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Just now, EnjoyLife said:

Serious question...does it matter that when the 2A was written the fastest firearm on the planet was capable of firing 2-3 rounds a minute instead of being able to empty a 30 rd magazine in just seconds?

Only if if matters that when the FIRST AMENDMENT was written the quill pen was the major writing instrument.......

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2 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said:

Only if if matters that when the FIRST AMENDMENT was written the quill pen was the major writing instrument.......

You cant kill a dozen people in less than a minute (like the shooter in Dayton did) with a quill pen.

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17 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said:

You cant kill a dozen people in less than a minute (like the shooter in Dayton did) with a quill pen.

Are you willing to have 1A restricted? Are you willing to let the government tell you how/when/where you MUST worship God? Are you willing to let the government dictate to you what "speech" is? What about the media? Willing to allow them to be restricted?

What about the other Amendments? Are we OK with reducing rights within them?

Nothing in the Constitution ends with "...if we feel like it" or "...unless we don't feel like it."

Ask yourself this: How far are you willing to have your Constitutional rights eroded?

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3 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said:

Its probably pretty relevant to the folks that got blown away.

It's irrelevant in the context of your questions.......emotion has no place in Constitutional Law.......

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4 minutes ago, Monte1076 said:

Are you willing to have 1A restricted? Are you willing to let the government tell you how/when/where you MUST worship God? Are you willing to let the government dictate to you what "speech" is? What about the media? Willing to allow them to be restricted?

What about the other Amendments? Are we OK with reducing rights within them?

Im pretty sure that everything you just mentioned is already restricted to a degree. The 1A does not give you the right to threaten someone or yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre...freedom of worship does not include human sacrifice etc

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8 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said:

Im pretty sure that everything you just mentioned is already restricted to a degree. The 1A does not give you the right to threaten someone or yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre...freedom of worship does not include human sacrifice etc

Ok, let me rephrase: How much further are you willing to let your Constitutional rights be eroded?

I don't think the yelling "fire" thing is true. And I think "human sacrifice" falls under "murder".

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8 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said:

Im pretty sure that everything you just mentioned is already restricted to a degree. The 1A does not give you the right to threaten someone or yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre...freedom of worship does not include human sacrifice etc

One right cannot supersede another for the human sacrifice. You can yell fire in a crowded theater and you can threaten someone under the first amendment. You just can’t actually harm them unless it’s self defense. 
 

the second amendment is for protection from the gov. Whatever guns they have, the people should have.

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36 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said:

Im pretty sure that everything you just mentioned is already restricted to a degree. The 1A does not give you the right to threaten someone or yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre...freedom of worship does not include human sacrifice etc

Straw man arguments will not change the constitution…

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1 hour ago, EnjoyLife said:

Serious question...does it matter that when the 2A was written the fastest firearm on the planet was capable of firing 2-3 rounds a minute instead of being able to empty a 30 rd magazine in just seconds?

Shall not be infringed, Liberal.  The problem isn’t guns, it’s evil.  Your liberal party doesn’t want to punish evil acts.  They want to go easy on them.  Bring the death penalty back in every state, bring God back in school and everything really, and this stuff happens a lot less. Spank children, don’t hand out trophies for every place (even dead last), tell them that homosexuality isn’t normal, quit making video games where you’re a POV killer, quit medicating kids for behavior issues, quit trying to make masculinity in men a bad thing….,  those are just a few things we could start with fixing our problems.

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1 hour ago, RETIREDFAN1 said:

It's irrelevant in the context of your questions.......emotion has no place in Constitutional Law.......

That’s the problem with liberals….  They get all up in their feelings

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4 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

......bring God back in school and everything really, and this stuff happens a lot less. Spank children, don’t hand out trophies for every place (even dead last), tell them that homosexuality isn’t normal, quit making video games where you’re a POV killer, quit medicating kids for behavior issues, quit trying to make masculinity in men a bad thing….,  those are just a few things we could start with fixing our problems.

Every single one of those things would certainly help.

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2 hours ago, EnjoyLife said:

Serious question...does it matter that when the 2A was written the fastest firearm on the planet was capable of firing 2-3 rounds a minute instead of being able to empty a 30 rd magazine in just seconds?

No ....

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3 hours ago, EnjoyLife said:

Serious question...does it matter that when the 2A was written the fastest firearm on the planet was capable of firing 2-3 rounds a minute instead of being able to empty a 30 rd magazine in just seconds?

No

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3 minutes ago, BlahBlah said:

The gun lobby is strong.  The gun lobby should be in awe in the power the pharmaceutical lobby has.  No one can even question the pharmaceutical companies on this.  

The gun didn't commit a crime.....the thug did......

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