trashyhound Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Sportsguru02 said: Man how man how often doe u see teams that run it that win. Yes u might have a couple but overall those teams not winning at the higher levels Exactly. If you watch championship weekend it’s about 10-1 Spread to ground and pound teams. That ratio tends hold up with most of the better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeCitizen Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, wingtveer said: PG has a great passing gm from their wing-t. Seen them win some big gms with it. If I’m correct, Pitt runs the Slot T. IMO the Wing T is a much better offense. People say they are the same. I don’t see it. Wing T is so much more versatile. Then you have to look at what your Offensive Linemen’s attitude are. In the Slot T especially, but really both, since they are run heavy. Your OL needs to be just as mean as your DL. Run blocking is a different animal than pass blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeCitizen Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Sportsguru02 said: Yes!!! I’ve seen several of those type of teams get down early and struggles to play catch up, because they don’t have enough passing to keep up. If I were a coach, the only way I’d use that type of offense is if it were small ball. Where 7 or more guys went both ways. Where my talent was low. If you can’t outrun anyone, you must try to trick them. Needless to say, that program will not be playing around Christmas. At least, not in the higher classifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayKing Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Van plays gimmick offences very well just look what they did to Palestine. Especially if you have zero passing threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingtveer Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 hours ago, ConservativeCitizen said: If I’m correct, Pitt runs the Slot T. IMO the Wing T is a much better offense. People say they are the same. I don’t see it. Wing T is so much more versatile. Then you have to look at what your Offensive Linemen’s attitude are. In the Slot T especially, but really both, since they are run heavy. Your OL needs to be just as mean as your DL. Run blocking is a different animal than pass blocking. They both run buck , trap, belly, tackle trap, bootleg, play action throwback, etc. Slot t hits quicker by alignment. Both have aggressive linemen for pulls and kick outs. Main difference is slot t doesn’t have the wideout unless they break formation. As for your 70-30 ratio stuff, no one enters a gm with that in mind. People talk about balance. Most coaches go with what is working run or pass no matter the formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeCitizen Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, wingtveer said: They both run buck , trap, belly, tackle trap, bootleg, play action throwback, etc. Slot t hits quicker by alignment. Both have aggressive linemen for pulls and kick outs. Main difference is slot t doesn’t have the wideout unless they break formation. As for your 70-30 ratio stuff, no one enters a gm with that in mind. People talk about balance. Most coaches go with what is working run or pass no matter the formation I just prefer the Wing T over the Slot T. The teams I’ve seen run the Slot have the linemen so close together, it looks like a dog pile before the ball is even snapped. I agree a coach has to cook with what’s in the kitchen. Your last statement is a given. Once a team advances in the playoffs, very rarely can they just do one or the other. The opposing team is also there for a reason, and probably has the coaching available to do adjustments in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETSportsfan87 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budmanmpfan Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Sorry Pitt but Van wins big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I’ll go with something like 38-12 Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate44 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 21-14 Pitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 58 minutes ago, Pirate44 said: 21-14 Pitt I'm pretty sure Van will score more than 21 tonight......it's Week 4 and time to let it fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle8 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, regaleagle said: I'm pretty sure Van will score more than 21 tonight......it's Week 4 and time to let it fly. Yeah, they aint holding Van to 14. Not happening. Next 4 games are Ls then they pick up their first win against North Lamar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyJohnson Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalman Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 28-6 Van halftime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalman Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 49-12 final. Gotta feel bad for the Pitt kids. Got some size and speed. Maybe they can get it going but just not real sure about that offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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