RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/15/beto-orourkes-seven-greatest-hits-walls-do-not-save-lives-walls-end-lives/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/15/beto-orourkes-seven-greatest-hits-walls-do-not-save-lives-walls-end-lives/ Says the guy who probably lives in a gated community surrounded by -- you guessed it -- walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Monte1076 said: Says the guy who probably lives in a gated community surrounded by -- you guessed it -- walls. Yep, that actually kinda reinforced my support of him. Was that your intention? How are you going to tie him to CRT next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, BarryLaverty said: Yep, that actually kinda reinforced my support of him. Was that your intention? How are you going to tie him to CRT next? See, here's the problem: If walls are bad and walls don't work, why does he live in a gated community with walls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: See, here's the problem: If walls are bad and walls don't work, why does he live in a gated community with walls? He lives in a gated community? I haven't seen Sunset Heights described as that, and the pictures of it don't seem to indicate that. But, bigger picture, you do know that people die trying to get into this country, when they are desperate and try to cross the desert or climb walls or come here with a coyote in packed trucks? Are 'walls' the only answer to immigration in this country? Under Trump, sure. Is that the only approach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just now, BarryLaverty said: Are 'walls' the only answer to immigration in this country? Under Trump, sure. Is that the only approach? No, but neither is letting in everyone unvetted. The broader "walls don't work" point is how many politicians say that and live in gated communities -- with walls and with guards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: how many politicians say that and live in gated communities So, does he? You are saying that as if it is factual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 47 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: So, does he? You are saying that as if it is factual. I can't find information on that either way. Doesn't negate my question, though, does it? How many politicians are against walls but live in gated communities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: I can't find information on that either way. Doesn't negate my question, though, does it? How many politicians are against walls but live in gated communities? Actually, you were implying literally, so yeah, it does somewhat negate your question. The bigger picture is how many say 'walls' as a default answer, yet don't work on any other solutions, when clearly there is more than that needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Actually, you were implying literally, so yeah, it does somewhat negate your question. The bigger picture is how many say 'walls' as a default answer, yet don't work on any other solutions, when clearly there is more than that needed. Good deflection. Again: How many Democrat politicians who are against walls live in gated communities with walls? Why not answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpleforever Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 If walls keep them out, then they quit coming, so walls save lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 18 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: He lives in a gated community? I haven't seen Sunset Heights described as that, and the pictures of it don't seem to indicate that. But, bigger picture, you do know that people die trying to get into this country, when they are desperate and try to cross the desert or climb walls or come here with a coyote in packed trucks? Are 'walls' the only answer to immigration in this country? Under Trump, sure. Is that the only approach? Your logic does not make sense. If a burglar breaks into your house, he is breaking the law. If he dies in process from home owner, it is no ones fault but his or her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, osup116 said: If a burglar breaks into your house, No immigrant is stealing from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: No immigrant is stealing from me. The ILLEGAL ones are........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said: No immigrant is stealing from me. You don’t think the system paying for them out of your taxes is stealing? Part of problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, osup116 said: You don’t think the system paying for them out of your taxes is stealing? Part of problem Evidently he doesn't......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, osup116 said: You don’t think the system paying for them out of your taxes is stealing? Part of problem I think that what they contribute to our economy and in the form of taxes they pay is more than a counterbalance. Immigrants contribute greatly. https://www.newamericaneconomy.org/press-release/new-data-highlights-the-economic-contributions-of-dreamers-in-major-texas-metros/ https://www.expressnews.com/business/business_columnists/michael_taylor/article/Immigration-makes-Texas-richer-13601443.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, BarryLaverty said: I think that what they contribute to our economy and in the form of taxes they pay is more than a counterbalance. Immigrants contribute greatly. https://www.newamericaneconomy.org/press-release/new-data-highlights-the-economic-contributions-of-dreamers-in-major-texas-metros/ https://www.expressnews.com/business/business_columnists/michael_taylor/article/Immigration-makes-Texas-richer-13601443.php ILLEGAL ALIENS don't pay taxes, nimrod...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, RETIREDFAN1 said: ILLEGAL ALIENS don't pay taxes, nimrod...... Actually, they don't always pay income taxes, but they absolutely pay sales tax and they make a major contribution to property taxes, and they make more affordable housing and goods. They contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, BarryLaverty said: Actually, they don't always pay income taxes, but they absolutely pay sales tax and they make a major contribution to property taxes, and they make more affordable housing and goods. They contribute. They don't contribute at all.....they TAKE by being on welfare.....having kids in schools but paying no taxes....having to be treated at ER without the means to pay......they TAKE...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: They don't contribute at all.....they TAKE by being on welfare.....having kids in schools but paying no taxes....having to be treated at ER without the means to pay......they TAKE...... Wrong again. If all were to be deported, the loss to this state in our economic GDP, including taking into account everything paid out to them, would be a loss of 171 BILLION dollars. We would be much worse off economically, and the ripple effect would be devastating on costs of products and their availability and affordability. You can Google Baker Institute and undocumented workers in Texas, if you like. I know you won't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Wrong again. If all were to be deported, the loss to this state in our economic GDP, including taking into account everything paid out to them, would be a loss of 171 BILLION dollars. We would be much worse off economically, and the ripple effect would be devastating on costs of products and their availability and affordability. You can Google Baker Institute and undocumented workers in Texas, if you like. I know you won't. More made up data......they should ALL be deported...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, RETIREDFAN1 said: More made up data......they should ALL be deported...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Well IF your side hadnt got caught so many times making up or straight up altering data to fit their narrative, you might be more believable.......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said: I think that what they contribute to our economy and in the form of taxes they pay is more than a counterbalance. Immigrants contribute greatly. https://www.newamericaneconomy.org/press-release/new-data-highlights-the-economic-contributions-of-dreamers-in-major-texas-metros/ https://www.expressnews.com/business/business_columnists/michael_taylor/article/Immigration-makes-Texas-richer-13601443.php When they pay as much as me you can talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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