CreateMyAccount Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, ConservativeCitizen said: You against vaccine mandates? Partially, if the workers voted for them, then I would be for them, if not, I am hesitant. I do view the vaccine as a positive of course, but the only people who should be mandating them should be the people who have to take them. If a majority of the employees voted for them, I would be for the mandate at that specific workplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeCitizen Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, CreateMyAccount said: Partially, if the workers voted for them, then I would be for them, if not, I am hesitant. I do view the vaccine as a positive of course, but the only people who should be mandating them should be the people who have to take them. If a majority of the employees voted for them, I would be for the mandate at that specific workplace. You do know that “majority rule” can be dangerous? It’s why we were founded as a Republic. I shouldn’t be able to force you to do anything to your body. No matter how many people I can get behind me to make you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, CreateMyAccount said: I wish I could vote with the socialists/communists, but there are none to vote for, sadly. All I see on the ballots are neoliberals. If there was an actual left winged candidate, I would most likely vote for them. I am all for democracy and freedom which can only come true in a system of socialism. Our elections aren't by the will of the people, it is by the will of the political parties, they control a large part of who is on the ballot. You can't be free when you live in a system that forces you to conform to the will of the rich. Democrats, Republicans, they are all the same, neoliberals who benefit the most from the current system and suppress any attempt away, you can see from the first and second red scares. We need to get rid of this government that prevents us from organizing labor and allow for us to have employee owned stores flourish as an example. I wish I could vote socialist/communist, but sadly, there are none to vote for. No need to vote for them. Hop on a plane to China. If that is too far, surely Cuba would do. Maybe Venezuela? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, CreateMyAccount said: Even if this was true, this would not make them socialist/communist, it would just make them corrupt, which almost every politician is, including Trump. Socialism/communism is an economic theory and what you are describing as socialism is not, it is just corruption. Trump was NOT a politician...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreateMyAccount Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, ConservativeCitizen said: You do know that “majority rule” can be dangerous? It’s why we were founded as a Republic. I shouldn’t be able to force you to do anything to your body. No matter how many people I can get behind me to make you. We were taught by the oligarchs that majority rule is bad because they want to keep their power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreateMyAccount Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, ObiOne said: No need to vote for them. Hop on a plane to China. If that is too far, surely Cuba would do. Maybe Venezuela? China is quite far from socialist or communist, they are officially, "socialism with Chinese characteristics." In other words, state capitalism, authoritarian in nature. Cuba is a bit of an enigma, they are authoritarian as well. Venezuela in the same boat. I am for socialism by the people, not by elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: You VOTED for Romney and McCain.....both socialists.....i did NOT....... What your pea brain fails to understand is that you have to control the agenda to get conservative priorities passed and BLOCK the progressive socialist agenda. To do that, you must control congress and the White House or at least enough of it to call the shots .... even with GWB we were far better off than had aLGore or the Hilldabeast been elected, God forbid ... getting 50% of what conservatives want is better than 0% ... yes even RINOs like Romney or McCain would have been better than the alternative dimocrat libtard .... why? .... because YOU HAVE TO CONTROL THE AGENDA .... that's not going to happen if you back 3rd party losers and that only helps elect liberal dimocrats .... your all or nothing strategy is a loser ... politics is a tactical game, it's like chess .... it's time you learn how the system works .... i don't like it worth a but that's the way the game is played until somebody is able to change it .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreateMyAccount Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Trump was NOT a politician...... He is an oligarch, part of the elite, then got elected and bent the knee... sounds like a politician. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, CreateMyAccount said: China is quite far from socialist or communist, they are officially, "socialism with Chinese characteristics." In other words, state capitalism, authoritarian in nature. Cuba is a bit of an enigma, they are authoritarian as well. Venezuela in the same boat. I am for socialism by the people, not by elites. You are for a utopian dream world that has never and can never exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreateMyAccount Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, ObiOne said: You are for a utopian dream world that has never and can never exist. That's what we've been taught due to oligarchs wanting to remain in power. It is not some utopian dream, we've gotten fed propaganda our entire life telling us so to keep people against their own class interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 46 minutes ago, CreateMyAccount said: Partially, if the workers voted for them, then I would be for them, if not, I am hesitant. I do view the vaccine as a positive of course, but the only people who should be mandating them should be the people who have to take them. If a majority of the employees voted for them, I would be for the mandate at that specific workplace. You should form the Flotsam Party, since you just go along with the tide.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeCitizen Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, CreateMyAccount said: We were taught by the oligarchs that majority rule is bad because they want to keep their power. Minority rights would be trampled. Put everything to a popular vote, and majority of things the left stand for would be shot down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, CreateMyAccount said: That's what we've been taught due to oligarchs wanting to remain in power. It is not some utopian dream, we've gotten fed propaganda our entire life telling us so to keep people against their own class interests. I'm all ears. Is this how inside prison government works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: What your pea brain fails to understand is that you have to control the agenda to get conservative priorities passed and BLOCK the progressive socialist agenda. To do that, you must control congress and the White House or at least enough of it to call the shots .... even with GWB we were far better off than had aLGore or the Hilldabeast been elected, God forbid ... getting 50% of what conservatives want is better than 0% ... yes even RINOs like Romney or McCain would have been better than the alternative dimocrat libtard .... why? .... because YOU HAVE TO CONTROL THE AGENDA .... that's not going to happen if you back 3rd party losers and that only helps elect liberal dimocrats .... your all or nothing strategy is a loser ... politics is a tactical game, it's like chess .... it's time you learn how the system works .... i don't like it worth a but that's the way the game is played until somebody is able to change it .... Commie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeCitizen Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, ObiOne said: I'm all ears. Is this how inside prison government works? He sounds like he leans left. I don’t think he knows the implications of mob rule. Most things they tout are not popular among the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, CreateMyAccount said: He is an oligarch, part of the elite, then got elected and bent the knee... sounds like a politician. Nope....he was totally INDEPENDENT from the Rothschilds....thats why every media and politician was against him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Commie You are clearly lost as a goose .... rock heads like you are why we end up with people like s and Slick Willie in office ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, KirtFalcon said: You are clearly lost as a goose .... rock heads like you are why we end up with people like s and Slick Willie in office ..... No you are the reason nothing changes....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: No you are the reason nothing changes....... I am leading the charge for change , you are as blind as a bat .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: I am leading the charge for change , you are as blind as a bat .... You are brainwashed and a commie...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: You are brainwashed and a commie...... You are a political and national security mental midget .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: You are a political and national security mental midget .... National security leads to fascism.....youre a commie....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: National security leads to fascism.....youre a commie....... So, get rid of the Military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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