Mavchamp Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Longevity has GOT to be a priority in the interview process. BUT..... let's be realistic..... there is NOTHING that can guarantee it. That's not the current state of coaching. The long-term situations we see at Longview, Lufkin, and Tyler are almost unicorns these days. And if we were completely honest..... 2 of those fanbases are mostly unhappy with their current staff. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Mavchamp said: Longevity has GOT to be a priority in the interview process. BUT..... let's be realistic..... there is NOTHING that can guarantee it. That's not the current state of coaching. The long-term situations we see at Longview, Lufkin, and Tyler are almost unicorns these days. And if we were completely honest..... 2 of those fanbases are mostly unhappy with their current staff. That goes both ways. I’ve seen plenty of communities run off guys who would have stayed for awhile with unrealistic expectations. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Valhalla said: That goes both ways. I’ve seen plenty of communities run off guys who would have stayed for awhile with unrealistic expectations. Absolutely. Several in our district are guilty of that IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Thinking anyone will stay for any length of time is unrealistic. Coaches, pastors, superintendents…. It’s life in the 21st century. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 13 hours ago, Matt said: Thinking anyone will stay for any length of time is unrealistic. Coaches, pastors, superintendents…. It’s life in the 21st century. STRAIGHT FACTS! People are thinking about career opportunities and advancement. If a school district can find a good, long-term coach or workers, TREAT them well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyRider Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Do you think Marshall would do what others have done and split AD from HC. I think Kilgore and Henderson did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, EasyRider said: Do you think Marshall would do what others have done and split AD from HC. I think Kilgore and Henderson did that. It’s a fair question. But IMHO it’ doubtful because we currently already have an assistant AD that handles all the Ladies’ sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, EasyRider said: Do you think Marshall would do what others have done and split AD from HC. I think Kilgore and Henderson did that. Marshall tried that once. They ended up with a complete ####### and bad Head Football coach. I don’t see them doing that again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketpop Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 The best companies/programs in the world promote from within. Mathis was loved by some and hated by others. Marshall promoted within and grew. Greidl and the staff there knew the ins and outs to get the things done they needed too.., now promote within again and let that guy grow it more since he knows ins and outs too. big name chasing in Marshall is a waste and never worked there. No big name came in and did great…they became big names after marshall or because of marshall. Give it to the guy who already knows and can build on the momentum already there. Greidl never had Ath dir experience and did more than previous 40 years with all sports..can you imagine if they didn’t promote within do to experience then? Promote from within. My 2 cents. Momentum in place. Kids love him already.. why waste time with an outsider? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, rocketpop said: The best companies/programs in the world promote from within. Mathis was loved by some and hated by others. Marshall promoted within and grew. Greidl and the staff there knew the ins and outs to get the things done they needed too.., now promote within again and let that guy grow it more since he knows ins and outs too. big name chasing in Marshall is a waste and never worked there. No big name came in and did great…they became big names after marshall or because of marshall. Give it to the guy who already knows and can build on the momentum already there. Greidl never had Ath dir experience and did more than previous 40 years with all sports..can you imagine if they didn’t promote within do to experience then? Promote from within. My 2 cents. Momentum in place. Kids love him already.. why waste time with an outsider? I'm not opposed to hiring within....but it's always a gamble. There are so many factors that go into things being successful. Don't do it because it's the "easy way". We gotta think long term...not just short term (transition). But we definitely have to make longevity a topic of conversation. But not necessarily a given to stay within..... We hired within back in 2011 and gave the job the OC and it blew up in our face. He was young and charismatic.... and clearly not ready. (3-17) in his two seasons... the worst two year span in program history. Almost killed the program completely. Took us years to climb out of that hole. I don't think people are big name chasing. I think people are naming folks that WANT to be in East Texas....or have already been here a long time. As I've said before in this thread...it's the current state of coaching (and all professions) these days. We all do what's best for our family based on money, location, and boosting one's worth. We've hired within and they left after winning (B Harper, Harris, Griedl) We've hired hometown guys and they left after winning (C Harper) We've hired big names and they left after winning (Parker, Mathis) We've only had one losing coach in the last 40 years.... and that was Richters in 11 and 12. I'll be interested to see who applies..... within and outside. Whoever gets it will come into a program in great shape with facilities, great pay, and lots of talent coming back for 2022 from a playoff team in 2021. Just a matter of getting the right recipe together and make it cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 19 hours ago, Mavchamp said: I'm not opposed to hiring within....but it's always a gamble. There are so many factors that go into things being successful. Don't do it because it's the "easy way". We gotta think long term...not just short term (transition). But we definitely have to make longevity a topic of conversation. But not necessarily a given to stay within..... We hired within back in 2011 and gave the job the OC and it blew up in our face. He was young and charismatic.... and clearly not ready. (3-17) in his two seasons... the worst two year span in program history. Almost killed the program completely. Took us years to climb out of that hole. I don't think people are big name chasing. I think people are naming folks that WANT to be in East Texas....or have already been here a long time. As I've said before in this thread...it's the current state of coaching (and all professions) these days. We all do what's best for our family based on money, location, and boosting one's worth. We've hired within and they left after winning (B Harper, Harris, Griedl) We've hired hometown guys and they left after winning (C Harper) We've hired big names and they left after winning (Parker, Mathis) We've only had one losing coach in the last 40 years.... and that was Richters in 11 and 12. I'll be interested to see who applies..... within and outside. Whoever gets it will come into a program in great shape with facilities, great pay, and lots of talent coming back for 2022 from a playoff team in 2021. Just a matter of getting the right recipe together and make it cook. Easy place to win, but a hard place to coach. Any outsider that does there due diligence will realize this. Marshall is not for just anybody and definitely not for the faint at heart. Better be tougher than a two-dollar steak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachc45 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 11:10 AM, SilkyJohnson said: Because those guys are WAY cheaper. I mean 2-3 years left.... Not sure why they would want Barnes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 4:05 PM, rocketpop said: The best companies/programs in the world promote from within. Mathis was loved by some and hated by others. Marshall promoted within and grew. Greidl and the staff there knew the ins and outs to get the things done they needed too.., now promote within again and let that guy grow it more since he knows ins and outs too. big name chasing in Marshall is a waste and never worked there. No big name came in and did great…they became big names after marshall or because of marshall. Give it to the guy who already knows and can build on the momentum already there. Greidl never had Ath dir experience and did more than previous 40 years with all sports..can you imagine if they didn’t promote within do to experience then? Promote from within. My 2 cents. Momentum in place. Kids love him already.. why waste time with an outsider? You know your opening paragraph completely contradicts with your opening line in paragraph 2… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketpop Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 10 hours ago, playactionpass39 said: Easy place to win, but a hard place to coach. Any outsider that does there due diligence will realize this. Marshall is not for just anybody and definitely not for the faint at heart. Better be tougher than a two-dollar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKS21 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Who on Staff would be the favorite to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryhawk111 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I'm surprised they didn't push for Keeling before Tatum got him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumpisDump Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 Heard a high profile guy inquired about Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryhawk111 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, TrumpisDump said: Heard a high profile guy inquired about Marshall Hmm....Briles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBuddyGarrity Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Jerryhawk111 said: Hmm....Briles Hide your daughters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chubbychecker Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, MrBuddyGarrity said: Hide your daughters. Briles got millions in pay offs from a settled law suit that says he didn't have anything to do with that.......just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumpisDump Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, chubbychecker said: Briles got millions in pay offs from a settled law suit that says he didn't have anything to do with that.......just saying that is true... not guilty.. I like that shake up lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destry Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, TrumpisDump said: Heard a high profile guy inquired about Marshall Initials BB? Asking for a friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKS21 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Word is 2 DC's are in the mix. One Lost to the other in the 4th Round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttownhornet Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, RKS21 said: Word is 2 DC's are in the mix. One Lost to the other in the 4th Round Gilmer/PG? or T-High/Crosby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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