BarryLaverty Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Here's some facts and figures about the Inflation Reduction Act that the destructionist GOP won't vote for but will probably take credit for later. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inflation-reduction-act-whats-in-the-now-sinema-approved-bill-aimed-at-lowering-costs-for-americans-205141884.html Inflation Reduction Act: What's in the (now Sinema approved) bill aimed at lowering costs for Americans Ben Werschkul Fri, August 5, 2022, 3:51 PM Yahoo Finance Presents: Larry Summers, Fmr U.S. Treasury Secretary It’s a deal set that is set to use hundreds of billion dollars over the coming decade to reshape the fight against climate change, how Obamacare works, the price of prescription drugs, and the U.S. tax code's treatment of big corporations. Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Joe Manchin (D-WV) surprised the world on July 27 when they released their sweeping bill known as the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). Then on August 4, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) propelled the deal closer to the finish line when she announced she would support the bill after of course making a few tweaks. The so-called IRA — which still has plenty of hurdles to overcome before it becomes law — is a far cry from some early Democratic ambitions but nonetheless marks a potentially giant win for Biden and Democrats just a few months before November's midterm elections. The rapid turnaround on the bill has left Democrats celebrating and Republicans shell-shocked. On August 4, Biden said in a statementthat Sinema's support was "another critical step toward reducing inflation and the cost of living for America’s families." Republicans are expected to line up en masse against the proposal but it can pass with only the votes of all 50 Democratic senators because of the rule of reconciliation. The bill has gained the support of figures like former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, who notably predicted the Biden administration's post-pandemic stimulus efforts would stoke inflation. He reportedly helped shape this deal and said in a recent Yahoo Finance interview, "I think that the total effects of this bill could very likely be positive." Here's what the IRA will do: About $390 billion for climate change and energy efforts The centerpiece of the bill is a giant allocation toward climate change and energy efforts. Schumer has noted repeatedly that this bill “will be the largest action on climate change ever passed by the Congress.” If enacted, it will spread money all around the green economy, from $9 billion toward a program to retrofit homes to $20 billion to manufacture more electric vehicles. Automakers like GM (GM), Tesla (TSLA), and Toyota (TM) are expected to benefit from the money as well as the expansion of a $7,500 EV tax credit included in the deal. Approximately $385 billion in total will fund clean manufacturing, agriculture efforts, and other sectors. Advocates for the package say it will reduce U.S. carbon emissions by roughly 40% by 2030. The news has climate activists, who had largely given up on the chances of action from Washington D.C. this year, ecstatic. As one example, Evergreen Action Executive Director Jamal Raad said in a statement that the bill could “mitigate the worst impacts of climate change, reduce energy costs for working families, and save countless lives.” The bill also has provisions that would impact the energy industry more widely, including new rules around federal land sales that may lead to oil drilling and a fund to permanently extend the Black Lung Disability Trust Fund. That will help many former coal miners in Manchin’s home state of West Virginia. In total, the bill has many provisions that even the oil industry has gotten behind. Late in the process, according to multiple news reports, Sinema secured an additional $5 billion in the bill to combat droughts around the country. The provision will be welcomed in her home state of Arizona and others in the Southwest that are suffering a drought that, by one measure, is the worst in 12 centuries. Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV). and Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) on Capitol Hill in Nov. 2021. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images) Changes to the health care system The bill also makes significant changes to the health care system. One key provision will allow Medicare to negotiate for prescription drug prices. Current law prohibits Medicare from intervening in the talks between drug makers and health plan sponsors. The new rules would allow the government to weigh in to push down prices and save consumers — and the government — billions. The bill also would add an inflation cap on drug prices to stabilize monthly costs and cap out-of-pocket drug expenses through new rules on rebates. All told, budget experts expect the combined changes will bring $320 billion into the U.S. Treasury in the coming decade. The IRA also extends subsidies for health insurance costs that began in the 2010 Affordable Care Act for an additional three years. That provision comes with a price tag of about $64 billion. The subsidies had previously been extended in the American Rescue Plan and are currently set to expire this fall. If the bill doesn't pass, millions of Americans could see price increases in the fall. Over $300 billion for the deficit A cherry on top for advocates of the package is that the bill will reduce the deficit by over $300 billion over the coming decade through a series of “pay fors” (more on that below). Manchin made deficit reduction a must-have portion of the bill to earn his support and noted “it is past time for America to begin paying down our $30 trillion national debt” in announcing his support for the deal. Questions have been raised about the actual inflation-fighting powers of the bill, most notably in the Penn Wharton Budget Model. Their first estimate of the bill and found little inflation impact. It “would very slightly increase inflation until 2024 and decrease inflation thereafter," it stated. During his conversation with Yahoo Finance, Summers cited deficit reduction as the key reason he expects the bill will reduce inflation and push back hard on the Wharton analysis, saying it "takes no account of lower prescription drug prices [and] takes no account of increased energy supply" but, even then, he noted "the Wharton analysis acknowledges that this legislation is doing great things for the environment, great things for health access, great things for fairness, without contributing to inflation." Other estimates have found slightly higher inflation impacts, leading to partisan sniping on the issue and whether the bill is misnamed. New taxes to pay for it To pay for it all, in addition to health care savings, the bill makes three changes to the tax code. There is a new minimum corporate tax that would apply to corporations that have made over $1 billion in book profits in recent years. That idea was initially projected to raise $313 billion, but a change from Sinema around rules about depreciation that manufacturers had loudly complained about is expected to lower the returns by about $40 billion. The deal also will put aside billions to help the IRS chase down tax dodgers. Experts predict a hefty return on investment: The $80 billion added to the IRS budget is expected to bring in $203 billion in taxes. The Internal Revenue Service headquarters in Washington. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images) Finally, the deal would reportedly add a new 1% excise tax on stock buybacks. That provision, another late addition to gain Sinema's support, will reportedly bring in $73 billion to the U.S. Treasury. Removed from the deal was a plan to lessen the so-called “carried interest loophole,” which wealthy money managers can use to pay lower taxes on their capital gains. Some figures, including the investor Kevin O'Leary, contend that things like the new minimum corporate tax could make the U.S. less competitive. “That’s not a good move because you want to keep our economy competitive," he told Yahoo Finance, But from the perspective of Democrats in Washington, the overall tax effort will "begin to restore fairness to the tax code," as Biden put it recently. He and others note that the minimum tax would target the biggest companies in America, including the 55 members of the Fortune 500 that paid no federal income tax in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Over 230 renouned economists disagree .... it will do exactly the opposite ... it taxes middle and lower class Americans and will exacerbate inflation ..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 59 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Over 230 renouned economists disagree .... it will do exactly the opposite ... it taxes middle and lower class Americans and will exacerbate inflation ..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 still rings true today! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 “Projected outcomes” being passed off as facts….OK libtard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olduy Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Why are we subsidizing EV If they are so great people will buy them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Olduy said: Why are we subsidizing EV If they are so great people will buy them Price. A Model S Tesla starts at nearly $97,000 (range est: 375 miles) https://www.tesla.com/models/design#overview The cheapest on this list is the Nissan Leaf at nearly $29,000 https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g40605495/cheapest-electric-cars/ The "range" varies widely on these vehicles too. From 100 miles (Mazda MX-30—$34,695) to 275 miles (Volkswagen ID.4—$42,525). So you'd need charging stations for longer trips, too. And the time to charge, and a charging space available to charge, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/06/analysis-latest-version-of-senate-democrats-reconciliation-bill-raises-taxes-on-small-businesses/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Fact and libnuts are often mutually exclusive....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sportsfanatic1 said: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/06/analysis-latest-version-of-senate-democrats-reconciliation-bill-raises-taxes-on-small-businesses/ And guess who those businesses will be passing the increased costs on to? ..... How the dimturds can claim this is only going to be paid for by people making over $400 K with a straight face is laughable ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Monte1076 said: Price. A Model S Tesla starts at nearly $97,000 (range est: 375 miles) https://www.tesla.com/models/design#overview The cheapest on this list is the Nissan Leaf at nearly $29,000 https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g40605495/cheapest-electric-cars/ The "range" varies widely on these vehicles too. From 100 miles (Mazda MX-30—$34,695) to 275 miles (Volkswagen ID.4—$42,525). So you'd need charging stations for longer trips, too. And the time to charge, and a charging space available to charge, as well. So a road trip to Colorado would take 4 days to get there….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I work with several people that own Tesla’s and they love them…they are great for commuting to work and taking trips around town…but one guy wanted to take a trip to Florida in his and it was a nightmare trying to find charging stations when he needed one that wasn’t being used…and who wants to be charging at 2am if you’re trying to drive at night….your a sitting duck to a robber… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/graham-says-inflation-reduction-act-make-everything-worse#&_intcmp=hp1bt1_3,hp1bt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Sportsfanatic1 said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/graham-says-inflation-reduction-act-make-everything-worse#&_intcmp=hp1bt1_3,hp1bt Yeah, Lindsey Graham and Fox News are both pristine and pure sources of info, for sure. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said: Yeah, Lindsey Graham and Fox News are both pristine and pure sources of info, for sure. Don’t shoot the messenger…. Just because you know they’re right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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