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Tyler High @ Marshall Week 1


Old rivalry renewed  

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  1. 1. Who Will Win



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JT has to be the favorite the way both team's off seasons have gone. Marshall learning an entire new system, with a new coaching staff. Lions have been clicking on in the spring with what they have returning, and returning to what Tyler probably should be. Hard to see the Mavs winning this, but who knows.

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Not sure if Marshall will be able to keep up with the amount of athletes that JT will have on the field.

Derrick McFall himself is a huge difference maker....I'll take Tyler High by multiple possessions.

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25 minutes ago, ANTI said:

Not sure if Marshall will be able to keep up with the amount of athletes that JT will have on the field.

Derrick McFall himself is a huge difference maker....I'll take Tyler High by multiple possessions.

This coaching staff has seen this offense that Marshall will be running. Since it was at Ennis. Back when they were in the same district.

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Absolutely no doubt in my mind Tyler should be the favorite in this game.

Just like last season.... defense SHOULD be Marshall's strength this year.   They kept us close in some games that we were clearly out-talented in (New Caney, Longview, Texas High). 

Our offense was difficult to watch at times last year.  It was consistently inconsistent.

I've said it multiple times..... the Mav defense dragged Marshall to victory last season kicking and screaming against the offense's will several times (MP, PT, Bryan Rudder).

But then....the offense would inexplicably have great offensive games like against McKinney North, Hallsville, Whitehouse... all blowout wins.  Made no sense.

If the defense can pick up where they left off.... they could keep this game competitive.

BUT....

How quickly this new offense gels will be key.

We will return JQ Davis at RB, who was arguably the #2 best back in the district last season.  He SHOULD be the #1 runner in 2022, but we will have to see.  He will be spelled by Bird in the backfield, giving Marshall a 1-2 punch in the backfield.  We had a couple of other guys last season that had some good totes that will be back as well.

The WR corps should be fun to watch this season if things come together well.   We have two guys that are 6'5" with pretty good hands.  Not to mention JQ had some great catches last year too.

WR's Jacori Smith and "Giko" McCoy will be keys along with JQ.  Those three guys accounted for about 1300 yards in receiving last season.  We will need them to pick up where they left off.

The big question mark headed into this season is the QB position.  We have three guys that have basically each getting an equal share of snaps during 7 on 7.

Slone Collier will be a junior this season.  He started two games last year (New Caney and Longview) and REALLY struggled as a sophomore.  We switched to a senior QB after that.

Then we lost our Sr QB late last season.... the staff made special packages for two different guys at QB.

Slone returned after the senior was injured and shared QB duties with Bird.  The staff made special packages for each and it really seemed to work.  Bird was more mobile.... Slone was more accurate with his arm.  Slone played in the last 2 district games and sporadically in the two playoff games.  He showed big improvement from September to November.

Slone is likely the starter..... but there is a chance he will share duties.  He has a cannon and can thread a needle.  But he isn't very mobile.  If he gets flushed out of the pocket....he struggles a lot.

Bird could be used at QB in some situations.  He's a great scrambler.  He can chunk it a mile...but he struggles with accuracy.

Zach Smith could also see some action at QB..... I think he is likely the #2 guy.  I think the staff wants Bird in the backfield with JQ.  Zach is mobile too....has a good arm.  But again...not at accurate with the arm.  I think he's a sophomore this season.  But don't quote me on that.

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All this to say..... we have some really good talent returning from a team that went 2 rounds deep last year.  Defense SHOULD be pretty stingy.  Offense has some really good parts (RB, WR).

But there are question marks with QB and OL.

Who knows how smooth the transition to the hybrid Wing T Alvarez has had so much success with at Ennis and Cuero.  

If the transition is smooth and the QB comes around...we could be dangerous.

If things gel slowly.... the start of the season could be rough with Tyler, Longview, and Carthage as 3 of our first four games.

Even if we go (1-3) to start the season..... Im confident we will be competitive in district play.  We have a murder's row in non-district play.  All three teams will make us better.

Hoping for an exciting game....and a possible upset.

But..... as things stand now.... Tyler is the favorite.

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Fun Fact:  Tyler is Marshall's oldest football rival.  One year older than Longview.  MHS and Tyler first met in 1908.

I'll have more historical stuff when the game gets closer.

GO MAVS GO!

 

 

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The key factor is how much can Alvarez implement in the first game. Tyler high has a new qb in this matchup as well. I like Tyler high mainly because our coaches have seen it, and it so happens that Terrell, Tyler high scrimmage the week before, runs the wing T as well. I think it's going to be a competitive game. 

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I won't make any votes or predictions until I see our scrimmage vs Legacy.  

I do think our defense will be stingy enough to keep us in the game. We return the core of a defense that held Longview to 14 points while having NO offense to boot. 

I'm waiting to see if we will be able to score enough to even consider winning this game. It's been ugly the last 2 years on O. I'd imagine JA will keep it simple on our young Qbs by relying heavily on JQ and Bird in the backfield. If JT can consistently stop the early version of our running game,  it's theirs to lose. 

It will be interesting to see where our offense is at heading into this game. Most notably the oline. 

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1 hour ago, cujoforlife said:

This is off topic, but however, I will be in Marshall Sunday. What are some good places to go out to eat at??

If you are looking for a clean place with great food - Elisha’s Food for the Soul……….parking lot will not impress you…….building is fine but not fancy at all……waitresses and food are normally top notch and not all that expensive. 

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1 hour ago, cotton84 said:

If you are looking for a clean place with great food - Elisha’s Food for the Soul……….parking lot will not impress you…….building is fine but not fancy at all……waitresses and food are normally top notch and not all that expensive. 

Cool. Any good soul food places.

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If you want LOCAL..... here are some suggestions:

Soul Food-
Elisha's Food for the soul.  Absolutely delicious.

Mexican-
Miguel's on the downtown square (more authentic)
Don Juan's  on Victory Drive (Hwy 80) (more tex mex)
Jose Tequila's East End Blvd South (Hyw 50) (mix of tex mex and authentic)
Del Taco

Burgers-
Jucy's- Victory Drive (east texas legend)

Japanese/Sushi-
In Japan- East End Bld South (Hibachi and table menu)

Italian-
Pazzaria- Downtown Square
Cafe Italia- I-20/Hwy 59

Greek/Italian-
Gucci's

Indian-
Taste of India (unbelievably good)

Chinese-
China King (garden variety buffet)
Peking (no buffet, order menu only)

BBQ-
Neely's (the legend)
Bodacious (Victory Dr)
Best of Texas BBQ (Bailey Cut-off)

Tacos-
Toco's Reyes (Grande Ave)
Several trucks across town

Seafood/Crawfish-
Crawfish Shack- Hwy 59

Home Cooking-
The Blue Frog (downtown)
Dinner Bell Cafe (Hwy 59)

Cajun-
Cajun Tex

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If you want chains...we got most of them (Chilis, Applebees, Chick-Fil-A, Dairy Queen, Wendy's, Jalepeno Tree, Golden Chick, Popeyes, Schlotzkey's, Subway, Chicken express, Little Ceasers, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Mickey Dees, Whataburger etc, etc, etc).

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3 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

If you want LOCAL..... here are some suggestions:

Soul Food-
Elisha's Food for the soul.  Absolutely delicious.

Mexican-
Miguel's on the downtown square (more authentic)
Don Juan's  on Victory Drive (Hwy 80) (more tex mex)
Jose Tequila's East End Blvd South (Hyw 50) (mix of tex mex and authentic)
Del Taco

Burgers-
Jucy's- Victory Drive (east texas legend)

Japanese/Sushi-
In Japan- East End Bld South (Hibachi and table menu)

Italian-
Pazzaria- Downtown Square
Cafe Italia- I-20/Hwy 59

Greek/Italian-
Gucci's

Indian-
Taste of India (unbelievably good)

Chinese-
China King (garden variety buffet)
Peking (no buffet, order menu only)

BBQ-
Neely's (the legend)
Bodacious (Victory Dr)
Best of Texas BBQ (Bailey Cut-off)

Tacos-
Toco's Reyes (Grande Ave)
Several trucks across town

Seafood/Crawfish-
Crawfish Shack- Hwy 59

Home Cooking-
The Blue Frog (downtown)
Dinner Bell Cafe (Hwy 59)

Cajun-
Cajun Tex

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If you want chains...we got most of them (Chilis, Applebees, Chick-Fil-A, Dairy Queen, Wendy's, Jalepeno Tree, Golden Chick, Popeyes, Schlotzkey's, Subway, Chicken express, Little Ceasers, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Mickey Dees, Whataburger etc, etc, etc).

Okay cool thank you.

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On 6/23/2022 at 5:27 PM, Mavchamp said:

If you want LOCAL..... here are some suggestions:

Soul Food-
Elisha's Food for the soul.  Absolutely delicious.

Mexican-
Miguel's on the downtown square (more authentic)
Don Juan's  on Victory Drive (Hwy 80) (more tex mex)
Jose Tequila's East End Blvd South (Hyw 50) (mix of tex mex and authentic)
Del Taco

Burgers-
Jucy's- Victory Drive (east texas legend)

Japanese/Sushi-
In Japan- East End Bld South (Hibachi and table menu)

Italian-
Pazzaria- Downtown Square
Cafe Italia- I-20/Hwy 59

Greek/Italian-
Gucci's

Indian-
Taste of India (unbelievably good)

Chinese-
China King (garden variety buffet)
Peking (no buffet, order menu only)

BBQ-
Neely's (the legend)
Bodacious (Victory Dr)
Best of Texas BBQ (Bailey Cut-off)

Tacos-
Toco's Reyes (Grande Ave)
Several trucks across town

Seafood/Crawfish-
Crawfish Shack- Hwy 59

Home Cooking-
The Blue Frog (downtown)
Dinner Bell Cafe (Hwy 59)

Cajun-
Cajun Tex

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If you want chains...we got most of them (Chilis, Applebees, Chick-Fil-A, Dairy Queen, Wendy's, Jalepeno Tree, Golden Chick, Popeyes, Schlotzkey's, Subway, Chicken express, Little Ceasers, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Mickey Dees, Whataburger etc, etc, etc).

We ate at juicy burgers very good food.

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