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White teachers must be first to be first laid off under Minneapolis agreement


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This is what is called pandering to a group. Liberals will do anything to keep power, no different than conservatives. There are no such things as moderates anymore. If this isn't reverse discrimination, I don't know what is. This is why unions are no longer needed in this country. 

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1 minute ago, Monte1076 said:

I'm sure our friend Barry would have something to say about this if he weren't in Smoaky Jail...

Probably something about how it's being misinterpreted, or something.

Shouldn't he be out of the smoaky pokie by now?

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21 hours ago, BlahBlah said:

I don't care who signed what with whom.  It is illegal.  

From my understanding most unions have their members vote for the policies that they enact.  I'm sure that many of the white teachers voted for this to be enacted.  I checked the demographics of Minneapolis and 68 % of the population is white, but I couldn't find the stat on the teachers.  I did for the students, and I was surprised based on the total population.  Only 36.9 % of students are white, and possibly why the union went this route.  The reasoning being they wanted teachers that the children could relate to.  It didn't matter to me what color a teacher was, as long as they were a good teacher.  Minneapolis Public School District - U.S. News Education (usnews.com)

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If the title of this story said….Black,Hispanic,Asian,Alphabet soup group,etc would be layed-off first…..this thread would already be 10 pages long…..I’m surprised they didn’t single out Straight White Males as the first too be let go….

Marxist/Socialist henchmen doing what they do best….separate groups and pit them against each other

 

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On 8/16/2022 at 5:08 PM, DaveTV1 said:

From my understanding most unions have their members vote for the policies that they enact.  I'm sure that many of the white teachers voted for this to be enacted.  I checked the demographics of Minneapolis and 68 % of the population is white, but I couldn't find the stat on the teachers.  I did for the students, and I was surprised based on the total population.  Only 36.9 % of students are white, and possibly why the union went this route.  The reasoning being they wanted teachers that the children could relate to.  It didn't matter to me what color a teacher was, as long as they were a good teacher.  Minneapolis Public School District - U.S. News Education (usnews.com)

I’ve been required to be a union member for my job for the last 30 years….union politics is the same as DC…empire building so you can have layers of people below you too protect your job is what it’s all about….

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11 hours ago, gamewatcher63 said:

I’ve been required to be a union member for my job for the last 30 years….union politics is the same as DC…empire building so you can have layers of people below you too protect your job is what it’s all about….

I know how evil unions can be by watching movies based on Union leaders.  They wield a lot of power, but much of it is given by the union members.  About the only way to get rid of a Union President is to kill them off see Jimmy Hoffa and Danny Greene.  There are so many "woke" teachers in the world today that I have no doubt that the vote was legit.  

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12 hours ago, DaveTV1 said:

I know how evil unions can be by watching movies based on Union leaders.  They wield a lot of power, but much of it is given by the union members.  About the only way to get rid of a Union President is to kill them off see Jimmy Hoffa and Danny Greene.  There are so many "woke" teachers in the world today that I have no doubt that the vote was legit.  

I don't think people should be forced to join a union. They should be able to if they choose, but I don't think they should be forced to. I've told this story before.

Several years ago, I worked at a company where they sent myself and two others to a well-known government contractor to do some installations. They were a union shop.

When we arrived on day 1, they couldn't just have the person that met us take us over to where the necessary equipment was so we could get access to it (we needed a cart to put our tools on, and a couple of other things).

No. Per their union rules, they had to wait for a "union employee" to come over and unlock it for us. So we basically had to stand around for 20 minutes or so waiting on that employee to get there to unlock things for us.

I heard another (anecdotal) story of an airline, where a plane had to return to the tarmac because a door or internal window or something was open, and it needed to be closed, and union rules wouldn't allow anyone on the plane to actually close it. So they had to go back to the terminal and get a union employee to go onto the aircraft and close it.

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I worked at General Motors in Sheveport for a year back in the late 90s as a production foreman .... Out of the 55 hourly paid assembly line workers I supervised, I had two that refused to join the UAW, they weren't required to, but the union made ther life miserable for the 15+ years they had worked there .... there were only a handful of non union workers in the plant .... they started out as summer hires and had gotten hired permanently  ....

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29 minutes ago, Monte1076 said:

What happened?

They basically had the same rights and benefits, but they were treated badly by their coworkers ... lots of little things that added up ... nobody helped them when they needed it, they got dirty tricks played on them sometimes, they were treated as outcasts or traitors ... they came to work every day and did their jobs and never were a problem ... unlike their UAW counterparts ....

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1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said:

An attack on unions as a general principle, rather than specifically targeting corruption, is just carrying water for the oligarchy of corporations in this country. 

What's your opinion on this particular article, though? Shouldn't the "low performers" (regardless of race) be the ones laid off first?

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33 minutes ago, Monte1076 said:

What's your opinion on this particular article, though? Shouldn't the "low performers" (regardless of race) be the ones laid off first?

Well, first, I think this is more about seniority than job performance, and while I recognize that they are trying to be responsive to their demographic, I think that decisions based on race as a first criteria shouldn't play a part in the decision. Keeping veterans is a sound practice. Bigger picture is that I don't know of many districts in Texas that don't have severe shortages where laying off teachers would even be on the table. 

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27 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

Well, first, I think this is more about seniority than job performance, and while I recognize that they are trying to be responsive to their demographic, I think that decisions based on race as a first criteria shouldn't play a part in the decision. Keeping veterans is a sound practice. Bigger picture is that I don't know of many districts in Texas that don't have severe shortages where laying off teachers would even be on the table. 

So your answer is, it isn't going to happen so it doesn't matter that someone actually wrote this and the union agreed to it?  Nice dodge.

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29 minutes ago, JBizzle said:

So your answer is, it isn't going to happen so it doesn't matter that someone actually wrote this and the union agreed to it?  Nice dodge.

My point is that a very isolated event, that hasn't even occurred, shouldn't be used to broad brush to contradict reality, because it fits the 'poor, poor white people' narrative out there who are so beset upon a daily basis. 

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