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5 minutes ago, buckeyefandom said:

Now you think Dave Campbell’s is a non profit too? 🥴🤣😂 @MattStepp watches film too, and then he SELLS SUBSCRIPTIONS! And after all these years I think he has learned the difference between Region 1 and Region 2.
 

How many times have Dave Campbell and PigskinPrep picked opposite teams with a 20 point delta? Everybody turn on CNN and listen closely. They have some really important “News” to share!

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2 minutes ago, TCU44 said:

Celina 48 

Gilmer 19

why this score? It’s because Celina is better! All you East Texas homers are about to find out Friday night! Going to be a long ride back to East Texas!👍

I remember back in elementary when they taught us just to say no, I guess you missed that day lol.

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11 minutes ago, TCU44 said:

Celina 48 

Gilmer 19

why this score? It’s because Celina is better! All you East Texas homers are about to find out Friday night! Going to be a long ride back to East Texas!👍

Says the same guy who had Caddo Mills beating Gilmer by 3 TDs a few weeks ago.  I think TCU44 is really Jenn Psaki. (If I say it enough times and loud enough, SOMEBODY will believe me) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It’s called a track record bro. And you really don’t have one. Sorry.  Try 60 Minutes. They love propaganda.

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3 hours ago, buckeyefandom said:

Follow the $. How many Dave Campbell subscriptions do you think they sell in Upshur County, as opposed to that $$$$$ Area in the Metroplex?

Dave Campbell, the UIL, they are ALL the “New NCAA”. How much money are they making off of high school kids!?!?! 

Watch the film. Coaches have. And you don’t have to be a coach to see what you see.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion.  I don't think Matt has an ulterior motive at all.  I don't think he's that kind of person.  If he thinks Celina is "better" than Gilmer it is our job to prove him wrong.  Celina comes out of a weak region for sure, but they did what they were supposed to do, and that is blow everybody out.  We will definitely be the best team they have faced since Argyle.  It's always tough to gauge teams from different regions, but historically region 1 hasn't had a lot of success against region 2.  I do think this will be a good game, and I think it will be up to our players how well we play.  They will have to play with fire in their belly, so to speak, and a lot of discipline.  Celina is the first serious threat to our team's goal.  Will we rise up?  We will see.

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I’ll take my beating if I’m wrong! The Caddo Mills thing was a complete joke!  With that said Caddo Mills had almost 500 yards passing  against the black flag defense!🤪😂Of course I wasn’t serious about them beating Gilmer! but I am serious about Celina putting it on Gilmer.

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1 hour ago, blackflag79 said:

Everybody is entitled to their opinion.  I don't think Matt has an ulterior motive at all.  I don't think he's that kind of person.  If he thinks Celina is "better" than Gilmer it is our job to prove him wrong.  Celina comes out of a weak region for sure, but they did what they were supposed to do, and that is blow everybody out.  We will definitely be the best team they have faced since Argyle.  It's always tough to gauge teams from different regions, but historically region 1 hasn't had a lot of success against region 2.  I do think this will be a good game, and I think it will be up to our players how well we play.  They will have to play with fire in their belly, so to speak, and a lot of discipline.  Celina is the first serious threat to our team's goal.  Will we rise up?  We will see.

Agree 100%.  There are no teams left standing since Thanksgiving that are not really good teams. And Celina is certainly one of them. And yes, we are talking about 15-18 year old kids. Gilmer has been on the wrong end of some “not ready to play” moments, one in the semis against a Region 1 team in Sweetwater (Gilmer people drive miles out of their way to this day to avoid Waco, Texas. So agree whole heartedly. Anybody can beat anybody at this point.

That said, Gilmer (with this same offense) and Celina (with this same defense) has put up 199 points against them. I simply question why on earth Celina would keep doing the same things defensively again and again.  2014, 2015, 2016 Gilmer (and Coach Metzel specifically) put up 67, 44 & 43 points with essentially the same caliber kids playing the same defensive concept (6 man box, man free underneath). And my take on that is with this Gilmer offense, Celina should be prepared to score 55+ to beat Gilmer. And with Celina’s offense, IDK if they can do that against Gilmer’s defense.

Now. If the Cats come out in cover 2 or 3, maybe they can keep the vertical damage to a minimum and keep that speed in front of them. But history shows Celina is a man free team who will do what they do, thinking they can stop anybody doing it. In 2015 they beat Gilmer 49-44 but they never stopped the offense. And I don’t think they have the offensive horse power to survive a shoot-out. 

Now if somebody from the Celina side wants to actually talk football, and make some logical arguments as to why Celina can do what they do and stop Gilmer, I would love to hear it. It’s what I am begging for… to learn something new I don’t know about this year’s team. I have seen all their game film. And they have not played anybody even remotely close to the offensive style and skill and speed of Gilmer. Paris was probably the closest thing, but not really. I love the passion of “Celina by 3TDs”.  But explain why you think that is the case from a football perspective. So far, I am not learning anything new about the Bobcats. That sucks.

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2 minutes ago, mikehoncho said:

To be fair, pretty much all of Dave Campbell’s did. 
 

But I will say Texan Live game announcers seem to be bias against East Texas. I said it. Come for me. It’s real. 

I picked Carthage too! I wasn’t taking a shot at @MattStep. Far from it. I was pointing out that historically, they watch film and do their homework. I know PigSkinPrep does too. And their track record is usually pretty good. And they are both double digits in opposite directions? That makes no sense! So what is the reasoning?

I stick to the logic and stay off the emotional trains, whose tracks do run on Smoaky which I am ok with too. But people I know and respect having options that different for teams they know well is worth exploring. 

I have seen who Celina has faced the last 7-8 weeks. I look at those scores and say that’s about right. Celina can’t control where they are or who they play. They beat the teams they needed to and here they are. Again. Facing Gilmer. Who is every bit Gilmer they have ever been. Celina (on film) is who they have traditionally been as well with a few exceptions (mainly their QB who throws well with a clean pocket, has turned it over when he gets hit, and is not the athlete with his legs past Celina QBs against Gilmer has been). But Celina is big, strong, play hard, tackle well and are fundamentally sound, and execute their scheme pretty well too. Really good team! Deserves to be here.

But now they run into Gilmer again and history tells us Celina defenses have a hard time handling a fast, skilled, spread offense, especially with a really good QB running it. Gilmer may have the best combination of exactly those things they have ever had. Gilmer is bigger in the trenches than Celina thinks, and better in those critical roles than ever as well. So somebody who knows Celina explain to me why an offense that has put up 199 points against this defense since they first squared off is going to shut it down this time? 

All football this deep in the playoffs comes down to three things: Trenches, Turnovers and QB Play. I think Gilmer holds its own on the first, wins on the second and wins hands down on the third. The Buckeyes have averaged a point for every offensive play they run. If Celina can’t keep the ball away from them, they have to stop them cold. If both teams come out and play good ball, I don’t see how that is going to happen. Somebody convince me…

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13 minutes ago, buckeyefandom said:

I picked Carthage too! I wasn’t taking a shot at @MattStep. Far from it. I was pointing out that historically, they watch film and do their homework. I know PigSkinPrep does too. And their track record is usually pretty good. And they are both double digits in opposite directions? That makes no sense! So what is the reasoning?

I stick to the logic and stay off the emotional trains, whose tracks do run on Smoaky which I am ok with too. But people I know and respect having options that different for teams they know well is worth exploring. 

I have seen who Celina has faced the last 7-8 weeks. I look at those scores and say that’s about right. Celina can’t control where they are or who they play. They beat the teams they needed to and here they are. Again. Facing Gilmer. Who is every bit Gilmer they have ever been. Celina (on film) is who they have traditionally been as well with a few exceptions (mainly their QB who throws well with a clean pocket, has turned it over when he gets hit, and is not the athlete with his legs past Celina QBs against Gilmer has been). But Celina is big, strong, play hard, tackle well and are fundamentally sound, and execute their scheme pretty well too. Really good team! Deserves to be here.

But now they run into Gilmer again and history tells us Celina defenses have a hard time handling a fast, skilled, spread offense, especially with a really good QB running it. Gilmer may have the best combination of exactly those things they have ever had. Gilmer is bigger in the trenches than Celina thinks, and better in those critical roles than ever as well. So somebody who knows Celina explain to me why an offense that has put up 199 points against this defense since they first squared off is going to shut it down this time? 

All football this deep in the playoffs comes down to three things: Trenches, Turnovers and QB Play. I think Gilmer holds its own on the first, wins on the second and wins hands down on the third. The Buckeyes have averaged a point for every offensive play they run. If Celina can’t keep the ball away from them, they have to stop them cold. If both teams come out and play good ball, I don’t see how that is going to happen. Somebody convince me…

I personally disagree with you that this Gilmer team is on the same level as the 2014 team. There is no Kris Boyd, no Demarco Boyd, no Blake Lynch, no Nick Smith, no Kollin Hurt, no Chase Tate, Jamel Jackson, not to mention that team had it's own Fluellen, as well as a phenomenal QB in its own right in Mclane Carter (nearly 4,000 yards, 47 TDs and just 2 INTs). I'm not saying 2021 isn't a great Gilmer team by any means. But that 2014 group was insanity. Nobody was stopping that team, especially not that 2014 Celina team. The Bobcats were a good team that year, not great, not anywhere in the discussion of truly GREAT Celina teams. Defensively, they were soft, and anyone from Celina who wasn't a parent of one of the players would have told you that.

Next thing, Celina runs a completely different offense (in terms of base looks) than they did in 2003, 2014-16. The Bobcats no longer employ a base Full house look, nor do they run a traditional spread look, which they were doing in 2014-16. In addition to that, Celina's offense is in its second year under a new offensive coordinator, who played and studied at Baylor. Travis McClain has done a fantastic job as a second-year OC, and he's changed the offensive philosophy and mindset of the Bobcats. Bobcats have been employing a hybrid offense that utilizes a single-back set with an H-back, and (typically) twins to one side with a single receiver opposite of them. Although, last week, we ran that look just 2-3 times and were running a single/2-back look, replacing the H-back with a tight end.

Defensively ... I'm not even going to disagree with you that much lol. It's always been a headscratcher to me why we would run a traditional 10-1 or 10-1 Special against the Buckeyes. It's just a zero-margin-for-error defense against an offense that can create so many problems and attack in a litany of ways. Now, in 2015, we did not run a traditional 10-1 or Special, and I highly, highly doubt the Buckeyes are going to see a man-free or cover-zero, or 10-1/Special, etc. I'm not sure what base look they'll show, but I doubt it'll be man-press-free. Aaron Ford at defensive coordinator has done a fantastic job of mixing up looks and coverages, and he's been able to shut down/stifle some really good offenses this season. The Bobcats starting defense held Melissa to 14 points and Argyle to 16 points. Both of those teams were really talented and had plenty of speed to burn. They don't run the same looks and style as Gilmer, but from an athletic standpoint, Celina has seen speed, and they have not been overmatched by it this season.

In terms of your keys to deep playoff football, I agree, with the exception of the running game. I think it's imperative to be able to take over a game on the ground when the situation dictates. I think the Bobcats have an advantage in the trenches on both sides of the ball, and with that advantage, Celina has been able to pound the football with Gabe Gayton at RB, who is quick, and very, very strong, complimented by Peterson, who is also quick and strong and can pound is way to 3-5 yards per carry. When it comes to turnovers, it could go either way. Bobcats had one bad game against Argyle, and apart from that, we've taken care of the football pretty well. QB play, absolutely the nod goes to Tennison and rightfully so. Dude is a DUDE 100% certified DUDE. But I wouldn't go so far as to say Bentley for Celina isn't athletic. He's an OU commit for baseball, if he ever even makes it to Norman ... more likely that he gets drafted out of high school in the summer of 2023. He hasn't had to run much this season, but he can when he needs to, and he's tough as nails and really strong.

Don't know if that answers any or all of your questions, buckeyefandom, but I enjoy the conversation.

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14 minutes ago, mikehoncho said:

Y'all are exhausting me lol

But these are some darn fine reads...Now that my team Melissa choked and lost and this Celina/Gilmer game 30 minutes from the house..I think I'm gonna have to be there in person.

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35 minutes ago, d0tc0m said:

I personally disagree with you that this Gilmer team is on the same level as the 2014 team. There is no Kris Boyd, no Demarco Boyd, no Blake Lynch, no Nick Smith, no Kollin Hurt, no Chase Tate, Jamel Jackson, not to mention that team had it's own Fluellen, as well as a phenomenal QB in its own right in Mclane Carter (nearly 4,000 yards, 47 TDs and just 2 INTs). I'm not saying 2021 isn't a great Gilmer team by any means. But that 2014 group was insanity. Nobody was stopping that team, especially not that 2014 Celina team. The Bobcats were a good team that year, not great, not anywhere in the discussion of truly GREAT Celina teams. Defensively, they were soft, and anyone from Celina who wasn't a parent of one of the players would have told you that.

Next thing, Celina runs a completely different offense (in terms of base looks) than they did in 2003, 2014-16. The Bobcats no longer employ a base Full house look, nor do they run a traditional spread look, which they were doing in 2014-16. In addition to that, Celina's offense is in its second year under a new offensive coordinator, who played and studied at Baylor. Travis McClain has done a fantastic job as a second-year OC, and he's changed the offensive philosophy and mindset of the Bobcats. Bobcats have been employing a hybrid offense that utilizes a single-back set with an H-back, and (typically) twins to one side with a single receiver opposite of them. Although, last week, we ran that look just 2-3 times and were running a single/2-back look, replacing the H-back with a tight end.

Defensively ... I'm not even going to disagree with you that much lol. It's always been a headscratcher to me why we would run a traditional 10-1 or 10-1 Special against the Buckeyes. It's just a zero-margin-for-error defense against an offense that can create so many problems and attack in a litany of ways. Now, in 2015, we did not run a traditional 10-1 or Special, and I highly, highly doubt the Buckeyes are going to see a man-free or cover-zero, or 10-1/Special, etc. I'm not sure what base look they'll show, but I doubt it'll be man-press-free. Aaron Ford at defensive coordinator has done a fantastic job of mixing up looks and coverages, and he's been able to shut down/stifle some really good offenses this season. The Bobcats starting defense held Melissa to 14 points and Argyle to 16 points. Both of those teams were really talented and had plenty of speed to burn. They don't run the same looks and style as Gilmer, but from an athletic standpoint, Celina has seen speed, and they have not been overmatched by it this season.

In terms of your keys to deep playoff football, I agree, with the exception of the running game. I think it's imperative to be able to take over a game on the ground when the situation dictates. I think the Bobcats have an advantage in the trenches on both sides of the ball, and with that advantage, Celina has been able to pound the football with Gabe Gayton at RB, who is quick, and very, very strong, complimented by Peterson, who is also quick and strong and can pound is way to 3-5 yards per carry. When it comes to turnovers, it could go either way. Bobcats had one bad game against Argyle, and apart from that, we've taken care of the football pretty well. QB play, absolutely the nod goes to Tennison and rightfully so. Dude is a DUDE 100% certified DUDE. But I wouldn't go so far as to say Bentley for Celina isn't athletic. He's an OU commit for baseball, if he ever even makes it to Norman ... more likely that he gets drafted out of high school in the summer of 2023. He hasn't had to run much this season, but he can when he needs to, and he's tough as nails and really strong.

Don't know if that answers any or all of your questions, buckeyefandom, but I enjoy the conversation.

Good stuff indeed!  Much appreciated. From what I have seen on film for Celina (Argyle and Melissa games included… but they were very early in the season) It seems the Celina QB can throw from a clean pocket pretty well. But it makes sense now that you say he is a baseball player. Once Argyle got pressure and he started turning it over, Celina closed ranks and went to a straight power running game… lead left and lead right out of that 3 back set they run to the power side of an unbalanced line. That is just smash mouth football, and if I was Celina that is what I would use as my first line of defense, keeping Gilmer’s offense off the field by running clock and moving chains. If Celina does that, they need to keep it a 1 score game at least and stay out of catch-up mode. 

I do think Celina can throw the ball against Gilmer if the QB has time, but I would think that would be only in “have to” situations. And the more they have to, the more the game tilts towards a shootout.  That favors Gilmer. It is “pick your poison” trying to stop Gilmer’s offense. I don’t think this will be the best defense Gilmer has faced. But that is not saying Celina doesn’t have a good defense. I just don’t think Celina has faced an offense like Gilmer. Winning the battle in the trenches is a threat to Gilmer if it keeps the ball out of the offense’s hands and limits the possessions. 

Let’s just say the more Celina can run the ball and move the clock, the better chance they have to win. If Gilmer gets the ball (coin flips, turnovers, special teams, etc.) I don’t think Celina will stop Gilmer from scoring. So for me it comes down to the same old story we have always seen back to 2003. Can Celina keep Gilmer’s offense off the field. That seems to be the strategic formula Celina should follow. Gilmer has won 95% of their games since 2000 when scoring 30+ points. Less than that they are .500. I think that is the real “game” for any team left that can beat Gilmer. 

That 2014 could score against anybody at any time. That was their best defense as well. Even in the 2014 State Championship game, WOS played a perfect first half and limited Gilmer’s opportunities. In the second half, adjustments were made defensively and WOS collapsed. This year’s offense for Gilmer is very comparable. No knock on Carter or KB or Blake or anyone on that team. Obviously it was loaded talent wise. But Gilmer leaned a lot on that talent then and was fortunate nobody ran out of gas beyond the “Big 3”. This year the talent levels and speed are comparable, and spread a lot wider and deeper throughout the entire roster. In 2014 you could point to 4 guys and say “D1 Talent”.  In 2021 you can point to more than that, but they are not all Srs. 

No question the water is as deep as the Buckeyes will see it with Celina and then whoever is next if Gilmer wins. But the Carthage teams Gilmer faced last year outmatched Gilmer on every front. The Carthage defense and team they played this year did not overmatch Gilmer. But they did outplay the Buckeyes for 3 quarters. And I can’t see that Celina, even playing Argyle saw the same caliber of speed and athleticism Carthage or Gilmer or WOS rolls out. Not the film I watched. I think Celina even had issues with Paris athletically, they just were not skilled enough as a team to score consistently on Celina. 

Regardless, the information is outstanding and highly appreciated! And I agree 100% with your assessment of it coming down to Celina winning in the trenches enough offensively to eat so much time they limit Gilmer’s snaps. PG is a “power team” that has seen a lot of Gilmer the past 5 years and figured out the formula for beating Gilmer. Last week they held Gilmer to 36 total offensive plays and won ToP 3:1. But the score was 22-0 at the half and the game was over. PG is huge (bigger than Celina) and very athletic. But I think Celina is a much deeper, better and more complete football team right now than PG. It will be interesting to see if Celina commits to ground and pound or tries to go toe to toe with the Buckeye offense. I think both teams on the other side of the bracket are rooting hard for Celina to win. All the “C Teams” left play the same style as Celina. That is what makes watching Gilmer compete against the best teams in the state with their philosophy so interesting. 

MikeHoncho… this is the internet. Works like your TV. If you don’t like what’s on, just change the channel. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Rightly said, for Celina to win, they will need to make the most of their opportunities, get a few turnovers and limit Gilmer’s possessions. They also need to have a Grey start and play from in front on the scoreboard and ground and pound.

For Gilmer, they need to do what the 2014 bunch did and have the great start (winning the coin flip wouldn’t hurt) and get out to at least a 3 drive 1st quarter, scoring on 2 of them. If Gilmer gets a 2 possession lead, Celina is going to feel pressure to throw and get back in it. They should avoid that temptation until they absolutely have no choice.

It’s the semis! This is why they play them on the field!

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PigskinPrep is a computer formula (its what we use for our point spreads) there are zero alterior motives behind the point spread its literally just data that spits out a value and the value difference in the two teams is how the point spread is calculated. Same thing for the PadillaPoll, to suggest that our point spread picks are made to drive subscription revenue is patently false.

 

My personal picks will be out today or tomorrow, I actually picked Gilmer and we've had Gilmer higher in our human rankings basically all season long...but dont let those facts get in the way of a self-created narrative lol 

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3 hours ago, buckeyefandom said:

Agree 100%.  There are no teams left standing since Thanksgiving that are not really good teams. And Celina is certainly one of them. And yes, we are talking about 15-18 year old kids. Gilmer has been on the wrong end of some “not ready to play” moments, one in the semis against a Region 1 team in Sweetwater (Gilmer people drive miles out of their way to this day to avoid Waco, Texas. So agree whole heartedly. Anybody can beat anybody at this point.

That said, Gilmer (with this same offense) and Celina (with this same defense) has put up 199 points against them. I simply question why on earth Celina would keep doing the same things defensively again and again.  2014, 2015, 2016 Gilmer (and Coach Metzel specifically) put up 67, 44 & 43 points with essentially the same caliber kids playing the same defensive concept (6 man box, man free underneath). And my take on that is with this Gilmer offense, Celina should be prepared to score 55+ to beat Gilmer. And with Celina’s offense, IDK if they can do that against Gilmer’s defense.

Now. If the Cats come out in cover 2 or 3, maybe they can keep the vertical damage to a minimum and keep that speed in front of them. But history shows Celina is a man free team who will do what they do, thinking they can stop anybody doing it. In 2015 they beat Gilmer 49-44 but they never stopped the offense. And I don’t think they have the offensive horse power to survive a shoot-out. 

Now if somebody from the Celina side wants to actually talk football, and make some logical arguments as to why Celina can do what they do and stop Gilmer, I would love to hear it. It’s what I am begging for… to learn something new I don’t know about this year’s team. I have seen all their game film. And they have not played anybody even remotely close to the offensive style and skill and speed of Gilmer. Paris was probably the closest thing, but not really. I love the passion of “Celina by 3TDs”.  But explain why you think that is the case from a football perspective. So far, I am not learning anything new about the Bobcats. That sucks.

There is only one way to beat Gilmer. 
The defense will have to force  Brandon to throw under pressure and tackle him when he takes off. Celina corners will have to stop the bubble screen. Linebackers will have to stop the run and put pressure on Gilmer QB. The only defense to do what I have said was Carthage. 
Gilmer receivers are very good and they can fly. Anyone predicting a score is just being a homer. 
This game will be won on which team makes less mistakes. 
Gilmer played Carthage and Celina played Argyle and that is the only loss they have. Defense beat them both. 
I have a feeling both coaches have been watching both those games. 
Pulling for Gilmer but this is a toss up. 

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Gonna be a good one for sure. Can't predict one without considering how great the other team is. That is the real problem, both are great teams. Can Gilmer score enough to win against that Celina Defense?  Can Celina fine tune that Defense enough to stop that Gilmer legendary offense? This could be a tie ball game and one that they should just create another special classification to have three State Champions in this classification in 2021.  Now, I'm just stalling until I can toss a coin to see which one can win this thing. Another one of those games that should be played for the State Championship. Something is wrong with the system when it seems like these should be the two best teams in Texas... Okay, my coin flip fell on Celina's side of the quarter...

Celina 36 Gilmer 35....I really do not have clue. 

 

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9 minutes ago, micotrav said:

Gonna be a good one for sure. Can't predict one without considering how great the other team is. That is the real problem, both are great teams. Can Gilmer score enough to win against that Celina Defense?  Can Celina fine tune that Defense enough to stop that Gilmer legendary offense? This could be a tie ball game and one that they should just create another special classification to have three State Champions in this classification in 2021.  Now, I'm just stalling until I can toss a coin to see which one can win this thing. Another one of those games that should be played for the State Championship. Something is wrong with the system when it seems like these should be the two best teams in Texas... Okay, my coin flip fell on Celina's side of the quarter...

Celina 36 Gilmer 35....I really do not have clue. 

 

You could put either team on the other side of the bracket and say the same thing. Somebody's gotta win. Somebody's gotta lose. It's just the time of year where a top-tier team has to go home at the end of the week. Only one team can end the season on a win. Just the nature of the beast. A loss doesn't invalidate the losing team's season or effort or anything like that.

Your prediction is about as good as mine could be. I know either team would be thrilled with a 1-point win. If the Bobcats can hold Gilmer to 35 points or less, I really like our chances.

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Last team to beat Gilmer in a true shootout was a guy named GJ Kinne in Canton in 2006 I think? That was a state playoff record doe points scored at the time if I remember. I don’t expect that kind of game Friday. That may keep us all there until Midnight!

I especially agree about all 4 teams left being capable of winning it all, but Gilmer seems to be the strongest of the bunch offensively.

Whataburgers are open 24/7.  So we’ll be good from here to Christmas! Can’t wait to see what happens.  Good luck to all four great teams.

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35 minutes ago, buckeyefandom said:

Last team to beat Gilmer in a true shootout was a guy named GJ Kinne in Canton in 2006 I think? That was a state playoff record doe points scored at the time if I remember. I don’t expect that kind of game Friday. That may keep us all there until Midnight!

I especially agree about all 4 teams left being capable of winning it all, but Gilmer seems to be the strongest of the bunch offensively.

Whataburgers are open 24/7.  So we’ll be good from here to Christmas! Can’t wait to see what happens.  Good luck to all four great teams.

Gilmer is the most explosive offense, let's be sure. Their system is built on scoring in as few plays as possible and scoring in bunches. It's hard to stop. Their route concepts are a thing of beauty to watch. But it all goes awry, as do most offenses, when you get pressure on and contain the QB. Celina HAS to do that on Friday. Full stop. Only one team has done it successfully this season. Bobcats will hope to be No. 2 on that list.

When they get chances, Celina will have to capitalize. Like any team that plays Gilmer, you can ill afford to drive into the red zone and come away empty handed. You must sustain drives and you must get points. Bobcats have an otherwordly kicker, so it won't take too much real estate on the Buckeyes end of the field to come away with at least 3 points. But it'll take more than that to win, obviously.

There are going to be some downright nasty battles in the trenches on Friday, I can guarantee that. If hard-hitting, big-heavies pushing each other around isn't your thing, best stay home, because that's where this game is going to be won or lost.

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