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On 3/7/2022 at 11:35 AM, LOL said:

I'm still expecting a pretty steep learning curve, as the players gradually buy into a new system and culture. I expect 2-3 losses next year to provide the adversity needed for this team to grow the right way. 

But am I happy with the direction we're (finally) going in? Totally. 

Vibe is 'just different' at OU right now: https://oklahoma.rivals.com/news/vibe-is-just-different-at-ou-right-now

Venables isn’t the same guy who was the defensive coordinator in Norman all those years ago. He wouldn’t have gotten the job if he was.

All those years as the Clemson defensive coordinator and two things stand out. One, he waited for the right moment. You hear that a lot in coaching circles about not taking the first offer but taking the right offer.

That was Venables. He wasn’t going to leave unless everything was aligned. It is at OU between president Joe Harroz and athletic director Joe Castiglione and going on down the line.

Why leave when you’re happy like Venables was at Clemson? Because the perfect opportunity at the perfect time arrived.

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OU is striving to be the best. Aiming to hit a standard. And with Venables in charge, they’re taking a different pathway.

Different might have been exactly what OU needed. 

Since I'm just talking to myself in here, I figure I'll go ahead and add this: 

Brent Venables going 0-to-100, without missing many details along the way (Tulsa World)

NORMAN — Former Oklahoma defensive lineman Isaiah Thomas propped up new OU head coach Brent Venables, and Sooner Nation tingled.

“‘How’s Oklahoma gonna be?’ When I first got asked that, I was saying, ‘Y’know, I’d give Brent a year or two. Get his recruits in and get these guys in order and whatnot,’” Thomas said Wednesday following his OU Pro Day workout. “Now it’s ‘Give him a month or two.’”

Former Sooner defensive tackle Perrion Winfrey replaced Thomas at the Pro Day podium and doubled down on the hype.

“(Venables) ran past me. I was thinking he was coming to shake my hand, but no, he was coming to get on somebody’s ### because they were walking off the field. Just to see him sprint and get on somebody for something so little — that we think is so little, but he knows that’s such a big thing. ... I could just tell right away he was going to do what he needs to do to make this program what it has always been.”

Look, I get it. I know there's a LOT more to winning than just being a hardcore get-after-it kinda coach. Heck, I'm sure most coaches at sub .500 programs tell their players to hustle.  

But I'm just glad to see it at my alma mater. I like the "uncommon man" and "above the standard" philosophy. If it means a few 3-loss and 4-loss seasons to get there, I'm okay with that. 

Obviously the expectation is that Venables positions OU to be successful in the SEC and competing for titles on the regular, and that will be the sole determination on whether or not he was/is the right hire. 

For now, however, I like where this is going. 

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1 hour ago, ETXfan16 said:

 

 Pot, meet kettle.

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Yeahhhh, I can see why he's wanting to characterize the *situation* as toxic in hindsight, but in this case it takes two to tango. 

That said: one party of this "toxic situation" was a dumb college kid, the other one is a grown man. So, yeah...  

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12 hours ago, Valhalla said:

He definitely had no fault in playing bad enough to get benched. 

I was hearing his head wasn't in the game all the way back in Spring. Sources in Norman telling me about his shenanigans. Harmless, college-kid shenanigans mind you, but still his focus wasn't there.

By all accounts Williams outplayed him during the Summer, but Rattler was QB1 by default. The latter's lack of focus made manifest in poor pre-game prep and in-game execution. Williams was more lucky than good coming off the bench, but the contrast (and other factors) contributed to an overall toxic situation. 

At the end of the day, it comes down to leadership and culture. Everything happened for the best of all concerned. 

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1 hour ago, Valhalla said:

Supposedly there are 217 former players in town to kick off the BV era at the spring game. 

Not gonna lie I’ve always low key rooted for OU anytime they weren’t playing A&M. I know that from a regional recruiting standpoint I should welcome a few 8-4 seasons from them, but until they are back in the Ags division I’ll pull for them. That being said, I’m a big fan of BV and am really hoping to see him bring a little bit of toughness back to ou. They have been way too finesse for my taste the last few years. 

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On 4/22/2022 at 7:40 PM, Valhalla said:

 

It sure was nice of Terminator 2 to pose for Baker's statue in his absence. 

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20 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said:

 

As bad as Bally Sports is, I'd settle for a frat boy doing Facebook Live from the student section. 

But this looks promising. 

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29 minutes ago, LOL said:

As bad as Bally Sports is, I'd settle for a frat boy doing Facebook Live from the student section. 

But this looks promising. 

ESPN mothership is basically trash, but I really love ESPN+ content 

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On 5/14/2022 at 5:25 PM, Valhalla said:

 

Wow...  so, walk me through this Val. As you know, I don't follow recruiting. Are these new QBs coming in because they believe they can compete for QB1 once Dillon goes pro?

Because it seems like General and the Pitt QB transfer oughta know there's absolutely no chance they beat out Gabriel until he leaves. With all the movement toward "start me or I hit the portal," it is odd that OU would get a couple guys who could have a good chance of starting somewhere else. 

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1 minute ago, LOL said:

Wow...  so, walk me through this Val. As you know, I don't follow recruiting. Are these new QBs coming in because they believe they can compete for QB1 once Dillon goes pro?

Because it seems like General and the Pitt QB transfer oughta know there's absolutely no chance they beat out Gabriel until he leaves. With all the movement toward "start me or I hit the portal," it is odd that OU would get a couple guys who could have a good chance of starting somewhere else. 

These last two are just "depth" guys to me. The kid [Evers] they got from the 2022 class is not even close to being ready.

They needed an adult in the room besides Gabriel. The Pitt guy was a 4 star kid with some experience. I think Booty is just for depth and it never hurts to have a QB from Allen on the roster.

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4 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

These last two are just "depth" guys to me. The kid [Evers] they got from the 2022 class is not even close to being ready.

They needed an adult in the room besides Gabriel. The Pitt guy was a 4 star kid with some experience. I think Booty is just for depth and it never hurts to have a QB from Allen on the roster.

I dig that, but do you think Booty thinks he's gonna play Baker Mayfield, and upset the apple cart? How many years of eligibility does he have left? Did he use up his portal free pass, or does he still have it since he's coming from juco. 

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4 minutes ago, LOL said:

I dig that, but do you think Booty thinks he's gonna play Baker Mayfield, and upset the apple cart? How many years of eligibility does he have left? Did he use up his portal free pass, or does he still have it since he's coming from juco. 

I am not even sure that Booty is getting a scholarship. To me this seems more like a move to him to position for his coaching career after he is done playing.

It is not the worst gig in the world to be the 3rd string guy at Oklahoma. Throw some passes and learn some stuff for a few years.

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On 5/16/2022 at 1:02 PM, Valhalla said:

I am not even sure that Booty is getting a scholarship. To me this seems more like a move to him to position for his coaching career after he is done playing.

It is not the worst gig in the world to be the 3rd string guy at Oklahoma. Throw some passes and learn some stuff for a few years.

Kids don’t know how to be a backup anymore.  I’d take a Jr in the transfer portal over a disgruntled RS freshman just looking for playing time.  1 prime example is Joe Burrow

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2 hours ago, LOL said:

We blew it with Haynes, then Jalen, here's hoping we can close the deal with Taylor...

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Riley did not seem interested in King for whatever reason. 
 

I don’t know the details with Hale, but I know he had USC in top 5 so he might have just been a casualty of the regime change. 

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