maxjean Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 i hear some rumors that the cutoff numbers will stay near the same or lower because of the pandemic i kinda tend to believe this because it would be crazy to make a wild cutoff between divisions right now due to some smaller schools having decreased enrollments now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogbacker78 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I heard Cooper is around 215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 @LoboFan07 Do you have any of 7-5A D1 schools current enrollment numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, CUJONATION83 said: @LoboFan07 Do you have any of 7-5A D1 schools current enrollment numbers? Only the TEA numbers from last October. Highland Park: 2,212 Longview: 2,147 McKinney North: 2,171 Sherman: 2,015 Tyler: 2,073 West Mesquite: 2,272 Wylie East: 2,223 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, LoboFan07 said: Only the TEA numbers from last October. Highland Park: 2,212 Longview: 2,147 McKinney North: 2,171 Sherman: 2,015 Tyler: 2,073 West Mesquite: 2,272 Wylie East: 2,223 Ok thanks. I saw on the 5A board were Wylie East has a current enrollment of 2468. Definitely can see Tyler high and Longview with Red oak, Lancaster, and the Mansfield schools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, CUJONATION83 said: Ok thanks. I saw on the 5A board were Wylie East has a current enrollment of 2468. Definitely can see Tyler high and Longview with Red oak, Lancaster, and the Mansfield schools Yea, the TEA enrollments aren't going to be what we see turned into the UIL but they give us an idea at least. Lancaster is going to be on that bubble for sure as well. Longview/Red Oak/Mansfield ISD (there might only be one MISD team)/McKinney North/Highland Park maybe? It's gonna be interesting for sure if NF/RC go straight to 6A no doubt. Excited just to see some numbers next week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopscoach17 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Everyone remember that the process for the UIL starts with deciding how many 6A teams they want. Usually around 225 (but that seems to be decided by where Highland Park falls, lol). Then they start grouping schools for districts in 5A, then 4A, etc. There is no "magic" number for enrollment. It all has to do with drawing lines for each district. Sometimes it makes more sense to keep a couple of schools up in a division to balance out a district or two so that ends up being the cutoff enrollment number for that classification. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehard Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Joaquin has 240 going up ......3Ad2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indaeast Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 6 hours ago, GreaseLightning said: Joaquin has 240 going up ......3Ad2 Starting rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 11 hours ago, maxjean said: i hear some rumors that the cutoff numbers will stay near the same or lower because of the pandemic i kinda tend to believe this because it would be crazy to make a wild cutoff between divisions right now due to some smaller schools having decreased enrollments now. I’ve heard the influx of people that have moved to Texas in the last 2 years will more than offset the pandemic stuff. Most schools are back at 85-90% capacity…, so when you add the growth you’re almost back to full capacity. The bottom line is they have to have a certain numbers of schools in each division. It’s just math. Massive algorithm. Historically, it’s been 40 to 80 students increase for a while. So, I would expect a minimum of 40 student increase. But again, what drives the alignment are not individual school numbers, it’s how they fit the number of schools needed in each division. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionpride08 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Matt said: I’ve heard the influx of people that have moved to Texas in the last 2 years will more than offset the pandemic stuff. Most schools are back at 85-90% capacity…, so when you add the growth you’re almost back to full capacity. The bottom line is they have to have a certain numbers of schools in each division. It’s just math. Massive algorithm. Historically, it’s been 40 to 80 students increase for a while. So, I would expect a minimum of 40 student increase. But again, what drives the alignment are not individual school numbers, it’s how they fit the number of schools needed in each division. I agree im thinking a bigger jump then most think around a 40-50 increase. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIMRIGGINS Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 6:15 PM, AtlantaFan04 said: I've heard Atlanta is around the same size (480) as last go around. We get a lot of move ins but we also see a lot of kids that move out. Heard Tatum is around 500. I was told ATL was 505 last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryhawk111 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 PG and LE should both stay 4A D2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboslice79 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 10 hours ago, lionpride08 said: I agree im thinking a bigger jump then most think around a 40-50 increase. Absolutely no chance it moves more than 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 9:51 AM, LoboFan07 said: Only the TEA numbers from last October. Highland Park: 2,212 Longview: 2,147 McKinney North: 2,171 Sherman: 2,015 Tyler: 2,073 West Mesquite: 2,272 Wylie East: 2,223 other schools: Lufkin:2131 Royse City: 2048 North Forney:2043 Im thinking most of same district, minus West Mesq and Wylie East. and adding Royse City and North Forney or most of same district minus West Mesq/Wylie East/Sherman....adding Lancaster/Red Oak, Royse City and North Forney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 12:01 PM, hoopscoach17 said: Everyone remember that the process for the UIL starts with deciding how many 6A teams they want. Usually around 225 (but that seems to be decided by where Highland Park falls, lol). Then they start grouping schools for districts in 5A, then 4A, etc. There is no "magic" number for enrollment. It all has to do with drawing lines for each district. Sometimes it makes more sense to keep a couple of schools up in a division to balance out a district or two so that ends up being the cutoff enrollment number for that classification. its usually around 245 or so for 6a and 5a give or take a 5 or so schools...And that give or take usually involves HP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Aledo TEA was 1939 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionpride08 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Timboslice79 said: Absolutely no chance it moves more than 20. Why? What would be the reason it wont happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveragain Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 The recommendation from UIL to the commissioner is that any school that allows homeschooled students to participate will be given a 20% "penalty" on their realignment numbers. That may not matter to schools at the lower end of a classification, but any that are in the middle or upper part of their division/classification would have a hard time approving the non-school participation. ex: If a school has 100 students but allows home schoolers to participate, the recommendation would make them turn in 120. The commissioner has not approved that yet, but that is the proposal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, neveragain said: The recommendation from UIL to the commissioner is that any school that allows homeschooled students to participate will be given a 20% "penalty" on their realignment numbers. That may not matter to schools at the lower end of a classification, but any that are in the middle or upper part of their division/classification would have a hard time approving the non-school participation. ex: If a school has 100 students but allows home schoolers to participate, the recommendation would make them turn in 120. The commissioner has not approved that yet, but that is the proposal. That's a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, neveragain said: The recommendation from UIL to the commissioner is that any school that allows homeschooled students to participate will be given a 20% "penalty" on their realignment numbers. That may not matter to schools at the lower end of a classification, but any that are in the middle or upper part of their division/classification would have a hard time approving the non-school participation. ex: If a school has 100 students but allows home schoolers to participate, the recommendation would make them turn in 120. The commissioner has not approved that yet, but that is the proposal. Hmmm. How common is this? I know there are several programs just for homeschool kids like Tyler HEAT. You also have Nike Dallas and DasCHE and many more in DFW area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, LOL said: That's a great idea. Is there a home school in rusk county with5-6 6'5"and 260 pound guys that like to play on the line? Asking for a friend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-dub Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Beckville around 190 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboslice79 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, lionpride08 said: Why? What would be the reason it wont happen? Public school participation is down due to homeschooling and private school compared to 2 years ago. Im willing to bet overall numbers turned in are unchanged if not slightly down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFan04 Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 9 hours ago, TIMRIGGINS said: I was told ATL was 505 last week. Pretty sure that's about 15-20 too high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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