Racer55 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sportsjunkiee said: What are the main things you think White Oak has to offer that would attract a great football coach? Well money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sportsjunkiee said: What did he want? You don't think he was just using White Oak as a stepping stone to a bigger job? I don’t know the specifics of what he wanted. I was told he wanted a raise and Gilbert told him no. I believe it wasn’t a month later he left for flower mound marcus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclove05 Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 Curious what does WO pay their AD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Bclove05 said: Curious what does WO pay their AD? Last I saw I believe 78-80k in 2017. Edited October 25, 2022 by Racer55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Anyone know of other schools having a girls athletic director and a regular athletic director? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tiger03lb Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Racer55 said: Anyone know of other schools having a girls athletic director and a regular athletic director? Malakoff does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Racer55 said: Anyone know of other schools having a girls athletic director and a regular athletic director? Tatum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle8 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Racer55 said: Anyone know of other schools having a girls athletic director and a regular athletic director? Coach Leven Barker handles all the girls sports in Tatum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclove05 Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Racer55 said: Last I saw I believe 78-80k in 2017. Can’t remember what year I checked but Sharp was low to mid 90’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Racer55 said: Anyone know of other schools having a girls athletic director and a regular athletic director? A more common thing lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleTeam Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Jefferson does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerumDixit Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 hours ago, BlackBeard said: I remember back in 2012-2017 that WO was a powerhouse in the district. Replace Hughes Springs, Redwater, New Boston, Harmony, and Quitman with Gladewater, Tatum, and Atlanta and life becomes a little different for you. White Oak was one of the biggest 3AD1 schools in the area from 2013-2017. Now they are the one of the smaller schools in their own district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerumDixit Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Since the 80s White Oak is a .500 football program. They had a little uptick from 2008-2017, but as soon as they got back to their more traditional opponents they are magically right back where they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerumDixit Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) When White Oak has been the biggest school they have more success, but when they are not they have been a .500 program. 2008/2009 record (17-5) White Oak Sabine Harleton Harmony Winona EF Union Grove New Diana 2010/2011 (record 10-11) New Diana Sabine Harmony Tatum Jefferson White Oak 2012/2013 record (22-5) Mineola Harmony Tatum White Oak Sabine Troup 2014/2015 record (17-7) Mineola Sabine Harmony Quitman Jefferson White Oak 2016/2017 record ( 17-6) Hughes Springs Redwater Sabine Jefferson New Boston White Oak 2018/2019 record (4-16) West Rusk Gladewater Tatum Winnsboro Mineola Sabine White Oak 2020/2021 record (10-8) White Oak Sabine Gladewater Tatum Atlanta Jefferson New Boston Edited October 26, 2022 by VerumDixit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerumDixit Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Racer55 said: Big question in White Oak right now is will we continue to hire friends, family, and buddies and continue being below avg in football, or will we do what’s necessary to build a quality football program here? Would be a big step in the right direction to do what PNG did by hiring Todd dodge as a consultant to find a great football coach. Is the community going to make the commitment to having a success football program even if it steps on the toes of the basketball or baseball program? You have to be all in. You can’t have a school of specialists and be a good small school football program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Racer55 said: Big question in White Oak right now is will we continue to hire friends, family, and buddies and continue being below avg in football, or will we do what’s necessary to build a quality football program here? Would be a big step in the right direction to do what PNG did by hiring Todd dodge as a consultant to find a great football coach. I think you just described a lot of high school athletic programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 hours ago, VerumDixit said: Replace Hughes Springs, Redwater, New Boston, Harmony, and Quitman with Gladewater, Tatum, and Atlanta and life becomes a little different for you. White Oak was one of the biggest 3AD1 schools in the area from 2013-2017. Now they are the one of the smaller schools in their own district. Replacing schools with other schools in a certain time period is twisting things. We don’t know if we would’ve done well against them during that time or not. Would we have competed against GW, Tatum, and Atlanta during those times? Idk I don’t think we would’ve been blown out like now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 hours ago, VerumDixit said: Since the 80s White Oak is a .500 football program. They had a little uptick from 2008-2017, but as soon as they got back to their more traditional opponents they are magically right back where they were. We have 30 district championships, certainly in the top % of schools in this area. So sue me for wanting to get back to our original roots of good Rouchneck football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 hours ago, VerumDixit said: When White Oak has been the biggest school they have more success, but when they are not they have been a .500 program. 2008/2009 record (17-5) White Oak Sabine Harleton Harmony Winona EF Union Grove New Diana 2010/2011 (record 10-11) New Diana Sabine Harmony Tatum Jefferson White Oak 2012/2013 record (22-5) Mineola Harmony Tatum White Oak Sabine Troup 2014/2015 record (17-7) Mineola Sabine Harmony Quitman Jefferson White Oak 2016/2017 record ( 17-6) Hughes Springs Redwater Sabine Jefferson New Boston White Oak 2018/2019 record (4-16) West Rusk Gladewater Tatum Winnsboro Mineola Sabine White Oak 2020/2021 record (10-8) White Oak Sabine Gladewater Tatum Atlanta Jefferson New Boston So you’re saying we should just accept getting blown out on the regular now because of enrollment? Lol ok. Guess we won’t ever beat Tatum again then. We should just quit football because we don’t have 20 or 40 more kids. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIMRIGGINS Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Racer55 said: We have 30 district championships, certainly in the top % of schools in this area. So sue me for wanting to get back to our original roots of good Rouchneck football. I think WO would be a good smash mouth football team again like they use to be. I know the spread is better and the kids like that more but if youre going to be a spread team year in and year out you need to be very run heavy as the base offense because you wont have a true QB every year. The slot t is an offense that you can be productive in year in and year out regardless of athletes Burk knows the slot t. He taught it to the James Bowie coaching staff 10 years ago and they have built their brand on that slot t....They will win district this year. Of course is small division but they are competitive every year because they are good at what they do. White Oak could be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 hours ago, VerumDixit said: Is the community going to make the commitment to having a success football program even if it steps on the toes of the basketball or baseball program? You have to be all in. You can’t have a school of specialists and be a good small school football program. Will the community be all in? I’m not sure really. I’m not saying we should be winning state in football, but since 2017 there has been a significant and lasting decline in the football program. We want to compete every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, BlackBeard said: I think you just described a lot of high school athletic programs. Yeah good ole boy culture at work. Sometimes we go through cycles of it and then cycles of time to drain the swamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 In the last 5 years we’ve only made the playoffs once that is if we don’t make it this year, when they’re taking 4 teams now. We have never been down like that before as far as I know. We need to do something and this isn’t it. I hear at every game now “oh we gotta score here, we gotta get the goose egg off the score board or the kids will give up.” I don’t like that mentality at all. We’re on a downward trend and I don’t see it stopping anytime soon. Look at the undercassmans scores. Seems like we’re getting swept or nearly swept every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclove05 Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 55 minutes ago, Racer55 said: In the last 5 years we’ve only made the playoffs once that is if we don’t make it this year, when they’re taking 4 teams now. We have never been down like that before as far as I know. We need to do something and this isn’t it. I hear at every game now “oh we gotta score here, we gotta get the goose egg off the score board or the kids will give up.” I don’t like that mentality at all. We’re on a downward trend and I don’t see it stopping anytime soon. Look at the undercassmans scores. Seems like we’re getting swept or nearly swept every week. It’s hard to believe how far y’all have fallen in football. When you’re competitive in every other sport it’s not an athlete problem. Of course I’m from Sabine so it don’t hurt my feelings to much seeing y’all on a downwards spiral. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 @Bclove05 so what do you think of this week? Think it’ll be close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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