JTFAN99 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 hours ago, MattStepp said: As far as i know he will be back ok. Talk in Tyler is that both are out the door. i was little shocked when I heard that about Willis, but I guess we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwolf Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 TISD seriously needs to go after Buck James at Bryant…dude just won 5th straight 7A title in Arkansas…played Longview close last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, JTFAN99 said: ok. Talk in Tyler is that both are out the door. i was little shocked when I heard that about Willis, but I guess we will see. I think thats just talk...I mean things can always change but I spoke to Coach Willis today and if he's out its news to him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, kingwolf said: TISD seriously needs to go after Buck James at Bryant…dude just won 5th straight 7A title in Arkansas…played Longview close last year Well we see who they get. I’m sure that a lot of names were dropped in the hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprodigy Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 12 hours ago, JTFAN99 said: Coaching can make a big difference. Saw it when Thomas Brooks replaced Ratliff. So I guess we will see with the next coach. I think the talent is there to be better than what they were. Not expecting state championships, but they should have been a playoff team. Again, I don't think Forney, McKinney North, and etc are 30 to 40 points better than JT. Watch JT subvarsity teams over the past few yrs blow out teams like North and Sherman and then a couple yrs later get beat at the varsity level. I think the early morning practices don't help them and I think that has a big effect on things going on in the program. Also, in the past they had very experienced O-line coaches. The past few yrs that hasn't been the case. Also what is the weight program like? I am not just talking about are they lifting I am asking do they have a good program! Lineman are built!! Outside looking in if the line isn't getting where it needs to be it would make one think the weight program isn't up to par.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKS21 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 18 hours ago, VonG said: I hope so. I doubt they would drop the pay. I meant do they have to pay each the same Coaching stipend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Legacy gets paid a little more because it's 6a. Which is stupid to me because JT more times than not has a bigger fan support than Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumpisDump Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 9:31 AM, mike7890 said: Beckville guy would not be able to connect with TISD kids Uh yeah that's what I was thinking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumpisDump Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 I don't think JT would look to a small school guy. Tyler period. Small school wouldn't relate to any school in Tyler for that matter. Too political I think. But I could see a city coach coming in with a decent resume. I think JT is going to go away from the hometown guy (someone local) after Holmes and branch out to the city. It's just a matter of who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
903popparose90 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 7 hours ago, VonG said: Legacy gets paid a little more because it's 6a. Which is stupid to me because JT more times than not has a bigger fan support than Lee. Bigger fan support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, 903TYLERLEGACYREDRAIDERS said: Bigger fan support Do you want to elaborate on that comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujo2016 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 12:48 PM, Destry said: Possibly. Different culture. Now this is very interesting to me. The word “Culture” wasn’t mentioned but change on the campus has been talked about higher up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 How long with will they give applicants before TISD starts the interviewing process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 8:34 PM, kingwolf said: TISD seriously needs to go after Buck James at Bryant…dude just won 5th straight 7A title in Arkansas…played Longview close last year That dude is a fantastic coach. Definitely hope he doesn't come to Tyler. But also would be interesting to see how the dynamics would work there. His situation in Bryant is so vastly different to what he would be taking over in Tyler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 16 hours ago, LoboFan07 said: That dude is a fantastic coach. Definitely hope he doesn't come to Tyler. But also would be interesting to see how the dynamics would work there. His situation in Bryant is so vastly different to what he would be taking over in Tyler. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collincountyfootball1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, cujoforlife said: How so? Well I think importantly, Bryant is a one town team. The resources they’ve poured into that program is awesome. The entire community there has really bought into what he’s doing there at Bryant, I believe in a way that would be really tough to duplicate at Tyler. He even tells a story about how after their first state championship in 2018, every gas station in town dropped the gas prices to $2.12 to match their Be 212 slogan. I think also though, if we are being completely honest. He’s a great coach but sometimes not every place is a great fit. Tyler ISD from I’ve heard from posters on here comes with a lot of politics and you’ll always have to deal with Legacy and zoning stuff. He doesn’t have to deal with that stuff at Bryant, everyone has completely bought into what he’s preaching and he’s got a really good thing going on up there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Politics is everywhere. It's no different than any other place. The main problem with Tyler is that there are two many 🍽 at the table and not enough food to feed everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 A few questions that I know is? Would the new continue the Cujo persona in the playoffs? Will he try to change the color scheme to meet a true royal blue and not the dark blue that we are use to seeing. Like Ratliff did when he was at JT and the Logo. I think it was a lions face if I’m not mistaken. I do think that he was the only one that did that, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 56 minutes ago, collincountyfootball1 said: Well I think importantly, Bryant is a one town team. The resources they’ve poured into that program is awesome. The entire community there has really bought into what he’s doing there at Bryant, I believe in a way that would be really tough to duplicate at Tyler. He even tells a story about how after their first state championship in 2018, every gas station in town dropped the gas prices to $2.12 to match their Be 212 slogan. I think also though, if we are being completely honest. He’s a great coach but sometimes not every place is a great fit. Tyler ISD from I’ve heard from posters on here comes with a lot of politics and you’ll always have to deal with Legacy and zoning stuff. He doesn’t have to deal with that stuff at Bryant, everyone has completely bought into what he’s preaching and he’s got a really good thing going on up there. That would be a lot of Coaches that are coming from a one horse town to a city with multiple schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collincountyfootball1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, VonG said: Politics is everywhere. It's no different than any other place. The main problem with Tyler is that there are two many 🍽 at the table and not enough food to feed everyone. Coming from a coaches kid, I know all too well about the politics. However, some places are much messier and more complex than others. In town like Bryant where he’s brought them more success than they could ever have imagined. His word is the gospel there and the community follows suit. Like you said a bunch of people at the table in Tyler. It all just plays into why it’s vastly different coaching job than where he’s at right now. Plus, he’s not a great a fit being an Arkansas guy all his life. I think Tyler should look to a younger coordinator maybe in DFW area to bring some energy back to the program. Hiring an older recycled coach doesn’t really bring the bump I think this program needs. Off the top of my mind, the SOC DC Kyle Ward would be a great fit at Tyler. Would he make the move out East is the question though, he’s a Oak Cliff guy. Played at Kimball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Tyler is not even looking at the coach from Arkansas. Someone just suggested that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collincountyfootball1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I understand that, someone just asked what the difference was between his job in Arkansas compared to the Tyler job. I’ve already said I believe if I’m Tyler I would go after the SOC DC hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I guarantee the pay is different. That says alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collincountyfootball1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2021 shows his salary was right at $100K so it would be an increase here in good ole tejas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) There are names being mentioned on this forum, but not sure if they make sense. No reason for Bryant coach to come here unless he has ties to this area. He is in a much better situation and pay is good. Also, DFW or any large metro area coaches will probably not stay either. Again, I say we look east to Louisiana. Very good coaches there, and the pay would be 2 to 3 times the salary they currently make. So that would be more incentive to stick around. Besides, it has worked out for a few schools in this area. Edited December 8, 2022 by JTFAN99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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