Monte1076 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I know most schools in Texas run more modern offenses (Spread, Zone read, "Pro" style offenses, whatever). I know Ennis runs the Spread again (and I love it). But how many teams run "old school" offenses? Things like the Slot-T, Wing-T, Wishbone, Split Back Veer, etc? I don't necessarily consider the I-Formation "old school", so I'm not including it. And, what would you rather see your team run? I know the answer is probably "It doesn't matter as long as they win", but I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I’m assuming Harmony still runs the old Wing T? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueflu Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 kinda a fan of double slot option. Rogers and Gunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StingEmALTO Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Alto is back to its offense of the 90s with Coach Gamble re-installing the split back veer that his dad ran. We are averaging 39 points a game. If you take out the loss to Troup which was the first game to run the new offense and personnel in different positions than today, then we are averaging 46. We are 3-1 so I like it. Lol Suits our kids right now and it is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrclean69 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Pewitt, Pittsburg, Hughes Springs (Slot T), Pleasant Grove, Harmony, Harleton, Hawkins (Wing T), Waskom (Flexbone) and there are a couple 5A DFW schools flexbone as well. None of these are new to the systems. They've ran them for a while. Except Pittsburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Joaquin runs the slot-T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBizzle Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 It’s a hard thing to determine. Do you put in an offensive scheme and teach it from 7th grade on and make the kids fit your system, or do you adjust each year to your kids? I think you have a scheme, but modify how you run it to fit your strengths. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFootball Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 A few years ago Rockwall Heath ran the Single Wing which predates all of the above. I thought it was cool to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VZCR Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 If old school mean you can not or will not pass the ball effectively means you will not win it all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 DeKalb runs something I’d call a inverted wishbone but out of the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, StillGreezy said: I've seen it done. But I'm not sure what the advantage of taking the snap from the pistol provides. The wishbone likely won more college national championships than any other formation and is very fun to watch imho. Notre dame ran the (notre dame box)named after them in the 40/50’s direct snap to a back of their choice…was effective back in the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 17 hours ago, StillGreezy said: I've seen it done. But I'm not sure what the advantage of taking the snap from the pistol provides. The wishbone likely won more college national championships than any other formation and is very fun to watch imho. I have a book here at my house ("Blood, Sweat, and Chalk: The Ultimate Football Playbook") that has a chapter on the wishbone. There's a quote in it from Lou Holtz where he said (paraphrased): If a college hired me and told me they wanted to win a National Championship, I'd put in the wishbone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingtveer Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 12:34 PM, Monte1076 said: I know most schools in Texas run more modern offenses (Spread, Zone read, "Pro" style offenses, whatever). I know Ennis runs the Spread again (and I love it). But how many teams run "old school" offenses? Things like the Slot-T, Wing-T, Wishbone, Split Back Veer, etc? I don't necessarily consider the I-Formation "old school", so I'm not including it. And, what would you rather see your team run? I know the answer is probably "It doesn't matter as long as they win", but I'm just curious. I guess I’m a dinosaur. I love old school stuff like the belly, trap, counter, veer. I will say I love that Gunter runs it from a pistol set and it’s awesome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 4:26 PM, JohnnyFootball said: A few years ago Rockwall Heath ran the Single Wing which predates all of the above. I thought it was cool to watch. Wichita Falls Rider ran something similar to that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 3 hours ago, StillGreezy said: That 36 and 47 counter is really hard to stop. 1 hour ago, wingtveer said: I guess I’m a dinosaur. I love old school stuff like the belly, trap, counter, veer. I will say I love that Gunter runs it from a pistol set and it’s awesome. You can run those same concepts out of a Pistol set and tear things up. I don't know why it's not more common, reckon it's aging out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, StillGreezy said: I don't understand the advantage of running it from the pistol. There isn't one, but for all these newish Millennial coaches who were weaned on "da Spread" lining up under center and playing power football is often a hard sell. By gussying it up in the Pistol you can sprinkle in some "Air Raid" language and they won't freak out on you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, StillGreezy said: I know a football team that runs some kind of slot t something or other in the pistol. The coach said the quarterback can't take a snap under center. And refused to learn how. That kid would be a strong tackle at Joaquin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, trueblue82 said: That kid would be a strong tackle at Joaquin. D end maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, upullinmychain said: D end maybe? Gotta be real nasty to play D-end for Coach Lawson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickarick Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Terrell , Aubrey and paris all run Wing T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, StillGreezy said: I don't understand the advantage of running it from the pistol. The true pistol was started by Nevada university. The QB is only suppose to be 2 to 3yards from under center. It is only here in the last 7 years. Pistol has been ran out of the shot gun spread. With the QB being 5 yards off of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indaeast Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 1:10 PM, StingEmALTO said: Alto is back to its offense of the 90s with Coach Gamble re-installing the split back veer that his dad ran. We are averaging 39 points a game. If you take out the loss to Troup which was the first game to run the new offense and personnel in different positions than today, then we are averaging 46. We are 3-1 so I like it. Lol Suits our kids right now and it is working. And you didn’t play Timpson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryGoldwater Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Love the Wing T. Waskom’s flexbone is fun to watch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StingEmALTO Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Indaeast said: And you didn’t play Timpson. Sadly no. Many of our players (at least 6 starters on each side of the ball and not counting the second string) and about half the coaches were out with Covid; school was actually dismissed Thursday and Friday that week. It stunk and thank the good Lord we’re past that mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARDEDGOAT Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 6:26 PM, StillGreezy said: I don't understand the advantage of running it from the pistol. If you're running the option especially midline the two-three yard snap makes it easier to read. Gives the quarterback time to get his eyes on his read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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