5A Div II Region III AREA: Marshall (8-3) Vs. Crosby (9-2) SATURDAY 2PM @ LUFKIN- Abe Martin Stadium

[RogerDorn]

2 hours ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

There were still minutes left. You’d probably still have lost whether Paddie returned it or not. 

About a minute and 30 seconds. Maybe, wouldn’t put it past coach surratt but would have been pretty tough given how Carthage offense has played this year

[RogerDorn]

1 minute ago, RogerDorn said:

About a minute and 30 seconds. Maybe, wouldn’t put it past coach surratt but would have been pretty tough given how Carthage offense has played this year

Crosby also was gifted a td on fumble return in first half. Carthage pulled it out really all that mattered 

[Mavchamp]

Crosby is the third best team we’ve played.  Maybe second.  Depends which Tiger offense shows up. 

We were in both of those games until late. I don’t expect turnover city like we had Vs Texarkana.  We haven’t done that any game but that one.  No explanation for it. 

[Cougar239]

7 hours ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

There were still minutes left. You’d probably still have lost whether Paddie returned it or not. 

Crosby was up after they scored and kicked off. Carthage would of had to drive 75yds with close to 2 minutes left if I remember correctly. 

[HearEmaGrowlin]

2 minutes ago, Cougar239 said:

Crosby was up after they scored and kicked off. Carthage would of had to drive 75yds with close to 2 minutes left if I remember correctly. 

That is correct.

[BlackShirtD]

Going with Crosby by 10

[HearEmaGrowlin]

I’m going with Crosby by 14.

[cougar14]

17 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

Crosby is the third best team we’ve played.  Maybe second.  Depends which Tiger offense shows up. 

We were in both of those games until late. I don’t expect turnover city like we had Vs Texarkana.  We haven’t done that any game but that one.  No explanation for it. 

 Crosby would destroy TH, just like we did last year. There’s not a single position group on the field except MAYBE db where TH has an advantage over Crosby. It doesn’t matter which Tiger offense shows up, they averaged 32.6ppg against a much weaker schedule. Crosby would’ve averaged 50+ppg in that district just like we did in ours. You go turnover city against us we’ll put 27 on you in one quarter like we’ve done several times this year, much less an entire game. Marshall is basically a skimmed down version of Texas City this year. 

[Mavchamp]

10 minutes ago, cougar14 said:

 Crosby would destroy TH, just like we did last year. There’s not a single position group on the field except MAYBE db where TH has an advantage over Crosby. It doesn’t matter which Tiger offense shows up, they averaged 32.6ppg against a much weaker schedule. Crosby would’ve averaged 50+ppg in that district just like we did in ours. You go turnover city against us we’ll put 27 on you in one quarter like we’ve done several times this year, much less an entire game. Marshall is basically a skimmed down version of Texas City this year. 

Good for y’all. 

You seem angry no one here is tooting Crosby’s horn.  Looks like y’all got that covered. 

We may lose big Saturday. Maybe we won’t. 

I just don’t think the Cougars the juggernaut they are trying to force down everyone’s throat. 

[cowboyandchrist]

On 11/14/2021 at 9:38 AM, Lions70 said:

Well they almost beat Carthage and we know that is a magical feat. Ask Cc for details.

Crosby has a good front four on defense, good QB and running back. 
They have good speed on both sides of the ball. 
They would not have scored 24 on the Dawgs if not for the five turnovers gifted to them. 
Half the Dawgs were out with COVID. 
Crosby should be favored in this game. 
I said after the Dawgs played them that they would make a deep run in the playoffs. 

[cougar14]

1 hour ago, Mavchamp said:

Good for y’all. 

You seem angry no one here is tooting Crosby’s horn.  Looks like y’all got that covered. 

We may lose big Saturday. Maybe we won’t. 

I just don’t think the Cougars the juggernaut they are trying to force down everyone’s throat. 

Lol, you can look on our usual board and see there’s nothing angry or condescending. Not trying to force anything, just pointing out what are IMO some fallacies in theory. 

[cougar14]

39 minutes ago, cowboyandchrist said:

Crosby has a good front four on defense, good QB and running back. 
They have good speed on both sides of the ball. 
They would not have scored 24 on the Dawgs if not for the five turnovers gifted to them. 
Half the Dawgs were out with COVID. 
Crosby should be favored in this game. 
I said after the Dawgs played them that they would make a deep run in the playoffs. 

Yeah, and if Myles didn’t start cramping in the second quarter and limping the whole second half the game wouldn’t have been close IMO either. Half your team wasn’t out, you were missing I believe four total starters. Someone one the other site went and compared you starters in the Center game to what y’all started against Crosby. You don’t have 11 D1 kids like Manvel so whatever starters you were missing aren’t some huge impact like it would be for them. If it was your offense would look better this year. 
 

That’s why I hated dropping down to even play that game. It was a lose/lose situation. We would’ve gotten nothing from a win but now that Carthage ran back a kickoff with 80 seconds left in the game they’re some authority on us, lol? The absolute last thing anybody judging Crosby should put any emphasis on is a game three months ago where we were breaking in 16 new starters. COMPLETELY different team you’re lining up against vs the one we fielded in August. 

[cowboyandchrist]

14 minutes ago, cougar14 said:

Yeah, and if Myles didn’t start cramping in the second quarter and limping the whole second half the game wouldn’t have been close IMO either. Half your team wasn’t out, you were missing I believe four total starters. Someone one the other site went and compared you starters in the Center game to what y’all started against Crosby. You don’t have 11 D1 kids like Manvel so whatever starters you were missing aren’t some huge impact like it would be for them. If it was your offense would look better this year. 
 

That’s why I hated dropping down to even play that game. It was a lose/lose situation. We would’ve gotten nothing from a win but now that Carthage ran back a kickoff with 80 seconds left in the game they’re some authority on us, lol? The absolute last thing anybody judging Crosby should put any emphasis on is a game three months ago where we were breaking in 16 new starters. COMPLETELY different team you’re lining up against vs the one we fielded in August. 

There were 6 missing on the offense alone. 
Crosby had a 17 to 0 lead at half time due to the 5 turnovers and you know it. Crosby scored 7 point in the second half and the Dawgs scored 28.  
you have a good day and good luck in the playoffs. 

[mikehoncho]

15 minutes ago, cougar14 said:

Yeah, and if Myles didn’t start cramping in the second quarter and limping the whole second half the game wouldn’t have been close IMO either. Half your team wasn’t out, you were missing I believe four total starters. Someone one the other site went and compared you starters in the Center game to what y’all started against Crosby. You don’t have 11 D1 kids like Manvel so whatever starters you were missing aren’t some huge impact like it would be for them. If it was your offense would look better this year. 
 

That’s why I hated dropping down to even play that game. It was a lose/lose situation. We would’ve gotten nothing from a win but now that Carthage ran back a kickoff with 80 seconds left in the game they’re some authority on us, lol? The absolute last thing anybody judging Crosby should put any emphasis on is a game three months ago where we were breaking in 16 new starters. COMPLETELY different team you’re lining up against vs the one we fielded in August. 

Your boy wasn't exactly lighting it up before the second half. 

I'm not sure why everyone, on both sides, can't just call it what it was.  It was a very good, exciting game in which both teams were replacing a lot of starters at key positions.  I personally have a lot of respect for the Crosby team after watching it and have followed their results through the year and am rooting for them in their division.  I'd love to think Cougar fans might be able to say the same for Carthage, but it doesn't necessarily seem like it.  Not that it matters.  

[RogerDorn]

3 hours ago, cougar14 said:

 Crosby would destroy TH, just like we did last year. There’s not a single position group on the field except MAYBE db where TH has an advantage over Crosby. It doesn’t matter which Tiger offense shows up, they averaged 32.6ppg against a much weaker schedule. Crosby would’ve averaged 50+ppg in that district just like we did in ours. You go turnover city against us we’ll put 27 on you in one quarter like we’ve done several times this year, much less an entire game. Marshall is basically a skimmed down version of Texas City this year. 

14-0 and 55 yards of penalties all against the tigers within first 2 min and 40 seconds of the game played a part t high didn’t get off the bus. did the better team win that day? Yes credit to them.  but hard to gain momentum back especially for a team that tbh found a way to bully about everyone on schedule idk if they really knew how to respond. Add the fact they are playing a team in Crosby who was obviously very talented and you get what happened. 
 

as for Carthage game earlier Crosby gonna have to just take it on the chin . a good team is a good team regardless of division throw in the fact Carthage has 5a type #s come out for football and you’ll see them continue to compete against a lot of schools bigger than them. it was a L vs a good team. If you want to start with if this, if that then I think Carthage wins that going away. gave you 7 points had 5 turnovers and 3-4 starters out.  only thing I can remember is qb getting somewhat banged up for Crosby but heck he even started to act like he was ok when they took the lead. 

[cougar14]

1 hour ago, cowboyandchrist said:

There were 6 missing on the offense alone. 
Crosby had a 17 to 0 lead at half time due to the 5 turnovers and you know it. Crosby scored 7 point in the second half and the Dawgs scored 28.  
you have a good day and good luck in the playoffs. 

Y’all didn’t score 28 the entire game so you definitely didn’t score 28 in the second half alone. You scored 17 offensive points in the second half and returned a kick with 80 second left. Good luck you y’all too. 

[RogerDorn]

so if Marshall scores more than 10 points this week does that mean Crosby still has a better D than T High? @cougar14

[cougar14]

1 hour ago, mikehoncho said:

Your boy wasn't exactly lighting it up before the second half. 

I'm not sure why everyone, on both sides, can't just call it what it was.  It was a very good, exciting game in which both teams were replacing a lot of starters at key positions.  I personally have a lot of respect for the Crosby team after watching it and have followed their results through the year and am rooting for them in their division.  I'd love to think Cougar fans might be able to say the same for Carthage, but it doesn't necessarily seem like it.  Not that it matters.  

He wasn’t lighting up BH before the half either, that’s why we were getting worked in that game. I don’t care about the Carthage game and haven’t for three months. If opening games were an indication of what you are/were going to be then that blowout loss to New Caney to start the year would’ve been our season long trajectory. It’s Carthage fans, and much more on the other site, that continuously bring the game up.
 

It’s Carthage fans that continuously inject themselves about threads having to do with Crosby on this site, the Golden Triangle site and even the Friday Football App, it’s ridiculous. Great game by Carthage, I’ve probably said that no less than 100 times this year but over and over and over they comment and say stuff like you just did after a response to “we beat Crosby but we would’ve won by more” from three months ago. Carthage is the last team Marshall should be taking advance from, that film is obsolete. I guess if I want to see what Marshall is today I should watch the New Caney film instead of the Rudder game? Smh

[cougar14]

9 minutes ago, RogerDorn said:

so if Marshall scores more than 10 points this week does that mean Crosby still has a better D than T High? @cougar14

Nah, it means they probably had extra possessions because Crosby scored 50+. Lot easier to hold team’s offensive production down when they’re only getting the ball 8 times per game. Crosby kicked the ball off to Madison 12 times last week and either punted twice or punted once and turned it over once, either way Madison had 14/15 possessions that game. It was 51-6 at the half and that 6 came against mostly backups in the second quarter but eventually you give a team the ball that many times they’re going to make some plays on you, even if it was against the JV and freshmen. Marshall can score in the 20’s on Crosby and points per play average similar to the one the put up against TH. 

[RogerDorn]

3 minutes ago, cougar14 said:

Nah, it means they probably had extra possessions because Crosby scored 50+. Lot easier to hold team’s offensive production down when they’re only getting the ball 8 times per game. Crosby kicked the ball off to Madison 12 times last week and either punted twice or punted once and turned it over once, either way Madison had 14/15 possessions that game. It was 51-6 at the half and that 6 came against mostly backups in the second quarter but eventually you give a team the ball that many times they’re going to make some plays on you, even if it was against the JV and freshmen. Marshall can score in the 20’s on Crosby and points per play average similar to the one the put up against TH. 

well Marshall if the qb is healthy might surprise you if t highs db’s look better than Crosby’s . 88 for Marshall broke lose a few times. and tbh I think #3 at wr for them might be better than him. when you look back at that game t high wasnt letting Marshall do anything once they got inside the 20 . they ended up with more total offense than t high

[mikehoncho]

5 minutes ago, cougar14 said:

He wasn’t lighting up BH before the half either, that’s why we were getting worked in that game. I don’t care about the Carthage game and haven’t for three months. If opening games were an indication of what you are/were going to be then that blowout loss to New Caney to start the year would’ve been our season long trajectory. It’s Carthage fans, and much more on the other site, that continuously bring the game up.
 

It’s Carthage fans that continuously inject themselves about threads having to do with Crosby on this site, the Golden Triangle site and even the Friday Football App, it’s ridiculous. Great game by Carthage, I’ve probably said that no less than 100 times this year but over and over and over they comment and say stuff like you just did after a response to “we beat Crosby but we would’ve won by more” from three months ago. Carthage is the last team Marshall should be taking advance from, that film is obsolete. I guess if I want to see what Marshall is today I should watch the New Caney film instead of the Rudder game? Smh

Well I stay away from the Friday Football chat because it's way worse than any other site ever thought about being when it comes to the chat and the stupidity.  And that seems to be no matter which teams are playing. Lol. 

I can't really comment on anything else you said because I haven't said anything about Marshall and their chances or lack there of against Crosby (I haven't researched this year's Marshall team enough, but if I had to guess just based on what I do know I figure Crosby wins this one easily).  Nor have I said anything like "this is what it takes to beat Crosby because Carthage did this..".  

[RogerDorn]

imo I don’t think Crosby’s lb’s are as good as t highs not saying they are all that either but idk maybe I’m wrong. Crosby  #’s 40 5 8 45 all on that dline all stand out. 

[cotton84]

4 hours ago, cougar14 said:

Yeah, and if Myles didn’t start cramping in the second quarter and limping the whole second half the game wouldn’t have been close IMO either. Half your team wasn’t out, you were missing I believe four total starters. Someone one the other site went and compared you starters in the Center game to what y’all started against Crosby. You don’t have 11 D1 kids like Manvel so whatever starters you were missing aren’t some huge impact like it would be for them. If it was your offense would look better this year. 
 

That’s why I hated dropping down to even play that game. It was a lose/lose situation. We would’ve gotten nothing from a win but now that Carthage ran back a kickoff with 80 seconds left in the game they’re some authority on us, lol? The absolute last thing anybody judging Crosby should put any emphasis on is a game three months ago where we were breaking in 16 new starters. COMPLETELY different team you’re lining up against vs the one we fielded in August. 

You gave away your football knowledge when you said a school with 800 kids can replace 4 starters easier than a school with 2000. 

[Cougar239]

4 hours ago, Lions70 said:

I knew there had to be a reasonable explanation. 

"Reasonable Explanation"?

Last I checked fumbles were part of the game. Also, Crosby wasn't "gifted" those fumbles... Carthage didn't intentionally or purposely turn the ball over. But carry on.

[Jets]

5 hours ago, Lions70 said:

I knew there had to be a reasonable explanation. 

Haha