Monte1076 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Ruled unconstitutional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Saw this coming. To all of the 18-21 year old that voted blue for this reason only. You got played. Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, osup116 said: Saw this coming. To all of the 18-21 year old that voted blue for this reason only. You got played. Hahahaha I recall that when Biden signed the EO, he said (paraprhasing) "It's probably unconstitutional, but I'm going to do it anyway." Can you imagine the uproar in the with the Democrats and in the media if a Republican outright said something like that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 You braindead Gen Z punks just learned a valuable lesson ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Yep, but it's not over. https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3733388-biden-senior-adviser-says-were-going-to-prevail-after-judge-strikes-down-student-loan-relief/ Biden senior adviser says ‘we’re going to prevail’ after judge strikes down student loan relief BY OLAFIMIHAN OSHIN - 11/13/22 3:30 PM ET SHARETWEET Anita Dunn, a senior adviser to President Biden, said on Sunday that the administration is going to win the legal battle over student debt relief after a federal judge struck down the administration’s initiative earlier this week. Texas district judge Mark Pittman on Friday struck down the Biden administration’s student loan forgiveness initiative, saying that the proposed program is “an unconstitutional exercise of Congress’s legislative power.” During Dunn’s appearance on CBS’s “Face The Nation,” moderator Margaret Brennan noted that millions of young voters cast ballots for Democrats in last week’s midterm elections due to the expectation of their loans being forgiven. Dunn said the administration fully expected to prevail, as the law is on its side. “And make no mistake about it … President Biden made this commitment to people in America. It’s not just young people. It’s also people of every age,” Dunn told Brennan. “We believe we’re going to prevail in court. And at that point, we will swiftly move to make sure that the over 26 million people at this point who have — whose information this administration has — that we’ll move swiftly for loan forgiveness,” Dunn added. The lawsuit against the Biden administration was filed last month by conservative advocacy group the Job Creators Network Foundation, on behalf of one borrower who is ineligible for the relief program and another who is not eligible for the full $20,000. The Biden administration’s student debt relief initiative would include $10,000 in loan forgiveness for borrowers who make less than $125,000 annually and up to $20,00 for Pell Grant recipients. TAGS ANITA DUNN ANITA DUNN CBS NEWS JOE BIDEN MARGARET BR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBizzle Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Democrats ran with this as a key part of their platform for the last two cycles and got plenty of votes because of it....and he doesn't even have the power to do it. They elected Joe to do something he has no authority to do...but it worked to get the votes they wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Byeden woulda been proud of all the things this one has gotten done in last 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Yep, but it's not over. https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3733388-biden-senior-adviser-says-were-going-to-prevail-after-judge-strikes-down-student-loan-relief/ "It's probably unconstitutional, but I'm going to do it anyway" doesn't sound like having the law on their side. Does it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Yes Larry it's over.......if it keeps going up the ladder, SCOTUS will strike it down........5 to 4 or possibly 6 to 3.......thank you President Trump ......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: It's probably unconstitutional, but I'm going to do it anyway Think you are conflating that with evictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Think you are conflating that with evictions. That's a possibility. But there is this, from Time magazine: Quote What we know: President Biden himself once cast doubt on whether he could unilaterally forgive billions of dollars worth of loans. “I don’t think I have the authority to do it by signing with a pen,” he said in February 2021. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, of California, agreed with him. “People think the president of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness,” she said in July 2021. “He does not. He can postpone. He can delay. But he does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress.” https://time.com/6208871/biden-student-loans-criticism-fact-check/ Edited November 14, 2022 by Monte1076 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Yep, but it's not over. https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3733388-biden-senior-adviser-says-were-going-to-prevail-after-judge-strikes-down-student-loan-relief/ Biden senior adviser says ‘we’re going to prevail’ after judge strikes down student loan relief BY OLAFIMIHAN OSHIN - 11/13/22 3:30 PM ET SHARETWEET Anita Dunn, a senior adviser to President Biden, said on Sunday that the administration is going to win the legal battle over student debt relief after a federal judge struck down the administration’s initiative earlier this week. Texas district judge Mark Pittman on Friday struck down the Biden administration’s student loan forgiveness initiative, saying that the proposed program is “an unconstitutional exercise of Congress’s legislative power.” During Dunn’s appearance on CBS’s “Face The Nation,” moderator Margaret Brennan noted that millions of young voters cast ballots for Democrats in last week’s midterm elections due to the expectation of their loans being forgiven. Dunn said the administration fully expected to prevail, as the law is on its side. “And make no mistake about it … President Biden made this commitment to people in America. It’s not just young people. It’s also people of every age,” Dunn told Brennan. “We believe we’re going to prevail in court. And at that point, we will swiftly move to make sure that the over 26 million people at this point who have — whose information this administration has — that we’ll move swiftly for loan forgiveness,” Dunn added. The lawsuit against the Biden administration was filed last month by conservative advocacy group the Job Creators Network Foundation, on behalf of one borrower who is ineligible for the relief program and another who is not eligible for the full $20,000. The Biden administration’s student debt relief initiative would include $10,000 in loan forgiveness for borrowers who make less than $125,000 annually and up to $20,00 for Pell Grant recipients. TAGS ANITA DUNN ANITA DUNN CBS NEWS JOE BIDEN MARGARET BR Let us hope not.....this is unconstitutional and these people should have to pay back their loans....they knew what they were getting when they took the money....it was their own fault, not the taxpayers that they wanted to take money out for schooling.... Student loans should not come from the government at all....it should be done through the private sector.....if they don't pay back their loans and/or forgiven of their loans, then that is just a waste of taxpayer money----something our government already does with greatness. Borrow the money--pay it back...it's a choice not have to borrow the money.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Went to college mostly 9 hours a semester. Took 6 years. Paid as I went, working 2 and 3 jobs. Taught & Coached 27 years. Retired. Suddenly I had an unconstitutional College loan to pay for. The power of the purse belongs to Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlah Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 So loan forgiveness for college students = illegal The PP loan given to corporations during Covid shutdown is forgiven = legal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Power of the purse belongs solely to the Legislature. https://history.house.gov/institution/origins-development/power-of-the-purse/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Both parties have been corrupt. Maybe folks really ought to pay attention to what President Trump has been saying for past 6 years. Establishment Republicans are ALL against President Trump. Pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Turn OFF any MSM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, BlahBlah said: So loan forgiveness for college students = illegal The PP loan given to corporations during Covid shutdown is forgiven = legal ? Answer should be simple. Was PP forgiveness something passed by Congress? Or pen & phone EO "legislation?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Mel2011 said: @BlahBlah, these don't matter though! They got a R by their name... not 1 "conservative" on here bringing this up.. that's why I don't care if Biden forgives these college students debt There's a DIFFERENCE, though. The PPP was done via Congress, and had the conditions for loan forgiveness built in. Biden used an EO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Really do not think he will announce a 2024 run. Who knows? My guess is maybe a 2023 run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: There's a DIFFERENCE, though. The PPP was done via Congress, and had the conditions for loan forgiveness built in. Biden used an EO. That's what I figured. More fake news debunked. Thanks Monte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 46 minutes ago, Mel2011 said: Glad you see where the spending comes from... Yes, and all spending, per the Constitution, is supposed to originate in the House, not the president via EO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monte1076 Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Mel2011 said: Surely you not saying only D's do this? You'd be take serious when you equally criticize, til then I'll leave this convo If you haven't seen me criticize Republicans too, you haven't been on this forum long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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