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The GOP's myth of an 'open border'


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7 hours ago, BarryLaverty said:

 It's just a specious copout. 

Like you're doing by dodging?

And is that the same type of rhetoric that got Steve Scalise shot? The same rhetoric where people were threatening Supreme Court justices and protesting outside their houses?

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10 hours ago, BarryLaverty said:

Again, ignoring the fact that violence has been encouraged. It's just a specious copout. 

Who's encouraging violence?

Maxine Waters?

And again, you started the topic with the "myth" of open borders. What causes one of the many to commit crimes is irrelevant! The fact is he, like millions of others, is here illegally because we have a border that is not secure.

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The op-ep Larry posted is riddled with half truths and outright lies .... any intellectually honest person can see our southern border is anything but closed .... we can debate the pros and cons of why forever ... and neither side will agree ... we can debate the obvious need for  immigration reform until we are blue in the face .... No amount of comprehensive immigration reform will work unless we first secure the border ..... This isn't an immigration problem, this is an invasion by illegal aliens .... it's a national security issue that's bigger than our border patrol of less than 20K agents can handle .... our border patrol is under manned, out gunned and outmatched with equipment, weapons and technology .... they are further hamsrung by insane regulations, poor management and leadership ....

I have laid out before several things that would resolve the border problem ... #1 Move the US Border Patrol from under The Dept of Homeland Security to The Dept of Defense .... #2 Esablish four military installations along the southern border from California to Texas to man and patrol the entire southern border with modern military equipment, manpower and technology .... the primary border patrol misson would be under the DOD, where it belongs .... #3 After 1 and 2 are accomplished, then take up comprehensive immigration reform ..... THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE, NOT AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE .....

Our open border is not a myth ... It’s a fact ....

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53 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said:

The op-ep Larry posted is riddled with half truths and outright lies .... any intellectually honest person can see our southern border is anything but closed .... we can debate the pros and cons of why forever ... and neither side will agree ... we can debate the obvious need for  immigration reform until we are blue in the face .... No amount of comprehensive immigration reform will work unless we first secure the border ..... This isn't an immigration problem, this is an invasion by illegal aliens .... it's a national security issue that's bigger than our border patrol of less than 20K agents can handle .... our border patrol is under manned, out gunned and outmatched with equipment, weapons and technology .... they are further hamsrung by insane regulations, poor management and leadership ....

I have laid out before several things that would resolve the border problem ... #1 Move the US Border Patrol from under The Dept of Homeland Security to The Dept of Defense .... #2 Esablish four military installations along the southern border from California to Texas to man and patrol the entire southern border with modern military equipment, manpower and technology .... the primary border patrol misson would be under the DOD, where it belongs .... #3 After 1 and 2 are accomplished, then take up comprehensive immigration reform ..... THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE, NOT AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE .....

Our open border is not a myth ... It’s a fact ....

100% Brandon can deny anything but the truth is the truth.

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What the brain dead liberals fail to realize is criminals and illegal aliens 👽 don't obey laws .... 

Libtards call for gun control and more gun 🔫  laws .... criminals don't obey gun laws, so more gun laws won't stop them from committing gun related crimes ...

Same way with illegal aliens 👽  ....  you can pass all the comprehensive immigration laws you want .... illegal border crossers will still illegally cross the border ... drug smugglers will still bring their drugs across the border, human traffickers will still smuggle people across the border .... Hello Bueller!, Bueller!, they don't obey laws .... the only thing that will stop these things is securing the border .... without securing the border first, immigration reform is meaningless ....

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7 hours ago, KirtFalcon said:

The op-ep Larry posted is riddled with half truths and outright lies .... any intellectually honest person can see our southern border is anything but closed .... we can debate the pros and cons of why forever ... and neither side will agree ... we can debate the obvious need for  immigration reform until we are blue in the face .... No amount of comprehensive immigration reform will work unless we first secure the border ..... This isn't an immigration problem, this is an invasion by illegal aliens .... it's a national security issue that's bigger than our border patrol of less than 20K agents can handle .... our border patrol is under manned, out gunned and outmatched with equipment, weapons and technology .... they are further hamsrung by insane regulations, poor management and leadership ....

I have laid out before several things that would resolve the border problem ... #1 Move the US Border Patrol from under The Dept of Homeland Security to The Dept of Defense .... #2 Esablish four military installations along the southern border from California to Texas to man and patrol the entire southern border with modern military equipment, manpower and technology .... the primary border patrol misson would be under the DOD, where it belongs .... #3 After 1 and 2 are accomplished, then take up comprehensive immigration reform ..... THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE, NOT AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE .....

Our open border is not a myth ... It’s a fact ....

 

3 hours ago, KirtFalcon said:

What the brain dead liberals fail to realize is criminals and illegal aliens 👽 don't obey laws .... 

Libtards call for gun control and more gun 🔫  laws .... criminals don't obey gun laws, so more gun laws won't stop them from committing gun related crimes ...

Same way with illegal aliens 👽  ....  you can pass all the comprehensive immigration laws you want .... illegal border crossers will still illegally cross the border ... drug smugglers will still bring their drugs across the border, human traffickers will still smuggle people across the border .... Hello Bueller!, Bueller!, they don't obey laws .... the only thing that will stop these things is securing the border .... without securing the border first, immigration reform is meaningless ....

Rant that means and proves you never truly want any realistic solution. Who would you make into the boogeymen then? 

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1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said:

 

Rant that means and proves you never truly want any realistic solution. Who would you make into the boogeymen then? 

The boogeyman, you say?  The boogeyman is anyone who doesn't support securing the border .... that goes from Plugs 🔌 all the way down to clowns 🤡  like you, Larry .... comprende?.... Securing the border is the mandatory first step to any immigration reform ....

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What we need is for everyone to watch Sicario.

Then if only half of it is reality we’d all quickly decide to actually secure the border and not take in any additional immigrants who just show up without going through the full legal process.

We also need to treat the cartels as terrorist organizations.

If today we had the same common sense mindset as we did in the 1940’s these problems wouldn’t be problems for long.  We would put a stop to it immediately.

Think the WWII generation would allow other countries to our south to allow these illegal aliens to even get to the Rio Grande?

Think the Greatest Generation would allow Mexico to prop up cartels whose business is to pump drugs into the USA?

Think the Greatest Generation would allow the coyotes to smuggle illegals across the Rio Grande?

Think the Greatest Generation wouldn’t have a wall today?

If we had any backbone we’d kill all these evil people, hold Mexico accountable and force them to get their crap together so they’d quit passively harming our citizens.

I mean, there’s little possibility we don’t know who the cartel leaders are and where they are.  Go kill them all from the heads of each cartel down to all their middle managers, and totally shut down the border.  This madness has to stop.

Peace through power.

Enough is enough.

Burying our heads in the sand and claiming there isn’t a very serious problem at our border that’s killing Americans via drugs and / or physical attacks by illegal aliens is the biggest reason we’re in this situation.

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