nacdragon07 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 It’s been some time since we’ve played the wildcats. We last scrimmaged them in 2005 I believe. We will open up the season at home. This is the season that Nac needs to take a step forward we can’t use any excuses. Allman has been here for a while now. We know the system we’ve had a full offseason we return the majority of the back from last year. A convincing win to kick off the season will do us some good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoEagles Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Nac takes it. I’d say it’s 85/15 in Nac’s favor. Unless there’s been a big change at Pal I’m not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacwagons Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 2 hours ago, LetsGoEagles said: Nac takes it. I’d say it’s 85/15 in Nac’s favor. Unless there’s been a big change at Pal I’m not aware of. Yeah I dont think that is realistic!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacwagons Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 The last time I show Nac/Palestine playing was 2002 and 2003 and Palestine won 41-21 and 62-14. Palestine leads the all time series 21-25-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Falcon Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nacwagons said: The last time I show Nac/Palestine playing was 2002 and 2003 and Palestine won 41-21 and 62-14. Palestine leads the all time series 21-25-4. Is "21-25-4" considered "leading"? I thought to "lead" a series you had to have "more wins"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacdragon07 Posted July 2, 2022 Author Share Posted July 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, 89Falcon said: Is "21-25-4" considered "leading"? I thought to "lead" a series you had to have "more wins"? Got the numbers backwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Gotta stop the Wing T. Crazy offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoEagles Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Nacwagons said: Yeah I dont think that is realistic!! Do you think it should be closer? Like 60/40? With all due respect, how bad does Nac suck? Pal is 4th place lose in 1st round last 2 years 4A school. Isn’t Nac 5A? I don’t mean any disrespect but figured Nac is definitely favored. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacdragon07 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, LetsGoEagles said: Do you think it should be closer? Like 60/40? With all due respect, how bad does Nac suck? Pal is 4th place lose in 1st round last 2 years 4A school. Isn’t Nac 5A? I don’t mean any disrespect but figured Nac is definitely favored. No? We haven’t won a playoff game since 92. Sooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacdragon07 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Matt said: Gotta stop the Wing T. Crazy offense. Dang well at least it will get us ready for Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs12 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Palestine wins this one. I know they had a solid ‘24 class as freshman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoEagles Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Oh. Well….. how about Nac 51/49? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShirtD Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Going with Nac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Nacogdoches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Poll added...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacwagons Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 15 hours ago, 89Falcon said: Is "21-25-4" considered "leading"? I thought to "lead" a series you had to have "more wins"? yeah I typed Nacs record vs Palestine is 21-25-4, Palestine leads the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacwagons Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 11 hours ago, LetsGoEagles said: Do you think it should be closer? Like 60/40? With all due respect, how bad does Nac suck? Pal is 4th place lose in 1st round last 2 years 4A school. Isn’t Nac 5A? I don’t mean any disrespect but figured Nac is definitely favored. No? Nac may be favored but it wont be by an outrageous amount. if you want to say 42-28 or 28-12 ok I could get on board with that but Nac isn't scoring 80 and outside of multiple overtime games I don't know the last time they scored in the 60s. Ok had to look, highest Non-OT Points scored by Nac in last 10 years 2018-56pts-vs MP 2015-51pts-WH 2019-49Pts-Jax 2014-46Pts-WH 2018-45pts-Jax 2013-45Pts-PT Most of our highest point totals in Nac History happened under an OC that we play against this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoEagles Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Sorry. I should have clarified. I meant by percentage favored to win. 85/15. 85% Nac to 15% Pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayKing Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1st game of the year whoever makes the least mistakes will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacwagons Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 22 hours ago, LetsGoEagles said: Sorry. I should have clarified. I meant by percentage favored to win. 85/15. 85% Nac to 15% Pal Now this I could see as being the favorite, thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 This one is hard for me to call simply because I don't know much of anything about Palestine and what they have coming back....or how the program is currently trending. I know traditionally speaking....Palestine is a strong program. Traditionally Nac has struggled. ----------- Nac is a mystery for me. At limes last season I thought they seemed like a team to be taken seriously for the district championship. Other times they struggled more than I expected. Our season finale with them last year...I was expecting a TOUGH battle. We were using 2 back up quarterbacks and Nac needed a win to clinch a playoff spot. After what had occurred in 2020 in the same game/situation....I was prepared to get punched in the mouth with all our injuries. But what transpired was that Nac didn't put up much of a fight at all. Which Nac will show up in 2022? The one loaded with returning starters that won some big games last season when they needed it.... or the Nac that squatted in the season finale? Obviously there is a HUGE difference in November football and August football....anyone is beatable in a season opener. IMHO....Nac SHOULD be favored. They have some talent back from a team that was better than they showed at times last eyar. But my lack of knowledge about Palestine makes them a wildcard in my mind. Good 4A programs can play with a 5A program. I can think of several..... Pleasant Grove, Carthage, Henderson, Kilgore. I'll take Nac in a close one until further notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacdragon07 Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Mavchamp said: This one is hard for me to call simply because I don't know much of anything about Palestine and what they have coming back....or how the program is currently trending. I know traditionally speaking....Palestine is a strong program. Traditionally Nac has struggled. ----------- Nac is a mystery for me. At limes last season I thought they seemed like a team to be taken seriously for the district championship. Other times they struggled more than I expected. Our season finale with them last year...I was expecting a TOUGH battle. We were using 2 back up quarterbacks and Nac needed a win to clinch a playoff spot. After what had occurred in 2020 in the same game/situation....I was prepared to get punched in the mouth with all our injuries. But what transpired was that Nac didn't put up much of a fight at all. Which Nac will show up in 2022? The one loaded with returning starters that won some big games last season when they needed it.... or the Nac that squatted in the season finale? Obviously there is a HUGE difference in November football and August football....anyone is beatable in a season opener. IMHO....Nac SHOULD be favored. They have some talent back from a team that was better than they showed at times last eyar. But my lack of knowledge about Palestine makes them a wildcard in my mind. Good 4A programs can play with a 5A program. I can think of several..... Pleasant Grove, Carthage, Henderson, Kilgore. I'll take Nac in a close one until further notice. We’ve had our fair share of Kilgore. I’m glad we are playing someone else to kick off the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacwagons Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 17 hours ago, nacdragon07 said: We’ve had our fair share of Kilgore. I’m glad we are playing someone else to kick off the season. I am glad we are playing new teams for our entire Non-District schedule. With the exception of Lufkin we don't have recent history with the teams we are playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoEagles Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I feel Like I come from an interesting perspective. We were in Nacs district until we dropped down to Palestine’s district a couple years ago. They’re actually similar in that they look loaded with athletes but seem to underperform. You can watch them play and always expect more. Pal runs a wing-T or slot-T maybe? It’s one of those more run oriented offenses. They’re not disciplined defensively. Maybe it’s coaching. Maybe it’s culture but when you watch them you expect more. They seem to perform better in non-district than in district and when things get tough in a game, they’ll start to argue with each other and get frustrated. They are very beatable unless something drastic has changed. After hearing more about Nac, I’ll change my percentages to 70/30 in favor of Nac. Lindale is in a reloading phase this year in several key positions like QB and we lost our entire receiving core and some solid defensive lineman. But if we play up to our potential we ought to handle Pal just fine. We absolutely destroyed them last year. I think it was like 45-6 at halftime. And this was at their place on Sr. Night with playoff implications on the line. They just don’t seem to be able to play up to the moment. But our QB struggled with that as well at times last year, which is probably why he is playing baseball in college. Nac 31 Pal 20 type score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSensei Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/2/2022 at 10:38 PM, LetsGoEagles said: Do you think it should be closer? Like 60/40? With all due respect, how bad does Nac suck? Pal is 4th place lose in 1st round last 2 years 4A school. Isn’t Nac 5A? I don’t mean any disrespect but figured Nac is definitely favored. No? Dang, I thought you were pose to root for the other teams in your district until y’all play each other or district starts. SMH.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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