cujoforlife Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Since everyone one else has started I guess I will as well. I will put more in later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 JT has to be the favorite the way both team's off seasons have gone. Marshall learning an entire new system, with a new coaching staff. Lions have been clicking on in the spring with what they have returning, and returning to what Tyler probably should be. Hard to see the Mavs winning this, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Not sure if Marshall will be able to keep up with the amount of athletes that JT will have on the field. Derrick McFall himself is a huge difference maker....I'll take Tyler High by multiple possessions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, ANTI said: Not sure if Marshall will be able to keep up with the amount of athletes that JT will have on the field. Derrick McFall himself is a huge difference maker....I'll take Tyler High by multiple possessions. This coaching staff has seen this offense that Marshall will be running. Since it was at Ennis. Back when they were in the same district. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Also, I know folks in Marshall have had concerns about their OL. Tyler will have a much improved DL this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Absolutely no doubt in my mind Tyler should be the favorite in this game. Just like last season.... defense SHOULD be Marshall's strength this year. They kept us close in some games that we were clearly out-talented in (New Caney, Longview, Texas High). Our offense was difficult to watch at times last year. It was consistently inconsistent. I've said it multiple times..... the Mav defense dragged Marshall to victory last season kicking and screaming against the offense's will several times (MP, PT, Bryan Rudder). But then....the offense would inexplicably have great offensive games like against McKinney North, Hallsville, Whitehouse... all blowout wins. Made no sense. If the defense can pick up where they left off.... they could keep this game competitive. BUT.... How quickly this new offense gels will be key. We will return JQ Davis at RB, who was arguably the #2 best back in the district last season. He SHOULD be the #1 runner in 2022, but we will have to see. He will be spelled by Bird in the backfield, giving Marshall a 1-2 punch in the backfield. We had a couple of other guys last season that had some good totes that will be back as well. The WR corps should be fun to watch this season if things come together well. We have two guys that are 6'5" with pretty good hands. Not to mention JQ had some great catches last year too. WR's Jacori Smith and "Giko" McCoy will be keys along with JQ. Those three guys accounted for about 1300 yards in receiving last season. We will need them to pick up where they left off. The big question mark headed into this season is the QB position. We have three guys that have basically each getting an equal share of snaps during 7 on 7. Slone Collier will be a junior this season. He started two games last year (New Caney and Longview) and REALLY struggled as a sophomore. We switched to a senior QB after that. Then we lost our Sr QB late last season.... the staff made special packages for two different guys at QB. Slone returned after the senior was injured and shared QB duties with Bird. The staff made special packages for each and it really seemed to work. Bird was more mobile.... Slone was more accurate with his arm. Slone played in the last 2 district games and sporadically in the two playoff games. He showed big improvement from September to November. Slone is likely the starter..... but there is a chance he will share duties. He has a cannon and can thread a needle. But he isn't very mobile. If he gets flushed out of the pocket....he struggles a lot. Bird could be used at QB in some situations. He's a great scrambler. He can chunk it a mile...but he struggles with accuracy. Zach Smith could also see some action at QB..... I think he is likely the #2 guy. I think the staff wants Bird in the backfield with JQ. Zach is mobile too....has a good arm. But again...not at accurate with the arm. I think he's a sophomore this season. But don't quote me on that. ------------- All this to say..... we have some really good talent returning from a team that went 2 rounds deep last year. Defense SHOULD be pretty stingy. Offense has some really good parts (RB, WR). But there are question marks with QB and OL. Who knows how smooth the transition to the hybrid Wing T Alvarez has had so much success with at Ennis and Cuero. If the transition is smooth and the QB comes around...we could be dangerous. If things gel slowly.... the start of the season could be rough with Tyler, Longview, and Carthage as 3 of our first four games. Even if we go (1-3) to start the season..... Im confident we will be competitive in district play. We have a murder's row in non-district play. All three teams will make us better. Hoping for an exciting game....and a possible upset. But..... as things stand now.... Tyler is the favorite. ---------- Fun Fact: Tyler is Marshall's oldest football rival. One year older than Longview. MHS and Tyler first met in 1908. I'll have more historical stuff when the game gets closer. GO MAVS GO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 The key factor is how much can Alvarez implement in the first game. Tyler high has a new qb in this matchup as well. I like Tyler high mainly because our coaches have seen it, and it so happens that Terrell, Tyler high scrimmage the week before, runs the wing T as well. I think it's going to be a competitive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav01 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 I won't make any votes or predictions until I see our scrimmage vs Legacy. I do think our defense will be stingy enough to keep us in the game. We return the core of a defense that held Longview to 14 points while having NO offense to boot. I'm waiting to see if we will be able to score enough to even consider winning this game. It's been ugly the last 2 years on O. I'd imagine JA will keep it simple on our young Qbs by relying heavily on JQ and Bird in the backfield. If JT can consistently stop the early version of our running game, it's theirs to lose. It will be interesting to see where our offense is at heading into this game. Most notably the oline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 I hope gas prices are down by the time this game will be played. So I can drive to Marshall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav01 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, cujoforlife said: I gas prices are down by the time this game will be played. Do I can drive to Marshall. Wishful thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 hours ago, mav01 said: Wishful thinking I know, but I can dream can’t I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 Since this game will be played on my birthday. A Win would be a good birthday present. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 Will the game be on YouTube as a replay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Slowly building back the Maverick forum after a hiatus. Going to see if we can get it back to where it once was. The Tyler Vs. Marshall thread is up and running. https://mavnation.freeforums.net/thread/39/week-1-tyler-marshall?page=1&scrollTo=238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 https://www.marshallmavericks.net/ The GAMEDAY tab for Tyler Vs. Marshall isn't completed yet. I'll get that posted a little closer to the game when we may have a better idea on rosters and such. Always open to suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Mcfall #2RB in in Texas for the 2024 class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: Mcfall #2RB in in Texas for the 2024 class. Not surprised at all. Looking forward to his play for Tyler high this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav01 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 See Longviews is the 1 in TX. And Marshall gets to play both in back to back weeks in back to back years. Should make the rest of the season a little easier at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLion10 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: Mcfall #2RB in in Texas for the 2024 class. Anybody seen Payne play? Curious to see how he stacks up with the two East TX players ranked up there in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFootball Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 John Tyler wins easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav01 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I think JT O and Mav D are both about equal on paper, with neither getting dominated. Thus the deciding factor being JT D vs Mav O. Will Marshall be able to execute an entire new system this early in the season? If so, will JTs defense be good enough to shut it down? If we see a clumsy, error prone, early rendition of a wing T, it's definitely JTs game to lose. If we see a physical Mav o-line that is able to create space for the 2 headed monster backfield, it could be a barnburner. Mav Qb needs to be able to just manage the game without much pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 5 hours ago, mav01 said: I think JT O and Mav D are both about equal on paper, with neither getting dominated. Thus the deciding factor being JT D vs Mav O. Will Marshall be able to execute an entire new system this early in the season? If so, will JTs defense be good enough to shut it down? If we see a clumsy, error prone, early rendition of a wing T, it's definitely JTs game to lose. If we see a physical Mav o-line that is able to create space for the 2 headed monster backfield, it could be a barnburner. Mav Qb needs to be able to just manage the game without much pressure. I have to agree with this. Like you said, can Marshall do enough on offense against Tyler high D. IMO, Tyler high has another advantage. Our coaches have seen this offense before from when Alvarez was at Ennis. TH still has plenty of coaches on the staff who coached against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 12 hours ago, CUJONATION83 said: I have to agree with this. Like you said, can Marshall do enough on offense against Tyler high D. IMO, Tyler high has another advantage. Our coaches have seen this offense before from when Alvarez was at Ennis. TH still has plenty of coaches on the staff who coached against him. On paper this should be one of JT's best team in several yrs. The def should overall be better. They return like 9 starters and added some big time players. Off return everybody and O-line is bigger this yr. Only ONE question mark...QB. That could be the downfall of this team. They don't have a qb for this class and the two they are counting on have no experience at the varsity level. All there yrs of elite qb's at JT and now they can't find one. Hopefully these guys work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, JTFAN99 said: On paper this should be one of JT's best team in several yrs. The def should overall be better. They return like 9 starters and added some big time players. Off return everybody and O-line is bigger this yr. Only ONE question mark...QB. That could be the downfall of this team. They don't have a qb for this class and the two they are counting on have no experience at the varsity level. All there yrs of elite qb's at JT and now they can't find one. Hopefully these guys work out. Yep, but we will just have to hope for the best. Don't be surprised if JT runs alot more this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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