JBizzle Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, mightyeagle said: Has anyone asked the kids. The kids would probaly love to play a playoff game.Even if it meant losing by 50,they got to play in a playoff game. Some of them would prolly rather be fishing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PostSurfer Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, mightyeagle said: Has anyone asked the kids. The kids would probaly love to play a playoff game.Even if it meant losing by 50,they got to play in a playoff game. Ask the kid that was injured in a meaningless game, who will miss the rest of the playoffs or impact that teams chances going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, JBizzle said: Some of them would prolly rather be fishing... That's why they never get any playing time..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Some facilities are not great in the lower levels. It is better for all to play at a neutral site with a better set up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOleBoy73 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, trashyhound said: Wouldn't tanking get you a tougher 1st round opponent? Yes but I think some teams do it looking ahead at the 2nd round. If a district is usually much weaker (like 9-4A and 10-4A Division One) the 3rd seed is honestly a better road than the 2nd seed. I think most coaches are too competitive to do that, but it would take the temptation away! For example - If Lindale can beat Vidor in the 1st round then they'll get the 1st place team from D12 (Houston ISD) or the 4th place team from D11 (Possibly Stafford or Bay City I think?) Chapel Hill / Kilgore Loser will be 2nd place in our district. They will get El Campo (1st Place D12) in the 2nd round. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, PostSurfer said: Ask the kid that was injured in a meaningless game, who will miss the rest of the playoffs or impact that teams chances going forward. Ask the kid that was injured in a walkthrough day before game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, GoodOleBoy73 said: Yes but I think some teams do it looking ahead at the 2nd round. If a district is usually much weaker (like 9-4A and 10-4A Division One) the 3rd seed is honestly a better road than the 2nd seed. I think most coaches are too competitive to do that, but it would take the temptation away! For example - If Lindale can beat Vidor in the 1st round then they'll get the 1st place team from D12 (Houston ISD) or the 4th place team from D11 (Possibly Stafford or Bay City I think?) Chapel Hill / Kilgore Loser will be 2nd place in our district. They will get El Campo (1st Place D12) in the 2nd round. Gotcha. I agree more with Barry Switzer...."just win baby!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobstopper77 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 11 hours ago, Lion1996 said: Yes I know small schools have too. I just think you should get something for winning district You do, you get to play the 4th place team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketgrad06 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) So I have always been for the 3 team playoffs like we used to have. I did the math a for a few years and I can understand the argument for 4th seeds being in. As for the past 3-4 years that I have done the math, 4th place seeds have advanced 12-20% of the time from the first round. So I can see the argument for it. Of course it truly comes down to money. I am in agreement on the first place team getting home field in the first round. This gives the championship a little more meaning. I also like playoffs being neutral field so I am torn. There is arguments to be made on both sides. I am just love HS football honestly. Edited October 31, 2022 by jacketgrad06 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIMRIGGINS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Coaches don't want to paint an extra week! Neutral turf games! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everide2016 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 50 minutes ago, Valhalla said: Some facilities are not great in the lower levels. It is better for all to play at a neutral site with a better set up. I think some of the smaller schools would rather get that extra game of gate revenue instead of play a neutral site? I don't know much about it, but I think the hosting facility/school gets to keep the ticket sales and also gets the concession revenues. That can be some nice extra money for a small school, so they'd rather keep it at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOleBoy73 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 A lot of this depends on who you ask. If you ask the teams that are always winning or competing for a district championship...they are probably in favor of the higher seed hosting. If you ask the teams that are usually fighting just to get into the playoffs...they probably prefer a neutral site so that their kids can experience something different and so they don't have to drive all the way over to the other school for a whipping. It's all about perspective really. There is no right or wrong way to handle it! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoEagles Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Valhalla said: Some facilities are not great in the lower levels. It is better for all to play at a neutral site with a better set up. yep, those kids like to play in bigger, nicer stadiums, it's a big deal to the kids gets em hyped up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, LetsGoEagles said: yep, those kids like to play in bigger, nicer stadiums, it's a big deal to the kids gets em hyped up And for fans there's better places to eat...... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoEagles Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, GoodOleBoy73 said: Yes but I think some teams do it looking ahead at the 2nd round. If a district is usually much weaker (like 9-4A and 10-4A Division One) the 3rd seed is honestly a better road than the 2nd seed. I think most coaches are too competitive to do that, but it would take the temptation away! For example - If Lindale can beat Vidor in the 1st round then they'll get the 1st place team from D12 (Houston ISD) or the 4th place team from D11 (Possibly Stafford or Bay City I think?) Chapel Hill / Kilgore Loser will be 2nd place in our district. They will get El Campo (1st Place D12) in the 2nd round. Well said. I was just explaining this to some folks at church the other day. Lindale actually may have an "easier path" to the 3rd round than our runner up/2nd place team (CHill or Kilgore) because a 2nd round meeting with EL Campo awaits (as we found out last year). Last year in the first round, Columbia, the D12 4th place team beat North Forest, the D11 1st place team 65-18.............. WOW. So, if we can get past Vidor, which WILL BE TOUGH, then we will face either Bay City, Brazosport, Navasota or Stafford from D12 or Houston Washington from D11, who will be 10-0 after Friday. I'm not saying it's an easy game, just saying it's easier than the 2nd place team 9-4A's route because of El Campo. That's all. Every single team I have listed can beat Lindale if they don't take them seriously and play their tails off every snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA18 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Or you could go back to how it was WAAYY back in the day when only DC's made playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 This post was recognized by RETIREDFAN1! HearEmaGrowlin was awarded the badge 'Great Content' and 5 points. 17 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: And for fans there's better places to eat...... DUDE, 100% correct! This has always been a byproduct of being a Carthage Bulldog fan. Following the Dawgs throughout the playoffs over the years has been so great. This is no joke, it’s given us more time with our families just in travel time to and from the games, but also over dinners before the games. Following the Bulldogs has forced us to find new places to eat near the stadiums they’ve played at, spending the night in New Caney.. Following those Bulldogs around for sixteen years has been a way of life for us every fall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Gobstopper77 said: You do, you get to play the 4th place team. Bingo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, jacketgrad06 said: So I have always been for the 3 team playoffs like we used to have. I did the math a for a few years and I can understand the argument for 4th seeds being in. As for the past 3-4 years that I have done the math, 4th place seeds have advanced 12-20% of the time from the first round. So I can see the argument for it. Of course it truly comes down to money. I am in agreement on the first place team getting home field in the first round. This gives the championship a little more meaning. I also like playoffs being neutral field so I am torn. There is arguments to be made on both sides. I am just love HS football honestly. In some tough districts, some of the 3rd and 4th place teams are stronger than some of the 1st and 2nd place teams from weaker districts .... that's been true for our dstrict a few times over the years .... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: In some tough districts, some of the 3rd and 4th place teams are stronger than some of the 1st and 2nd place teams from weaker districts .... that's been true for our dstrict a few times over the years .... Sometime teams have players that were injured make it back in time to play in playoffs. Happened to us once,finished fourt,played DC in round three and made it to regional championship. Wierd things happen in hs football sometimes..js. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheGrowl Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Of course I agree. We (Franklin) had to flip with Groesbeck, a 4th place team at the time. It should be rare that a District Champ should have to go on the road against a 4th place team. Although I can tell you in 2020, our District had the last 4 teams standing in the Region 3 rounds deep. So in that case, you could make an argument for it I guess. But again, it's a rarity. Edited October 31, 2022 by FeelTheGrowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, upullinmychain said: Sometime teams have players that were injured make it back in time to play in playoffs. Happened to us once,finished fourt,played DC in round three and made it to regional championship. Wierd things happen in hs football sometimes..js. That happened to Garrison a couple of times a few years back ... we were the 4th seed and knocked off a 1st seed and went three rounds deep ... Edited October 31, 2022 by KirtFalcon yo mama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAlumnus Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 District winner home team but neutral site. Most 3A and under stadiums won't hold a playoff crowd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, GTAlumnus said: District winner home team but neutral site. Most 3A and under stadiums won't hold a playoff crowd. That's a good compromise........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, GTAlumnus said: District winner home team but neutral site. Most 3A and under stadiums won't hold a playoff crowd. In fact, in round 1 top 2 seeds home team but at neutral sites, UNLESS they agree to flip for home/home...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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