Youngcoach123 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 might get me in trouble but well worth it. I bet several of you on here have pics just like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blesseddaily Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Actually the pic looks like the actual shooter!! A left wing wack job who can't figure out what bathroom to go to...and then you have the MSM reactions when they get exposed for their lies...again. Pathetic. "CNN anchor at loss for words after learning that gay club mass shooting suspect identifies as non-binary CNN anchor at loss for words after learning that gay club mass shooting suspect identifies as non-binary | Watch (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 7:03 PM, EnjoyLife said: True...if your "good guy with a gun" was properly trained with his weapon and how to react in a situation like this ...or maybe even more people would have ended up shot when he started popping off rounds in a crowded, dark nightclub that was in a state of chaos with people running in every direction. Enjoy, I promise you there are way more people out there who are trained to handle weapons of all kinds and themselves. And they’re (guessing) 95% of the time Republican leaning. Good guys with a gun are much more common than people realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 11 hours ago, PepeSilvia said: might get me in trouble but well worth it. I bet several of you on here have pics just like this. IMG_2677.MOV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 7:03 PM, EnjoyLife said: True...if your "good guy with a gun" was properly trained with his weapon and how to react in a situation like this ...or maybe even more people would have ended up shot when he started popping off rounds in a crowded, dark nightclub that was in a state of chaos with people running in every direction. I am always intrigued by the properly trained comments. Do you have firearms training? Do you know what properly trained is? The 22 yr old that clipped the mass shooter from 40 yards had no formal training. Was he properly trained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 6:17 AM, Youngcoach123 said: I am always intrigued by the properly trained comments. Do you have firearms training? Do you know what properly trained is? The 22 yr old that clipped the mass shooter from 40 yards had no formal training. Was he properly trained? Let me ho question by question.... No, I do not have firearms training. I do not know if there is actually a definition of "properly trained" or not...but I would define it as the kind of training received by law enforcement and the military...and that involves both being skilled with your weapon and remaining under control during chaos. If your 22 year old stopped a shooter by making a 40 yard shot then I say "Good job". Was it skill or was it luck? Could he do it again? Or next time would he start spraying bullets...miss his target...and leave several more people shot? I have no idea............ Btw...just because I don't have the gun fetish some folks seem to have does not mean that i am anti-gun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, EnjoyLife said: Let me ho question by question.... No, I do not have firearms training. I do not know if there is actually a definition of "properly trained" or not...but I would define it as the kind of training received by law enforcement and the military...and that involves both being skilled with your weapon and remaining under control during chaos. If your 22 year old stopped a shooter by making a 40 yard shot then I say "Good job". Was it skill or was it luck? Could he do it again? Or next time would he start spraying bullets...miss his target...and leave several more people shot? I have no idea............ Btw...just because I don't have the gun fetish some folks seem to have does not mean that i am anti-gun. The 22 yr old had no training like military or police and hit the subject 8/10 times from 40 yards. 75% of military/cops personnel could not accomplish that. He was skilled and calm under chaos. So what do you do about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 The Eli Dicken drill is now a thing because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: The 22 yr old had no training like military or police and hit the subject 8/10 times from 40 yards. 75% of military/cops personnel could not accomplish that. He was skilled and calm under chaos. So what do you do about that? That's awesome. He sounds like an exceptional young man. I'm lousy with a handgun. I could not hit a bull elephant 8/10 times from 40 yards with a handgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/24/2022 at 6:58 AM, HearEmaGrowlin said: IMG_2677.MOV I don’t think that does what you think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, PepeSilvia said: I don’t think that does what you think it does. I know it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 9 hours ago, EnjoyLife said: That's awesome. He sounds like an exceptional young man. I'm lousy with a handgun. I could not hit a bull elephant 8/10 times from 40 yards with a handgun. First time I did the drill I got 3. It takes practice. Everyone could be able to do it with practice. Everyone should be encourage to own and carry a firearm and be fully operational with it. Without gov training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 https://www.foxnews.com/us/handgun-owners-carrying-daily-us-doubled-4-years-self-protection-cited-main-reason-study Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: https://www.foxnews.com/us/handgun-owners-carrying-daily-us-doubled-4-years-self-protection-cited-main-reason-study Its a shame that our society has devolved to the point that so many people feel the need to arm themselves for their own safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said: Its a shame that our society has devolved to the point that so many people feel the need to arm themselves for their own safety. Curious question- When these liberal cities want to de-fund the police what is a person supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sportsfanatic1 said: Curious question- When these liberal cities want to de-fund the police what is a person supposed to do? Exactly. "Defund the police" is about the dumbest idea I have ever heard. I do think we can do better in addressing the root cause of some of our crime...but in the meantime we need law enforcement to have the resources they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 I have lived for almost 60 years not far from the Metroplex, without seeing the need for a gun for protection, though I don't begrudge someone feeling they might need to have one. I do think stoking fear and paranoia are political tools to drive concerns more often than not. And I, like most in the the movement to hold police accountable for their actions, while allocating more resources to mental health professionals within their ranks, with some demilitarization in their approach, don't want to defund them. It's a blanket statement that belies the need for complex solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 A few examples to what happened in these Liberal cities. And let's not forget Chicago. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 18 hours ago, Sportsfanatic1 said: A few examples to what happened in these Liberal cities. And let's not forget Chicago. smh I'm just curious as to where you found these statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, PepeSilvia said: I'm just curious as to where you found these statistics. Internet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: I'm just curious as to where you found these statistics. Yeah, me, too, out of curiosity. Not citing the source for info can be get you in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: I'm just curious as to where you found these statistics. 5 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Yeah, me, too, out of curiosity. Not citing the source for info can be get you in trouble. Stats aside, is it yalls belief violent crime hasn’t went up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: Stats aside, is it yalls belief violent crime hasn’t went up? Overall violent crime in America has stayed basically the same in all areas or declined over the last decade, with murder spiking in 2021 in some places. That's based on factual data. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, BarryLaverty said: Overall violent crime in America has stayed basically the same in all areas or declined over the last decade, with murder spiking in 2021 in some places. That's based on factual data. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/ Ok, they didn’t defund the police nation wide Barry. Look at the places where they actually defunded the police. NYC, Minneapolis, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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