ctown81 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 48 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Socialism is the last step to communism....read the Manifesto dumass..... Name more than one developed country in the past 100 years with a democratic government that went from socialism to capitalism. Lets see what your dumass come up with. I'll wait for your dumass to come up with some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, ctown81 said: Name more than one developed country in the past 100 years with a democratic government that went from socialism to capitalism. Lets see what your dumass come up with. I'll wait for your dumass to come up with some. So no sense at all from a dimtard..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, RETIREDFAN1 said: So no sense at all from a dimtard..... No, you always say this. Show me an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, ctown81 said: No, you always say this. Show me an example. Read the Comminist Manifesto dumbass...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Read the Comminist Manifesto dumass...... I've read it dumass. I asked you to give me examples and you can't. As a matter of fact, your dumass didn't even read chapter one. If you actually read it, it starts with capitalism. So capitalism is the actual first step to be honest. You know the divide between the working class and the upper class. Marx also stated a revolution would take place in which the working class would rise up. So with that being said, CAPITALISM that you say is so GREAT, gets the ball running. So did you skip to chapter 3. You wanna call someone dumb but you haven't even read it yourself or you just pick and choose whatever fits your agenda. So if you want to talk crap, lets start with CHAPTER ONE dumass. I'm here for it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Read the Comminist Manifesto dumass...... You know what? I got you. Here's a link right here for all to read what YOU glossed over. CHAPTER ONE RIGHT BELOW https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Read the Comminist Manifesto dumass...... wait...did you just delete my last post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, ctown81 said: wait...did you just delete my last post? Oh hell...sorry....getting used to this new phone.....lol..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 hours ago, ctown81 said: Yes it is. Y'all think socialist=communism but it means mixed economy. Communism- zero private ownership. The govt owns 80% of the energy in the country https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Oh hell...sorry....getting used to this new phone.....lol..... Sad thing is, I actually believe. I know ur used to party lines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, ctown81 said: Sad thing is, I actually believe. I know ur used to party lines. Hey....my first new phone in 6 years.....lol.....I just now figured out how to set my alarm clock....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, ctown81 said: Sad thing is, I actually believe. I know ur used to party lines. And party lines were awesome...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 On 8/7/2022 at 3:24 PM, DB2point0 said: Norway isn’t socialist I agree...but most right wing folks would say differently since Norway has universal Healthcare and a robust social safety net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, EnjoyLife said: I agree...but most right wing folks would say differently since Norway has universal Healthcare and a robust social safety net. Incorrect. It’s the left that constantly points to the Nordic model to back their argument that socialism works. Time and again those countries have set them straight. Socialism is Cuba, Venezuela, etc…. Where people are revolting at the moment. the US govt hasn’t proven they could manage a dog and pony show, much less govt healthcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Incorrect. It’s the left that constantly points to the Nordic model to back their argument that socialism works. Idk, man. Anytime I point out that every advanced nation on the face of the earth (including Norway)...except the US... has universal Healthcare the right wing folks start ranting about socialism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said: Idk, man. Anytime I point out that every advanced nation on the face of the earth (including Norway)...except the US... has universal Healthcare the right wing folks start ranting about socialism. I will acknowledge it usually is a part of socialism. But that alone doesn’t make a country socialist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, DB2point0 said: But that alone doesn’t make a country socialist. I agree. Universal healthcare does not make a country "socialist" any more than driving on public roads or getting a drink from a public water system makes a country socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, DB2point0 said: the US govt hasn’t proven they could manage a dog and pony show, much less govt healthcare. That is a fair argument. Let me ask you this...the governments of other advanced nations seem to manage their healthcare systems pretty efficiently. They spend roughly 40% less per capita on healthcare than we do and they get measurably better results (although we do better with cancer) while covering all of their people. Why can the govts of France/Germany/the Nordic countries/Japan/Australia/the UK/the Netherlands/Austria/South Korea etc do it efficiently...but the govt of the US can not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, EnjoyLife said: That is a fair argument. Let me ask you this...the governments of other advanced nations seem to manage their healthcare systems pretty efficiently. They spend roughly 40% less per capita on healthcare than we do and they get measurably better results (although we do better with cancer) while covering all of their people. Why can the govts of France/Germany/the Nordic countries/Japan/Australia/the UK/the Netherlands/Austria/South Korea etc do it efficiently...but the govt of the US can not? Because they are socialist slaves...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Because they are socialist slaves...... This and I don't think they allow their politicians to be bought by Big Pharma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Because they are socialist slaves...... Im pretty sure it would come as a huge surprise to the citizens of those nations that they are socialist slaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, ObiOne said: This and I don't think they allow their politicians to be bought by Big Pharma. I agree completely about our reps being bought by pharma...and other special interest groups. No one has ever explained to me the difference between lobbying and bribery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 hours ago, EnjoyLife said: I agree...but most right wing folks would say differently since Norway has universal Healthcare and a robust social safety net. They also own 80% of the oil and gas industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 15 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: And party lines were awesome...... The woman on our party line's a nosy thing, she picks up her receiver when she knows it's my ring... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ctown81 said: They also own 80% of the oil and gas industry Who owns 80%? The Norwegian govt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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