trashyhound Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 12 hours ago, Monte1076 said: "Remember the Alamo" Sam from sales and Willie Landum are very nostalgic to me. I was just a kid but my dad was listening to those guys everyday. Thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 hours ago, ctown81 said: This is too funny. No one outlawed prayer in schools. Students are free to pray in the moment of silence. Jesus says pray in private, but conservative Christians want to have public prayer. Can't make this stuff up. So you believe the reason folks fought so hard to have mandated prayer outlawed was because Jesus instructed to "pray in private"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 My brain hurts from reading so much stupidity from the Cons on this thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: My brain hurts from reading FIFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 7 hours ago, ctown81 said: The effect of systemic racism against blacks in history is common knowledge. It's an elective course. Why does it bother you? Heck there's even a college who has an elective course on batman. It doesn’t bother me. Does other people not agreeing with you bother you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, trashyhound said: So you believe the reason folks fought so hard to have mandated prayer outlawed was because Jesus instructed to "pray in private"? no and i don't know how you got that from my post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 5 hours ago, HearEmaGrowlin said: I think politicians from the D side always lean on racism as a way to rile people up, try to show how they’re the party of the black folks and try to secure your vote, that’s all they’ve ever done. Your life is not better by any actions Democrats have taken in D.C. This is the crazy thing about CRT. This was all conservatives. They needed a new hot topic to get poor whites riled up and decided to make up CRT. Something that's not even taught in grade schools, only colleges. They turned a course about the history of systemic racism to an "all white people are bad argument". Sad thing is, 90% can't even tell you what CRT is. I don't have a party affiliation and i see the bs from both sides. Know one wants to dwell in this but people need to be real with one another and move on from there. This thing is not one sided at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 6 hours ago, PepeSilvia said: My brain hurts from reading so much stupidity from the Cons on this thread. Does that include my post, I hope not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyJoe Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 21 hours ago, ctown81 said: I'm very interested in this. Can you provide links? https://books.google.com/books/about/Black_Slaveowners.html?id=v3KNAwAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, SloppyJoe said: https://books.google.com/books/about/Black_Slaveowners.html?id=v3KNAwAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description I was referring to the bible being a historic document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyJoe Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, ctown81 said: I was referring to the bible being a historic document. https://www-history-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/religion/bible?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16467885044899&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %1%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.history.com%2Ftopics%2Freligion%2Fbible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, SloppyJoe said: https://www-history-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/religion/bible?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16467885044899&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %1%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.history.com%2Ftopics%2Freligion%2Fbible This is about the history of the Bible, not the bible as a historical document. Haven't seen any evidence online that makes it a historical document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ctown81 said: This is about the history of the Bible, not the bible as a historical document. Haven't seen any evidence online that makes it a historical document. What constitutes a historical document in your eyes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: What constitutes a historical document in your eyes? Primary sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, ctown81 said: Primary sources So something has to be a primary source to considered historical? Seems not right, but if that’s the way you want it you do you. The argument of the Bible being an historical document, I thought, was settle at least. I guess it isn’t in your eyes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Youngcoach123 said: So something has to be a primary source to considered historical? Seems not right, but if that’s the way you want it you do you. The argument of the Bible being an historical document, I thought, was settle at least. I guess it isn’t in your eyes Out of the 3000 or so names mentioned in the bible, I think only 52 have been proven to even exists. Hard to call something an historical document when you can even find evidence the people existed. Heck they are still trying to find evidence of the exodus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ctown81 said: Out of the 3000 or so names mentioned in the bible, I think only 52 have been proven to even exists. Hard to call something an historical document when you can even find evidence the people existed. Heck they are still trying to find evidence of the exodus. The proof that God exists is all around you .... And the Dead Sea Srolls are proof enough for me .... not to mention the Holy Spirit ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: The proof that God exists is all around you .... And the Dead Sea Srolls are proof enough for me .... not to mention the Holy Spirit ..... I saw the Dead Sea Scrolls in Fort Worth several years ago, pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, KirtFalcon said: The proof that God exists is all around you .... And the Dead Sea Srolls are proof enough for me .... not to mention the Holy Spirit ..... I get that but we are talking historical documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, ctown81 said: I get that but we are talking historical documents. So the usage and amount of people who use the book throughout the years in no way makes it historical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 hours ago, ctown81 said: Out of the 3000 or so names mentioned in the bible, I think only 52 have been proven to even exists. Hard to call something an historical document when you can even find evidence the people existed. Heck they are still trying to find evidence of the exodus. Ok I did a little reading and I see where your coming from. I could see you saying some of it is not primary sources. But some of it is. Something with such historical effect on our civilizations over the years would still be considered a historical document in my eyes. But to each his own I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ctown81 said: I get that but we are talking historical documents. The Dead Sea Scrolls ARE historical documents ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 hours ago, ctown81 said: Out of the 3000 or so names mentioned in the bible, I think only 52 have been proven to even exists. Hard to call something an historical document when you can even find evidence the people existed. Heck they are still trying to find evidence of the exodus. The Hittites were only known in the historical account of the Bible and people used that to claim that the Bible was wrong.....then an archeologist FOUND the Hittite cities......every historical account in the Bible is 100% absolute truth....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: The Hittites were only known in the historical account of the Bible and people used that to claim that the Bible was wrong.....then an archeologist FOUND the Hittite cities......every historical account in the Bible is 100% absolute truth....... I'm not disputing that but the physical evidence isn't there. It doesn't meet the criteria of a historical document which is ok to those with faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: The Dead Sea Scrolls ARE historical documents ..... Some accounts are but they all are not and the Dead Sea Scrolls is not the Bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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