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16 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

King reminds me of case McCoy at first glance.  

It's hard for me to make a comp on King...especially compared to past Longhorn QBs.

I know the Justin Fields comparison has been thrown around since he was in HS but eh. Maybe like a faster version of Matt Flynn.

I do think Thompson is better than Card and has some gifts of his own as well.

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5 minutes ago, ANTI said:

It's hard for me to make a comp on King...especially compared to past Longhorn QBs.

I know the Justin Fields comparison has been thrown around since he was in HS but eh. Maybe like a faster version of Matt Flynn.

I do think Thompson is better than Card and has some gifts of his own as well.

I say case McCoy due to slighter build, not the strongest arm.  I was not impressed with his arm strength coming out of high school.  But you’ve called me a casual before so I may not know 

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1 hour ago, ANTI said:

You said that you saw Kitan Crawford catch a few INTs from King.

You saw nothing because that was definitely not true....he caught one. Now you're switching it up talking about the total picks that he threw in the game. And I'm the one with a narrative. Yeah, okay.

I dont bring narratives to sports. Casuals who never played the game are into that business.

Need I remind you that I am not an Aggie fan. I just know talent when I see it....pure football minded. Not fanboy minded.

When I judge a QBs talent level...I judge it by his total body of work + skills (the eye test). Not just one bad game that you happen to see on TV.

 

LOL AGAIN!!! Your post sounds 100% like a fanboy "armchair" QB. You might be a head coach, coordinator, or even Hayne's dad, but this post above is hilariously childish. So what if I thought one player had 2 of the 3 picks - it doesn't change the stat line that King had a bad game. And that game doesn't define him or his future. 

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The thing about King is that he has never really focused on football. He's been an all around athlete that has barely tapped his potential at the position. 

I do think arm strength was a concern but that could simply be he was probably 170 pounds when he got to A&M 😂. Just the natural bulk up to a solid 210 or so playing weight would add tons of strength to his arm IMO. But make no mistake he is not a guy that runs and can throw a little bit. He has good accuracy and has very nice touch on deep throws. His legs are an asset not his main strength. He's not a Heard type player like mentioned above. 

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48 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

I say case McCoy due to slighter build, not the strongest arm.  I was not impressed with his arm strength coming out of high school.  But you’ve called me a casual before so I may not know 

Arm strength is actually a strong suit for him. Accuracy too.

Timing in cat coverage on routes outside of the numbers would be my biggest concern for King coming out of HS....but that's also something that I've seen him improve on since being on the A&M campus.

We'll see.

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40 minutes ago, WETSU said:

The thing about King is that he has never really focused on football. He's been an all around athlete that has barely tapped his potential at the position. 

I do think arm strength was a concern but that could simply be he was probably 170 pounds when he got to A&M 😂. Just the natural bulk up to a solid 210 or so playing weight would add tons of strength to his arm IMO. But make no mistake he is not a guy that runs and can throw a little bit. He has good accuracy and has very nice touch on deep throws. His legs are an asset not his main strength. He's not a Heard type player like mentioned above. 

Right, the starting QB son of the Head football coach of a 6A school didn’t focus on football. 
 

I know the kid played basketball and ran track, but let’s not pretend that his life wasn’t all about football.

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6 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

Right, the starting QB son of the Head football coach of a 6A school didn’t focus on football. 

I meant exclusively. Like he's not one of those kids that worked with a private QB coach hitting the camp circuits all spring/summer. He played multiple sports and worked on things that did not just benefit him as a football player. He has not given 100℅ focus towards improving his body and technique the way many elite qb recruits do. 

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2 hours ago, Valhalla said:

The SEC isn’t going to be some magic bandage for all the problems Texas has had the last decade. 
 

If Texas didn’t #### for a decade they might not even be joining the SEC.

I don't remember anybody saying that would be the case.

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I didn't think this would go down.  After listening to the radio today, I think it's a done deal.  I think it's a terrible move.  I realize that they have expanded the playoffs, but it will mean less teams from the SEC in.  The Big XII can bring in two more teams, and I would say that the Big XII winner will still make the playoffs.  OU was almost always in the playoffs, and they're throwing that away.  I realize they're going to make more money in the SEC, but they're going to have to pay $79 million to leave the Big XII.  That could be chump change to them.  To me it just means they're more interested in the $$$ than competing for a championship.  

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4 hours ago, Valhalla said:

The SEC isn’t going to be some magic bandage for all the problems Texas has had the last decade. 
 

If Texas didn’t #### for a decade they might not even be joining the SEC.

This is correct. The Sec is taking OU for its on field actions. The Sec is taking Texas for its revenue off the field. Until Texas can win football game at the high level, that’s what these 2 universities bring to the Sec. 

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1 hour ago, JustAFan11 said:

This is correct. The Sec is taking OU for its on field actions. The Sec is taking Texas for its revenue off the field. Until Texas can win football game at the high level, that’s what these 2 universities bring to the Sec. 

Assuming the move to the SEC happens in 2022, the 2021 product on the field could be huge for the Longhorns………If Sark has the 2021 Horns playing well and wins 10+ games, recruiting and transfers probably goes really well. 
2021 Horns win 7 or less games, it probably is going to be very few 5 stars and really good transfers coming to Austin until winning(somehow) picks up. 

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8 hours ago, cotton84 said:

Assuming the move to the SEC happens in 2022, the 2021 product on the field could be huge for the Longhorns………If Sark has the 2021 Horns playing well and wins 10+ games, recruiting and transfers probably goes really well. 
2021 Horns win 7 or less games, it probably is going to be very few 5 stars and really good transfers coming to Austin until winning(somehow) picks up. 

I don’t disagree that success on the field leads to better recruiting. However, there is a  recent example that proves  it can be more about the recruiting process itself than about the product on the field. Alabama recruited the 2008 class (which was the foundation for the 2009 national championship, which was the springboard for the dynasty) during and after a 7-6 2007 season. It’s simply about getting kids to buy into what you’re selling. UT has an advantage Saban didn’t have then, too. They are the largest, most prestigious university with the best football tradition in the most talent-rich state in the country. If a recruiting staff is doing its job, Longhorn football should basically sell itself. 

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