College.” In 2000 the next major development occurred. Following a long effort by a local citizen committee, the Utah State Legislature authorized Dixie to become a four-year state college with the name “Dixie State College.” Two-year degrees (Associate Degrees) were still offered but so were four-year Bachelor’s degrees. The institution did not abandon its role as a community college but added focus on four-year programs in many fields. Much of this expansion was linked to the amazing growth of the county that was ten times its population in 1965. In 2013, the Utah State Legislature expanded the role of the institution to become a university. After much debate on campus and among the alumni and community, the name “Dixie” was retained, resulting in the designation “Dixie State University.”

Well, I guess I got my history lesson in for today. 

 

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15 hours ago, Coach0001 said:

The move to the WAC looking even better after the Texas and OU news.

The WAC may have name recognition from the past--back when BYU was winning national championships--but the reality is--it isn't a powerhouse conference in any sport yet, and possibly the sport they will have any power in will be basketball--but football has a LONG way to go as a conference, Sam Houston has been very good lately, but the rest of the conference football teams--well, SFA was on TV a lot last year--because they were one of the few schools that played football and would play anyone for a buck. LOL.

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Texas and OU leaving for the SEC makes the WAC move look better because the long term plans.

Part of the 10-year plan is a potential FBS jump. If the SEC and other P5 conferences turn leave the NCAA and form their own alliance, it opens the door for the WAC to join the FBS. Name recognition for basketball plays a role there, but isn't too far fetched to happen...

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On 7/28/2021 at 8:26 AM, DannyZuco said:

The WAC may have name recognition from the past--back when BYU was winning national championships--but the reality is--it isn't a powerhouse conference in any sport yet, and possibly the sport they will have any power in will be basketball--but football has a LONG way to go as a conference, Sam Houston has been very good lately, but the rest of the conference football teams--well, SFA was on TV a lot last year--because they were one of the few schools that played football and would play anyone for a buck. LOL.

Topher hit on this with his post 

The move to the WAC one of the factors was based on the fact that the P5 was about to pull out of the NCAA! Then  do their own thing in the next 5 years

That looks like a good bet based on the last few weeks events with Texas and OU and other rumblings 

The thought process then what is left of G5 will form the new Div 1 for NCAA if that is the case. Then it will be desired to be in that division. 

As things are now constructed SHSU has no desire to be in FBS!  It is preferred to be involved in deep FCS playoff runs most years in December.

Rather than maybe playing in obscure bowl game somewhere.

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On 8/2/2021 at 10:57 AM, Coach0001 said:

Topher hit on this with his post 

The move to the WAC one of the factors was based on the fact that the P5 was about to pull out of the NCAA! Then  do their own thing in the next 5 years

That looks like a good bet based on the last few weeks events with Texas and OU and other rumblings 

The thought process then what is left of G5 will form the new Div 1 for NCAA if that is the case. Then it will be desired to be in that division. 

As things are now constructed SHSU has no desire to be in FBS!  It is preferred to be involved in deep FCS playoff runs most years in December.

Rather than maybe playing in obscure bowl game somewhere.

We can all sit around an speculate about what will happen, but until you get into the big leagues, you are just another school playing the big boys for the almighty $$$$$$$. 

And with people thinking and wishing for "super conferences"--we will continue to have 16 people in a little room--well maybe not little--picking who we are watching in a "playoff situation". 

More teams needed for a playoff system--more conference champions in those games--all conference champions. With just a few "at-large" picks. Instead of the 31/32 that we get for basketball--and use the bowl games as a playoff format. 

Maybe we could re-ignite the old Southwest Conference. LOL. 

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2 hours ago, DannyZuco said:

Upgrades, courtesy of playing anyone anywhere last year for the big bucks. LOL.

I hope they get some wins in football this year. I would expect the basketball team to be in the tournament, if they are not ineligible again this year. 

Football will be vastly improved. I expect wins and them to be competitive in every game minus the trip to Lubbock. If that is competitive for more than a half, that says more about Tech than SFA...

Basketball is eligible and will be VERY good. High expectations for this group...

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