JBizzle Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 15 hours ago, TCU44 said: Is there any team on the Carthage Side of the bracket that will have any hope of beating them? Has to only be a few I’m sure if any! LOL I would be concerned with a team that has a very good defense and a power running game. I know this defense has not allowed much of anything on the ground. My concern would be a team with real size and strength on the O-line. Carthage is not very big on defense. The ends are very small fast guys, and to this point they have been outstanding against the run. But a team that can really move people off the ball and control the clock and limit the offenses possessions would be the team that has the chance to win, IMO, especially if Carthage's offense has a high turnover night. 1
BevBrownJr Posted November 9, 2021 Author Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, JBizzle said: I would be concerned with a team that has a very good defense and a power running game. I know this defense has not allowed much of anything on the ground. My concern would be a team with real size and strength on the O-line. Carthage is not very big on defense. The ends are very small fast guys, and to this point they have been outstanding against the run. But a team that can really move people off the ball and control the clock and limit the offenses possessions would be the team that has the chance to win, IMO, especially if Carthage's offense has a high turnover night. Is this a description of Bellville? I don’t know, I’m asking…so that I’ll know whether to pull for them or WO-S Thanksgiving weekend. 1
JBizzle Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, BevBrownJr said: Is this a description of Bellville? I don’t know, I’m asking…so that I’ll know whether to pull for them or WO-S Thanksgiving weekend. I've not seen any video on Bellville, so I have no idea.
d0tc0m Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 17 hours ago, TCU44 said: Is there any team on the Carthage Side of the bracket that will have any hope of beating them? Has to only be a few I’m sure if any! LOL I would say, realistically, there are three teams that have a shot (relatively speaking) at hanging with Carthage. China Spring, WOS and Bellville. Although I think Region IV will be pretty entertaining throughout the playoffs, I don't foresee the winner of that region having a prayer against Carthage, or whoever was good enough to knock off the Dawgs, in the semifinals.
Jerryhawk111 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 3 hours ago, hornetblue said: This will be an easy win for Carthage. the sky is blue! Just kidding. Totally agree 1
Newtonres7586 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Happy to see a playoff game in my town. I will be in attendance for this one. I have never seen Carthage play. Looking forward,to it. Everyone travel safe this weekend.
HearEmaGrowlin Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Newtonres7586 said: Happy to see a playoff game in my town. I will be in attendance for this one. I have never seen Carthage play. Looking forward,to it. Everyone travel safe this weekend. This is not the best offense Carthage has ever had, not even close. Just know what you see Friday is still a work in process, but I have confidence in the players and coaches.
Newtonres7586 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, HearEmaGrowlin said: This is not the best offense Carthage has ever had, not even close. Just know what you see Friday is still a work in process, but I have confidence in the players and coaches. Thanks for the tip
ChinaSpring1 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Having played Gatesville in district, Carthage should have no problems putting the 2nd team in after half. Gatesville has some good players but they suffer from a lack of players and many go both ways. They are a scrappy bunch but just get worn out by the halftime.
ChinaSpring1 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, d0tc0m said: I would say, realistically, there are three teams that have a shot (relatively speaking) at hanging with Carthage. China Spring, WOS and Bellville. Although I think Region IV will be pretty entertaining throughout the playoffs, I don't foresee the winner of that region having a prayer against Carthage, or whoever was good enough to knock off the Dawgs, in the semifinals. Yes, China Spring will be up to the task...
JBizzle Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, ChinaSpring1 said: Yes, China Spring will be up to the task... They did pretty good in 2016, last year...not so much. I would say this Carthage team is more like the 2016 team offensively, but this defense is every bit as good as they were last year. How's China Spring compared to 2020?
cowboyandchrist Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 4 hours ago, JBizzle said: I've not seen any video on Bellville, so I have no idea. I have, they have two really good running backs, but they have played no one with a pulse. They will not run on the Dawgs and neither will WOS. If you can’t run and throw equally well. You cannot defeat the Dawg D period. Unless the Dawg offense turns the ball over and the Dawg D gets no rest.
d0tc0m Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, cowboyandchrist said: I have, they have two really good running backs, but they have played no one with a pulse. They will not run on the Dawgs and neither will WOS. If you can’t run and throw equally well. You cannot defeat the Dawg D period. Unless the Dawg offense turns the ball over and the Dawg D gets no rest. I mostly agree with you. Bellville's schedule has been meh. But for the most part, that's not the Brahmas' fault, and they've done exactly what really good teams do against a schedule like that. And I totally agree that it will be tough sledding to run on the Carthage defense. But, to be fair, Carthage has not faced a running back, much less two backs, anywhere close to the caliber of Reece and Briggs.
d0tc0m Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, ChinaSpring1 said: Yes, China Spring will be up to the task... I think it could be a fun matchup, for sure, especially if China Spring's defense has a really strong showing.
cowboyandchrist Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, d0tc0m said: I mostly agree with you. Bellville's schedule has been meh. But for the most part, that's not the Brahmas' fault, and they've done exactly what really good teams do against a schedule like that. And I totally agree that it will be tough sledding to run on the Carthage defense. But, to be fair, Carthage has not faced a running back, much less two backs, anywhere close to the caliber of Reece and Briggs. You are correct, the Dawg D has not faced backs like they have. But they did last year and this years Dawg D is bigger, stronger, and faster and better.
d0tc0m Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 1 minute ago, cowboyandchrist said: You are correct, the Dawg D has not faced backs like they have. But they did last year and this years Dawg D is bigger, stronger, and faster and better. Fair enough! Can't really argue against Carthage's defense until someone gives us a reason to. Either way, it should be fun to watch the Dawgs play China Spring and WOS/Bellville. 1
cotton84 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 5 hours ago, JBizzle said: I would be concerned with a team that has a very good defense and a power running game. I know this defense has not allowed much of anything on the ground. My concern would be a team with real size and strength on the O-line. Carthage is not very big on defense. The ends are very small fast guys, and to this point they have been outstanding against the run. But a team that can really move people off the ball and control the clock and limit the offenses possessions would be the team that has the chance to win, IMO, especially if Carthage's offense has a high turnover night. The front 4 used against P G might be on standby for rounds 3 & 4 - take out 170 and insert 270. 2
cotton84 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, cowboyandchrist said: You are correct, the Dawg D has not faced backs like they have. But they did last year and this years Dawg D is bigger, stronger, and faster and better. Replaced a 240 lb three year starter with a 170 lb guy - are you sure about bigger ?
d0tc0m Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lions70 said: They can’t be stop even with magical powers. Suffocating defense will scare Georgia. 1 minute ago, Lions70 said: You don’t know the power of the Carthage C apparently you’re not worthy. You need a new hobby, Lion.
cowboyandchrist Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 55 minutes ago, cotton84 said: Replaced a 240 lb three year starter with a 170 lb guy - are you sure about bigger ? As the team is bigger stronger and faster. The two returning linemen are definitely bigger as are the linebackers.
EastTXFLEX Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 How early will we see the freshman in the game?
TCU44 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Carthage has 6 turnovers and Gatesville shocks the world scoring late and going for 2 to win 22-21!! 1
cotton84 Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, EastTXFLEX said: How early will we see the freshman in the game? 2 freshmen have been playing for Carthage’s 2nd team. You will probably see them in the middle of the 3rd quarter if the starters come focused.
ChinaSpring1 Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 7 hours ago, JBizzle said: They did pretty good in 2016, last year...not so much. I would say this Carthage team is more like the 2016 team offensively, but this defense is every bit as good as they were last year. How's China Spring compared to 2020? This China Spring team is vastly improved especially on defense. The move-ins have also helped in the line. We know defeating Carthage will take an almost perfect game but that’s why they play the game!
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