marvda1 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 why is the coverage of high school football games so poor in east texas? i can write the two sentence reviews they are doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 New company has taken over Tyler, Longview and Marshall. They have 3 good writers while the other is less than but….yea, it’s been rough. Can’t remember the last time we didn’t have a feature article heading into the season opener, but we barely got a blurb from Thomas on Friday. Horrendous coverage. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Can’t speak for the other papers in East Texas…. But the coverage in the Longview news journal and Marshall Messenger was atrocious for Longview, PT, and Marshall We went from 2-3 BIG pregame articles a week and 2 postgame writeups to a pregame capsule and 1 post game article. What annoys me even more is that I’m paying for the E edition and the coverage is worse than ever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tiger03lb Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Local tv/news covered the WR/Koff game. When she was talking about the highlights, you could tell she didn't see or know the score of the game and was talking up WR until she mentioned the score. Man that was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsjunkiee Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Do they no longer do the Friday Night Prime Time Players or did I just miss it this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacwagons Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 East Texas Mainstays that covered east texas football left the business in the last few weeks. Nac's paper lost their long time sports writer and we grabbed someone from the Marshall paper. Kaleb with KTRE took a job at Lufkin ISD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: Can’t speak for the other papers in East Texas…. But the coverage in the Longview news journal and Marshall Messenger was atrocious for Longview, PT, and Marshall We went from 2-3 BIG pregame articles a week and 2 postgame writeups to a pregame capsule and 1 post game article. What annoys me even more is that I’m paying for the E edition and the coverage is worse than ever It blows my mind that newspapers want to charge the same rate for online E editions as they do for the printed version ... they could reduce their online only rates 50% and more than double their subscriptions .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: It blows my mind that newspapers want to charge the same rate for online E editions as they do for the printed version ... they could reduce their online only rates 50% and more than double their subscriptions .... If the poor coverage continues...I'll be cancelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordertown Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 The loss of advertising & classified revenue has killed the newspaper industry and they are struggling to survive. 30 years ago, the papers covered Varsity, JV, Frosh, Middle school, Little League, Bowling, etc… . The papers were looking for the human interest stories to sell ads. 60 years ago, neighborhood shoppers took most of the classified ad revenue. Newspapers were able to survive with advertising inserts. The advent of the web based business now advertises direct to the consumer. The major city papers are struggling right along with your local papers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: Can’t speak for the other papers in East Texas…. But the coverage in the Longview news journal and Marshall Messenger was atrocious for Longview, PT, and Marshall We went from 2-3 BIG pregame articles a week and 2 postgame writeups to a pregame capsule and 1 post game article. What annoys me even more is that I’m paying for the E edition and the coverage is worse than ever Spring Hill got multiple articles in the LNJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclove05 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, PantherNation2015 said: Spring Hill got multiple articles in the LNJ. That’s because winning football games at SH is rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36gut Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, bordertown said: The loss of advertising & classified revenue has killed the newspaper industry and they are struggling to survive. 30 years ago, the papers covered Varsity, JV, Frosh, Middle school, Little League, Bowling, etc… . The papers were looking for the human interest stories to sell ads. 60 years ago, neighborhood shoppers took most of the classified ad revenue. Newspapers were able to survive with advertising inserts. The advent of the web based business now advertises direct to the consumer. The major city papers are struggling right along with your local papers. THIS! You left out Craig's List, which took over classified ads more than 20 years ago. I am in this business. It is only because I am a lifelong pessimist who has tried to save and invest everything I ever made that I am not bankrupt and living under a bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, bordertown said: The loss of advertising & classified revenue has killed the newspaper industry and they are struggling to survive. 30 years ago, the papers covered Varsity, JV, Frosh, Middle school, Little League, Bowling, etc… . The papers were looking for the human interest stories to sell ads. 60 years ago, neighborhood shoppers took most of the classified ad revenue. Newspapers were able to survive with advertising inserts. The advent of the web based business now advertises direct to the consumer. The major city papers are struggling right along with your local papers. I get that....and I agree it's an issue. But it's aggravating to me that I'm paying MORE for the e-ditions to get a small fraction of the coverage we use to get. Get the SID's to wright the articles. Or journalism students. Or local college students. Anything but a freaking pregame capsule and a blurb write up on the "weekend edition" to wrap it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 46 minutes ago, bordertown said: The loss of advertising & classified revenue has killed the newspaper industry and they are struggling to survive. 30 years ago, the papers covered Varsity, JV, Frosh, Middle school, Little League, Bowling, etc… . The papers were looking for the human interest stories to sell ads. 60 years ago, neighborhood shoppers took most of the classified ad revenue. Newspapers were able to survive with advertising inserts. The advent of the web based business now advertises direct to the consumer. The major city papers are struggling right along with your local papers. Co-sign on all this, and another consequence is that most papers can only afford to pay young reporters with minimal experience. The result is a loss of various intangibles that can only come with experience. Thus, by the time you get a seasoned, skilled reporter—who finally has it all figured out—he's suddenly become more valuable than the paper can afford. Which is why so many of us eventually jump ship to marketing/PR or other better-paying and less demanding industries once we decide that we want a nicer house, car, and to actually see our families. In days of yore a local print journalist could raise a family on newspaper reporter's salary. That time is gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordertown Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, 36gut said: THIS! You left out Craig's List, which took over classified ads more than 20 years ago. I am in this business. It is only because I am a lifelong pessimist who has tried to save and invest everything I ever made that I am not bankrupt and living under a bridge. Actually I think Craig’s List and Facebook killed the Shoppers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordertown Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: I get that....and I agree it's an issue. But it's aggravating to me that I'm paying MORE for the e-ditions to get a small fraction of the coverage we use to get. Get the SID's to wright the articles. Or journalism students. Or local college students. Anything but a freaking pregame capsule and a blurb write up on the "weekend edition" to wrap it up. What I have seen is the local papers will cover the Big 3 varsity sports. If the other programs want coverage, the coaches or a parent need to submit to the paper. But volunteerism is dying …. that is why we appreciate what you do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, bordertown said: What I have seen is the local papers will cover the Big 3 varsity sports. If the other programs want coverage, the coaches or a parent need to submit to the paper. But volunteerism is dying …. that is why we appreciate what you do. VERY WELCOME I do it because I love it....and also because I think the kids deserve it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordertown Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 My father was a newspaper man in communities similar to Longview & Texarkana. I have had a front seat to their demise. He was a newspaper man to his death. I had breakfast with him at an independent living community. As we were leaving the dining area, there was a gentleman reading the community copy of the paper. My father muttered “cheapskate” when he saw him as he didn’t have his own subscription. Don’t be a cheapskate! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveragain Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Ironically, I signed up for a subscription to the Tyler paper about three weeks before they announced they would be cutting back on the number of papers delivered to my house. I don't care about the online edition...heck, I have the entire internet at my beck and call if I want to search electronically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Bclove05 said: That’s because winning football games at SH is rare Whatever it takes BC! Whatever it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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