PelvisPresley Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, Valhalla said: I would rather have that than two or three loss teams winning the title. so then the best team doesn't win... I guess if you lose a basketball game, you shouldn't be eligible either? don't say, "well it's football, so it's better"...if you don't get the strongest team in the end then it's not a true champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelvisPresley Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Valhalla said: 7-5 teams should not be in a playoff. hey, the Aggies want a shot...they've already got a championship trophy...I mean they bought it and gave it to Dumbo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, PelvisPresley said: so then the best team doesn't win... I guess if you lose a basketball game, you shouldn't be eligible either? don't say, "well it's football, so it's better"...if you don't get the strongest team in the end then it's not a true champion. Agree with this point, shouldn't we want the "BEST" team at the end of the year to be champion, not the team that won in September, but might have lost 1 game at the end of the year, didn't even make their conference championship, and makes a 4 team playoff because 16 people get sit and decide who makes it. This could happen this year. Michigan or Ohio State could lose to each other, not play in conference championship and still have a chance to make the playoffs. As could Georgia, Tennessee, & Alabama....Tennessee beats Georgia, Alabama beats Tennessee in Championship game--3 SEC teams left with 1 lose--who doesn't go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Valhalla said: I would rather have that than two or three loss teams winning the title. Heck no, not me! I'll take the most top 25 match ups I can get, especially late in the season! Would you also prefer only the top 4 ranked high school football teams be allowed in the playoffs? What about NFL, only 4 there also? Edited October 26, 2022 by trashyhound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, trashyhound said: Heck no, not me! I'll take the most top 25 match ups I can get, especially late in the season! Would you also prefer only the top 4 ranked high school football teams be allowed in the playoffs? What about NFL, only 4 there also? High school - I would be good with just the district champions again. NFL - Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Valhalla said: High school - I would be good with just the district champions again. NFL - Yes I can't fathom anyone wanting less playoff football. So if Carthage is hands down the best in the state but because of injuries to 2 QBs in a freak game they lose to Van or somebody. Then you're perfectly OK with them missing the playoffs? A 3 game NFL playoff, oh what fun Edited October 26, 2022 by trashyhound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Valhalla said: High school - I would be good with just the district champions again. NFL - Yes HIgh School--Agree 1000000000% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, DannyZuco said: HIgh School--Agree 1000000000% Why? I can't see the harm in taking multiple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, trashyhound said: I can't fathom anyone wanting less playoff football. So if Carthage is hands down the best in the state but because of injuries to 2 QBs in a freak game they lose to Van or somebody. Then you're perfectly OK with them missing the playoffs? A 3 game NFL playoff, oh what fun I don’t enjoy it when a mediocre team all year has 3 good weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, trashyhound said: I can't fathom anyone wanting less playoff football. So if Carthage is hands down the best in the state but because of injuries to 2 QBs in a freak game they lose to Van or somebody. Then you're perfectly OK with them missing the playoffs? A 3 game NFL playoff, oh what fun That’s how it is sometime. Football is a sport about overcoming adversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, trashyhound said: Why? I can't see the harm in taking multiple My gosh, in our state we have had an 0-10 team make the playoffs. Too many teams in the playoffs for high school football---I thought the reason for high schools was for education...and I am a former coach....4 teams WAY too many. 3 teams TOO many. 2 Teams really too many, but could compromise on that. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/11/texas-high-school-winless-playoffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: My gosh, in our state we have had an 0-10 team make the playoffs. Too many teams in the playoffs for high school football---I thought the reason for high schools was for education...and I am a former coach....4 teams WAY too many. 3 teams TOO many. 2 Teams really too many, but could compromise on that. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/11/texas-high-school-winless-playoffs That was a technicality but ok, how did that team do in round 2? So what was hurt? A bunch of kids on a terrible team got to go get their head kicked in in a "playoff" game. What a tragedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Valhalla said: I don’t enjoy it when a mediocre team all year has 3 good weeks. Who says their last 3 weeks were the outlier? What if the 3 or 4 they lost was the outlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Valhalla said: That’s how it is sometime. Football is a sport about overcoming adversity. Overcoming adversity like beating all comers in the playoffs, including ones on a hot steak with a worse record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 17 hours ago, Valhalla said: High school - I would be good with just the district champions again. NFL - Yes I enjoyed the top 2 in each district days for HS. I think where we struggle with college and pro is that A) yes, we want the best teams winning the championship, but B) we also want football to be played more with meaningful games. I love the bowls as much as anyone else, but only 3 games each year actually matter. Expand the playoff 2 more weeks, we are in football heaven as college fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 I agree we currently have too many HS teams that make the playoffs, but going from how many teams make it now, to only the district champ is simply going from one extreme to another. Why is it so difficult to find the happy medium? I think the Top 2 teams from each district would be perfect. As the point that was made above, what if you have key players out with injury? What if what makes the best team in any given year, their ability to throw the football all over the field, and they have a game with an absolute downpour? Saying, 'it's about overcoming adversity', it's not always that simple. You can't say you want the best teams only, when the best team gets left out based on the outcome of a single game, especially if that outcome was due to something out of their control. It works the same in college football. Choosing who you 'THINK' are the best teams is very subjective and opinionated. That's the problem with limiting the number of qualifying teams to only a few. But again, that doesn't mean you have to go to the opposite extreme and add too many either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 51 minutes ago, Lobo97 said: I agree we currently have too many HS teams that make the playoffs, but going from how many teams make it now, to only the district champ is simply going from one extreme to another. Why is it so difficult to find the happy medium? I think the Top 2 teams from each district would be perfect. If I remember correctly, I think HS baseball does this. Or maybe its top 3. But I think it works great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelvisPresley Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Valhalla said: That’s how it is sometime. Football is a sport about overcoming adversity. OMG, give me a freaking break...all sports it's about that, but using college basketball as an example...think about those teams like Villanova that have won or if a Georgetown or even Gonzaga now...those teams would have been left out totally. In HS, yeah...heck just go to a 4 team playoff...top ranked team from each region. Or put 10 principals in a room to vote for the 4...wow, that would be great!!! Edited October 27, 2022 by PelvisPresley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, PelvisPresley said: OMG, give me a freaking break...all sports it's about that, but using college basketball as an example...think about those teams like Villanova that have won or if a Georgetown or even Gonzaga now...those teams would have been left out totally. In HS, yeah...heck just go to a 4 team playoff...top ranked team from each region. Or put 10 principals in a room to vote for the 4...wow, that would be great!!! Yeah like how nobody watched whole regular season until the playoff. Using basketball only hurts your arguement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) So this scenerio keeps coming up on sports shows. If these schools don't lose to anyone else. Georgia loses to Tennessee Alabama Beats Tennessee in Championship Game Ohio State loses to Michigan Michigan Loses Big 10 Championship Clemson remains undefeated Oregon Wins out--only lose to Georgia at beginning of year Oklahoma State Beats Undefeated TCU in Championship Game. Who makes the playoffs from this group of teams. Me: Clemson Gets #1 seed--Won their Conference Alabama-#2 seed--Won their conference Oregon-#3--Won their Conference Oklahoma State #4--Won their Conference Edited October 28, 2022 by DannyZuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelvisPresley Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 43 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: So this scenerio keeps coming up on sports shows. If these schools don't lose to anyone else. Georgia loses to Tennessee Alabama Beats Tennessee in Championship Game Ohio State loses to Michigan Michigan Loses Big 10 Championship Clemson remains undefeated Oregon Wins out--only lose to Georgia at beginning of year Oklahoma State Beats Undefeated TCU in Championship Game. Who makes the playoffs from this group of teams. Me: Clemson Gets #1 seed--Won their Conference Alabama-#2 seed--Won their conference Oregon-#3--Won their Conference Oklahoma State #4--Won their Conference I think you get 1 and 2 right in this scenario. USC very well could run the rest of their schedule and then beat Oregon for the PAC...ending with 1 loss. Oklahoma State would probably just wipe out a BIG12 bid with a win over TCU...even with both only having 1 loss. I'd enjoy the Cowboys though. USC going back and beating Oregon, could do the same for the PAC, allowing for a Tennessee or Georgia to sneak in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelvisPresley Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Valhalla said: Yeah like how nobody watched whole regular season until the playoff. Using basketball only hurts your arguement. people don't pay attention to early basketball because their schedule is big enough they play throw away games to get the scrubs playing time (keep those donors happy) and blow some folks out, getting your team together. the schedule size will stay the same for football...I feel you'd have even better early matchups with a larger playoff for the same reasons...you can play your players, run your playing style and get it together against the best competition. I think it may still lead to a further split division in D1...about 1/2 up and about 1/2 down in division. Edited October 28, 2022 by PelvisPresley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Playoff committee says Bama > TCU… SEC SEC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1. Tennessee2. Ohio State3. Georgia4. Clemson5. Michigan6. Alabama7. TCU8. Oregon9. Southern California10. LSU11. Ole Miss12. UCLA13. Kansas State14. Utah15. Penn State16. Illinois17. North Carolina18. Oklahoma State19. Tulane20. Syracuse21. Wake Forest22. NC State23. Oregon State24. Texas25. UCF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I like Liberty over UCF for the last spot. I think I’m going to lash out at Twitter for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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