MattStepp Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Goatboy said: I call it a plight for fans who cannot physically get to the games and paid their money expecting to receive a professional quality product in return. Instead they get a 9 year old girl manning a cell phone. I honestly don't care about the ton of other games I may get to watch. I paid to watch my team. That was not a fair exchange for the money that we paid. I sure don't call that a luxury. This is another common misperception....you aren't dealing with professionals doing this...these are people with day jobs who do this on the side, some as a hobby...the reason a teenager ran the camera is because the cameraperson just decided to not show up.... Its a total crap shoot dealing with subcontractors...Just like in real life if you hire a subcontractor for a job...some are amazing, some arent...and even the amazing ones have life circumstances that derail things last minute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Out all the Lobos stadiums. We all know Lobo West is their favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFootball Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, MattStepp said: This is another common misperception....you aren't dealing with professionals doing this...these are people with day jobs who do this on the side, some as a hobby...the reason a teenager ran the camera is because the cameraperson just decided to not show up.... Its a total crap shoot dealing with subcontractors...Just like in real life if you hire a subcontractor for a job...some are amazing, some arent...and even the amazing ones have life circumstances that derail things last minute If they're taking money for it, they're professionals by definition. If they're not, then that at least explains the subpar quality and makes me think even less of the UIL taking volunteers and making money on their work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, JohnnyFootball said: If they're taking money for it, they're professionals by definition. If they're not, then that at least explains the subpar quality and makes me think even less of the UIL taking volunteers and making money on their work. My definition of professional is doing it as a full time job..might not be the true definition of professional but its how I view these guys...I'm not a professional journalist for instance...I'm a contractor...same with the guys doing these games...they get paid but it's definitely not their career Edited November 22, 2022 by MattStepp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFootball Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, MattStepp said: My definition of professional is doing it as a full time job..might not be the true definition of professional but its how I view these guys...I'm not a professional journalist for instance...I'm a contractor...same with the guys doing these games...they get paid but it's definitely not their career Everything makes more sense then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, JohnnyFootball said: Everything makes more sense then lol I think people vastly overrate how much money is in TXHSFB....there are very few people who can make a full-time living doing TXHSFB from a media perspecitve...its mostly a labor of love for most or a side income Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stankylegg Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, MattStepp said: I think people vastly overrate how much money is in TXHSFB....there are very few people who can make a full-time living doing TXHSFB from a media perspecitve...its mostly a labor of love for most or a side income That’s is a very true statement. I can’t think of a single media guy that isn’t doing other levels/sports or another industry altogether to supplement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lobooldschool Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 hours ago, AledoAlumni said: You can tell the difference in Aledo lmao. That must be a Longview problem!! Lmao. That’s funny right there!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, MrBuddyGarrity said: I was thinking SFA. We’ve only played there twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 hours ago, LufkinPack said: What is the abe Martin record over the last 20 years? 4-7, but 3-0 in last 3 visits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBuddyGarrity Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, LoboFan07 said: We’ve only played there twice. Oh, thought it was way more times than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBuddyGarrity Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 What's the record at Rose in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, MrBuddyGarrity said: What's the record at Rose in the playoffs? https://www.lobohistory.com/misc/playoffs/stadiums/tmfrose.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LufkinPack Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, MrBuddyGarrity said: Oh, thought it was way more times than that. Lufkin has played SFA a lot. But, we’ve had a few heartbreakers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LufkinPack Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, LoboFan07 said: 4-7, but 3-0 in last 3 visits. Thanks! I was genuinely curious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboBooster73 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 If a subcontractor is used and doesn’t show up as contracted to do, then that subcontractor should be removed from the list of approved contractors. Have to do proper due diligence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFootball Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, LoboBooster73 said: If a subcontractor is used and doesn’t show up as contracted to do, then that subcontractor should be removed from the list of approved contractors. Have to do proper due diligence. Apparently not. It’s apparently a common occurrence. But it’s okay. It isn’t their full time gig. Never mind that you paid for it. They’re not FULL TIME employees so you have to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 Beat PAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 9 hours ago, LoboBooster73 said: If a subcontractor is used and doesn’t show up as contracted to do, then that subcontractor should be removed from the list of approved contractors. Have to do proper due diligence. And I'm fairly certain the camera guy was removed from the approved UIL list.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, JohnnyFootball said: Apparently not. It’s apparently a common occurrence. But it’s okay. It isn’t their full time gig. Never mind that you paid for it. They’re not FULL TIME employees so you have to deal with it. It actually is common from what I understand....its happended at least once in every round of the playoffs......pretty sure they dont get used again but that doesn't do anything for the game that they were supposed to do Typically by Rd 3 there's a lot fewer games so the folks who have been doing it a while and consistently end up getting the vast majority of the games...TexanLive, Texas Sports Productions in San Antonio, Rio Sports Live in the RGV, Texas Panhandle Sports are some that come to mind right away Edited November 23, 2022 by MattStepp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 One heads up for Longview folks who watch games online...games that are on TexanLive I believe also show up on NFHS..however the stream on NFHS ends up being about 30-45 seconds delayed and sometimes will buffer more...some South Oak Cliff people gave me a heads up on this over the weekend and I confirmed with a few others...I am sure there's some technical reason why thats the case but wanted to be transparent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, MattStepp said: One heads up for Longview folks who watch games online...games that are on TexanLive I believe also show up on NFHS..however the stream on NFHS ends up being about 30-45 seconds delayed and sometimes will buffer more...some South Oak Cliff people gave me a heads up on this over the weekend and I confirmed with a few others...I am sure there's some technical reason why thats the case but wanted to be transparent Can confirm. The SOC game was unwatchable for me. Just keep a loading circle on it almost the entire time (after seeing two touchdowns). That was the first time I had seen that all season. Had been watching TexanLive through NFHS all season (and last) and yea. Just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtee2 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, LoboFan07 said: Can confirm. The SOC game was unwatchable for me. Just keep a loading circle on it almost the entire time (after seeing two touchdowns). That was the first time I had seen that all season. Had been watching TexanLive through NFHS all season (and last) and yea. Just bad. So instead of NFHS we need to go to TexanLive to watch games from now on...is that what you are saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, gtee2 said: So instead of NFHS we need to go to TexanLive to watch games from now on...is that what you are saying? Think of it like this... NFHS has more games, less consistent quality TexanLive fewer games (we have 20 this week), but more consistent quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 So used car vs new card..? That beauty rite thar don't use a drop of oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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